England vs. Pakistan Fourth test

[Nemo]

Forfeit? Bails are off, covers are on.

Very strange events and a sad way to end the series.

 

[Nemo]

David Lloyd on Sky going through the Laws. Sounds like Pakistan will forfeit.

 

[gunneradt]

lets all laugh at Pakistan!!

 

[Nemo]

lets all laugh at Pakistan!!

Not a laugh, but it does seem an odd thing to do given that they were still heavy favourites to win (Botham was saying the same of Sky just as I typed that).

 

[Lock&Light]

lets all laugh at Pakistan!!

You have obviously not got the best interests of cricket in mind. I suspect you have a very different agenda.

 

[david dissadent]

Shoked to find Daryl Hair involved in a controvosy again. (not)

 

[gunneradt]

You have obviously not got the best interests of cricket in mind. I suspect you have a very different agenda.

not at all.

Lets try and remember the last time they cheated - oh yes, last winter. It's like Robben and Drogba diving - it goes against you when you're a bunch of cheats.

 

[mrkikiet]

hold on, if you're accused of something with no particular evidence, no right of reply, why should you just leave it. Particularly something as serious as ball-tampering.

 

[Nemo]

not at all.

Lets try and remember the last time they cheated - oh yes, last winter. It's like Robben and Drogba diving - it goes against you when you're a bunch of cheats.

There's no information yet on the nature of the alleged tampering, nor any evidence of it occurring. It may have, it may not.

 

[Nemo]

Covers coming off now.

 

[mrkikiet]

and we're back on, possibly.
what a shambles.

 

[Nemo]

Pakistan will take the field apparently.

 

[Nemo]

Light's getting bad apparently, so even if they do go out they'll be straight back in again.

 

[Nemo]

Pakistan coming out. No sign of the umpires though. Darrell Hair refusing to stand apparently (unconfirmed).

 

[Nemo]

What a farce.

 

[gunneradt]

looks like 3-0

 

[david dissadent]

Thats whats there saying on 5 live. Anyone knows what happens when the umpire refuses to stand? cant they replace him with the 3rd umpire or something?

 

[Lock&Light]

What a farce.

Indeed.

 

[Nemo]

looks like 3-0

This is going to be a grudge match when England next tour Pakistan.

 

[Nemo]

Thats whats there saying on 5 live. Anyone knows what happens when the umpire refuses to stand? cant they replace him with the 3rd umpire or something?

Fourth umpire. Thing is though that when they drew stumps they effectively awarded England the game according to the Laws.

 

[Shanksy]

This is going to be a grudge match when England next tour Pakistan.

I dont see why, this is an arguement between the umpires and Pakistani players.

 

[gunneradt]

This is going to be a grudge match when England next tour Pakistan.

hopefully there'll be the impasse that occurred after the Gatting series. No country likes playing Pakistan and certainly no-one likes touring there. Pakistan have been caught cheating so many times it's come back to bite them. They do not deserve any sympathy.

 

[Nemo]

I dont see why, this is an arguement between the umpires and Pakistani players.

If England win this test through forfeiture and an umpire refusing to stand, I doubt Pakistan will feel well-disposed towards them next series even though England weren't involved in the decision.

 

[Nemo]

Apparently the fourth umpire has told the players there will be no further play today.

 

[Lock&Light]

Apparently the fourth umpire has told the players there will be no further play today.

But will there be tomorrow?

 

[Nemo]

But will there be tomorrow?

No word on that. Fucking mess.

 

[mrkikiet]

If England win this test through forfeiture and an umpire refusing to stand, I doubt Pakistan will feel well-disposed towards them next series even though England weren't involved in the decision.

head of the PCB was adamant that England and the ECB were not at fault for this and that there was no dispute between the two teams or the two boards. I wouldn't try and suggest anything about future Pakistan attitudes to England.

 

[Nemo]

ICC statement, meetings with everyone about whether play will continue. Useless.

 

[marksims68]

hopefully there'll be the impasse that occurred after the Gatting series. No country likes playing Pakistan and certainly no-one likes touring there. Pakistan have been caught cheating so many times it's come back to bite them. They do not deserve any sympathy.

WELL SAID!!!

I know I dont post much but I feel strongly about this, they have forfeited the match, 3-0 to England.

The Pakistanis should be punished severely for this.

Mark.

 

[Lock&Light]

The Pakistanis should be punished severely for this.

How do you explain the fact that with nearly 30 tv cameras spread around the ground there has, as yet, been no footage found of Pakistani fieldsmen tampering with the ball?