How did soccerballs new US superstar Freddie Adu play then?talk about fuckin hype
Seriously, I've met quite a few americans who do tell me the USA will win the world cup by about 2022, and that adu will be better than maradonna...
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Seriously, I've met quite a few americans who do tell me the USA will win the world cup by about 2022, and that adu will be better than maradonna...
Gingerman
Is a great bunch of lads.....
Maybe they meant Madonna?
internetstalker
Get naked!
what the fuck do americans know about football!
they can't even get the name right
souljacker
innit
How did soccerballs new US superstar Freddie Adu play then?
He was really shit.
kained&able
Here for the football.
Adu still has a chance of making it, the kid is only 19. Remember how much stick joe cole took at that age!
Umm im fairly sure that wasnt as bad as the commentators were making out. Even first half i was fairly happy if for nothing else then the fact we were actually closing people down for once. had fuck all going foward really but everyone was running which was a change.
Bentley and defoe did themselves no favours at all. Defoe needed to bury his decent chance and bentley's performece should mesn that beckham gets to at least 110 caps. Although if capello has decided gerrad on the left(which worked) then joe cole should get a chance going down the right i reckon.
dave
Umm im fairly sure that wasnt as bad as the commentators were making out. Even first half i was fairly happy if for nothing else then the fact we were actually closing people down for once. had fuck all going foward really but everyone was running which was a change.
Bentley and defoe did themselves no favours at all. Defoe needed to bury his decent chance and bentley's performece should mesn that beckham gets to at least 110 caps. Although if capello has decided gerrad on the left(which worked) then joe cole should get a chance going down the right i reckon.
dave
g force
Affects Shatner's Basoon
Beckham is yesterday's man....if he keeps playing england will never advance. Sure he proved once again (as if it was really needed) that he's one of the best dead ball players ever but England need to move on because he won't be at the next World Cup. End of.
Defoe simply isn't good enough - Young, Walcott and Agbonlahor need to be given games now.
The rest of the team seemed okay against really poor opposition.
Defoe simply isn't good enough - Young, Walcott and Agbonlahor need to be given games now.
The rest of the team seemed okay against really poor opposition.
Termite Man
zombie flesh eater
agree with defoe , but bentley didn't really do much worse than beckham did he . I can't really think of what impact beckham had apart from delivering a free kick for the goal .
imposs1904
Thread Killa'
Gerrard and Lampard really can't play in the same team. Within minutes of coming on, Barry totally outshone the substituted Lampard's performance.
I'd love to hate Beckham but he's head and shoulders above anybody else on the right side of midfield.
I'd love to hate Beckham but he's head and shoulders above anybody else on the right side of midfield.
internetstalker
Get naked!
oxymoron
I think this is very likely. And the funny thing is, most Americans won't even notice.
I was watching the star sports stream, I think the commentary was from Sky, and they were saying it was a good performance.
How can it possibly be 'likely'?
They've got 2010, 2014, 2018 and 2022 to do it. Even if they get a lot better, and end up somehow ranked amongst the 5 favourites, it's still a colossal lottery.
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
The Americans have been saying the same since the 70s.
Because they're investing massive amounts of money in it, that's why. Remember they reached the quarter-finals in 2002, only losing 1-0 to Germany.
Yes, in an extremely weak world cup in which most teams grossly underachieved.
Bonfirelight
Crocodile
The US might be a power one day, but i think its unlikely personally.
I doubt they'll ever really take to football like the rest of the world has, and until its played obsessively by kids in the street, and has the infrastructure in place to train kids properly at grass roots level right through to professional terms, it probably never will.
Even if they did take to it, a large population is no guarauntee of a great side. Russia play the game a lot, and they've never produced much on the international stage, same as Mexico, whilst relatively small countries like Holland and Argentina have produced numerous great sides.
I think a population of 10 million will give you more than enough decent players - its just a case of finding and nuturing them.
I doubt they'll ever really take to football like the rest of the world has, and until its played obsessively by kids in the street, and has the infrastructure in place to train kids properly at grass roots level right through to professional terms, it probably never will.
Even if they did take to it, a large population is no guarauntee of a great side. Russia play the game a lot, and they've never produced much on the international stage, same as Mexico, whilst relatively small countries like Holland and Argentina have produced numerous great sides.
