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Now this is more like it. Some 4s have begun to enter the affair.

(I was kind of kidding about the Twenty20, although not about not yet having watched any. I can see the appeal, but it hasn't really inspired me yet. And I do quite like one-day really. But test matches shall always be king.)

I understand where you're coming from, but do give it a go. Tuesday's match was awesome, and they are genuinely exciting. It's a completely different game to tests, obviously, but not bad for all that.
 
and they are genuinely exciting.


this is a complete fallacy. There are just as many duff games in 20/20 as there are in one dayers & tests.

Some 20/20 games have close finishes - the vast majority do not - the format of the game is not inherently exciting...
 
Up to 0.61 now. Go England!

Strauss on a strike rate of 6.66 as I speak. I can't recall ever previously seeing that low a strike rate for anybody other than an extreme tailender. Or Geoffry Boycott, of course.

Did you ever have the 'pleasure' of seeing Chris Tavare bat?
 
this is a complete fallacy. There are just as many duff games in 20/20 as there are in one dayers & tests.

Some 20/20 games have close finishes - the vast majority do not - the format of the game is not inherently exciting...



No it's not. It is thrilling stuff. I watch every single Twenty20 game at work and they are at the very least, quite exciting. If the finish isn't close, you are still guaranteed 22 wickets and bucketfuls of boundaries and sixes(unless it's Yorkshire) in a 3 hour period. Those events are all exciting in their own small way.

And that's if the finish isn't close. I'd say that the vast majority DO have close finishes. You'll be hard pushed to watch a Twenty20 match with 20 minutes to go and know which side is going to win.

Cheer up, it's brilliant! :D:D:D
 
dear god @ this thread.


:rolleyes:

away & take your ritalin.

Cheg, today:

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missfran - there is a very real chance 20/20 will ruin test cricket forever. Already the New Zealand England series was disrupted by the IPL - new zealands best players were totally undercooked for the test series - they arrived late & missed the warm up games as they were playing in the IPL.

Now the Sri Lanka test series is underthreat next summer due to a sri lankan player revolt - as its scheduled to start at the same time as the IPL

Test cricket is a far superior form of cricket to the shite slog-a-thon that is 20/20.

Therefore I'm not exactly over joyed that the superior form of the game is being ruined by this Sky Sports invented circus for morons.

It won't be long before player techniques are affected by 20/20 slogging to the extent that they are incapable of playing the longer form of the game.
 
I have to agree. Test cricket is already declining everywhere except England and Australia (and to an extent India). By turning the bowler into an essentially defensive player, limited overs cricket halves the value of the contest for me.
 
While were arguing about 20/20 and test matches, i will always like test matches more, because they're a true test of ability. 20/20 is good for a bit of fun though, just hope it doesn't ruin the test game or i will hate it no matter how exciting it is.
 
I've seen my fair share of boring Twenty20s - Essex Vs Northants, for example - but in any given test there are a fair numbers of passages of play that are exciting. The one they go on about now is Atherton vs Donald, Atherton holding the bating together for England against a lightening fast and very aggressive Donald. Not many runs scored, but it was superb play, pressure being built and relieved, ebbeing and flowing.
 
And Athers not walking when he was out...;)


I agree, though - you can't manufacture real excitement.

That over from Holding to Boycott in 1976 would not have been allowed in a one-dayer.
 
I've seen my fair share of boring Twenty20s - Essex Vs Northants, for example
Granted the last quarter was dull, but you still got Napier knocking it to kingdom come and then a load of wickets tumbling.

I like all forms of the game. Like Jesus would if he were English and not fictional.
 
I've seen my fair share of boring Twenty20s - Essex Vs Northants, for example - but in any given test there are a fair numbers of passages of play that are exciting. The one they go on about now is Atherton vs Donald, Atherton holding the bating together for England against a lightening fast and very aggressive Donald. Not many runs scored, but it was superb play, pressure being built and relieved, ebbeing and flowing.

I don't think it's an accident that your example of exciting cricket involves a bowler attacking. I love the sight of the keeper with four or five slips and a gully alongside him all crouching down as the bowler sprints to the wicket.
 
Granted the last quarter was dull, but you still got Napier knocking it to kingdom come and then a load of wickets tumbling.

I like all forms of the game. Like Jesus would if he were English and not fictional.

I thought it was pretty dull, Essex had the game stitched up from the off.

I did see a really good Twenty20 live a few seasons back, Gloucs against Worcs - went down to the final over with Worcs needing only 5 or so runs, Jon Lewis held his nerve and got the win for Gloucs. I also saw Solanki get a century, think that may have been a different game though (memory dented by beer). Gloucs have been garbage this year, the only Twenty20 I saw they totally collapsed. That's the problem with Twenty20s, once a team's on top there's little time left for the others to claw it back.
 
"Like Jesus would if he were English and not fictional" is a truly classic line and one that I shall endeavour to use today in casual conversation.
 
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