I think a population of 10 million will give you more than enough decent players - its just a case of finding and nuturing them.
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
Chelsea directly invested masses of money in buying a world beating team and have yet to win the Champions League.
Indirectly pumping money into a sport guarantees the sum total of fuck all.
g force
Affects Shatner's Basoon
Bonfire - that's true to an extent but I think Mexico will become more of a South American powerhouse on par with Brazil etc for one key reason - it's growing league status. Just look at recent Copa's....Mexican sides have gone from being nowhere to challenging the traditional teams.
The US and China will never be any good unless they get a decent league system - there's signs of that happening in the US but it has to battle with so many other huge sports that it could struggle.
Europe has much developed league systems and as a result training, scouting etc that builds sustained success.
The US and China will never be any good unless they get a decent league system - there's signs of that happening in the US but it has to battle with so many other huge sports that it could struggle.
Europe has much developed league systems and as a result training, scouting etc that builds sustained success.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
I totally agree. I couldn't believe we'd gone back to having Gerrard on the left to accomodate Lampard
What happend when he went off? Gerrard promptly scored down the middle, and his link up play with Rooney was much more effective than anything Lampard did.
Lampard can be a good player (though all too oftennot for England) but it's just bad luck that he happens to be playing at the same time as someone who plays in the same position who is more consistent, more versatile and, in my opinion, simply better.
Lampard should basically be used as (literally) a substitute for Gerrard, when Gerrard is either injured or under-performing. It's very unfortunate for him, but that's the situation as it is.
Other than that I thought the second half wasn't too bad. We started stringing some passes together and looking like we had some notion of how to play on the ground (until Crouch came one
- though I suppose it might work as a 'Plan B' when we're losing/drawing with X minutes to go and just need to pile on the pressure).karrotcake
out mugging grannies
imo the way forward is
foster
brown richards ferdinand witter
hargreves barry
gerrard
ashton young
rooney
problem is we don't have out an out right winger thats good enuf. lennon and right-philips have the pace but just ent consitent or good enuf once they get past. and considering rooney ent exactly prolific the only option is to someone like ashton playing wide but coming inside allot.
foster
brown richards ferdinand witter
hargreves barry
gerrard
ashton young
rooney
problem is we don't have out an out right winger thats good enuf. lennon and right-philips have the pace but just ent consitent or good enuf once they get past. and considering rooney ent exactly prolific the only option is to someone like ashton playing wide but coming inside allot.
Bonfirelight
Crocodile
Maybe, who knows - the further point is, that even if they (the US) have a large population and a strong league structure with successful teams, large amounts of financial rescources and football obsessed youngsters, it's still nothing like a certainty they will regularly do better than 1/4 finals.
i'm looking at you England.
kained&able
Here for the football.
I reckon mexico have a better chance of wiing a world cup in the next decade or so then america.
and cam gerrad may have scored through ther middle but he was playing on the left the whole game.
dave
and cam gerrad may have scored through ther middle but he was playing on the left the whole game.
dave
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
I know, I know, but he still scored down the middle
If he'd played down the middle the whole game he would have scored five!
Although thinking about it he made his run from the left and that was what confused the defense... fuck it, I still say down the middle for him.
How do you plan for that to happen? Are they going to relocate the entire country to South America?
;p
kained&able
Here for the football.
I know, I know, but he still scored down the middle
If he'd played down the middle the whole game he would have scored five!
Although thinking about it he made his run from the left and that was what confused the defense... fuck it, I still say down the middle for him.
Oh i agree its his best position just pointing out you were wrong!
Exactly - as I said to Dwyer above. There are plenty of shit hot teams (Netherlands in 98/2000, Argentina in 2006, Czechs in 2004, etc) who for one reason or another do not do the expected. If they can't, why Dwyer thinks it's likely that they can win the WC within the next 4 tournaments is quite beyond me.
Yes, it's definitely RM/LM (assuming in RM's case that Beckham isn't going to be playing much longer) which are and always have been our problem especially LM. If 433 is a way of avoiding the wings altogether,w e should go for it. We need a formation to suit the players we have available.
