Donna Ferentes
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However, Portugal's side is more weakened by injuries and suspensions than England's is. I'd make England favourites to win.
England v Portugal
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zed said:
In major tournament knockout games against any of the big sides (i.e. previous WC winners plus Netherlands, Portugal and Spain) I'd have to agree, as since 1966 we've only won one of these, and that was dubious (the spain game in euro 96 where they had 2 goals disallowed).
Donna Ferentes
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They can.
Donna Ferentes
jubliado
I think this misses the point. The question re: the bookies is not whether England are more likely to win or lose, but whether the odds offered by the bookies are out of step with reality. Which they generally are, because the market overestimates England's chances.RenegadeDog said:
Donna Ferentes said:
But England don't actually lose a vast number of games. In most qualifying games, for instance, you're fairly safe betting on England (even though we tend to make heavy work of them), as are you in games against mediocre teams. And even the odd shock win against a top side in a situation other than a knockout one. But when it comes to the crunch, I think where zed is right, when England are playing any 'big side' in a knockout round, the smart money is without a doubt on their opposition.
But yeah I see your point... The British betting market is quite ludicrous...
mrkikiet said:
Is he definitely??
undercover said:
nothing to do with balls. if you knew anything about football then you'd know that he can't be punished twice. he got a yellow and thats the end of it. the ref booked him and has obviousley mentioned it in his notes, if thats so then he can't be punished again.
i_hate_beckham
Him From A Village
Much as it pains me i think Portugal will win.
Argh! The referee is argentinean:
http://football.guardian.co.uk/worldcup2006/story/0,,1808303,00.html
http://football.guardian.co.uk/worldcup2006/story/0,,1808303,00.html
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He's the lost Chuckle Brother!
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/ref/38922_ELIZONDO_Horacio.html
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/ref/38922_ELIZONDO_Horacio.html
RenegadeDog said:
Don't see that as necessarily a bad thing, he'll be under orders to be fair and objective, and will probably feel himself under a bit of pressure to be so ... </optimism>
Whats his track record like so far in this WC, or before, I wonder?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horacio_ElizondoWilliam of Walworth said:Whats his track record like so far in this WC, or before, I wonder?
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Portugal do have a great team, and England have not been playing 100% so far. But Spain and Ghana played very well this year... and they've been knocked out.dessiato said:
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So does this make England the underdogs? 
souljacker
innit
urb said:
I hope the poor sod hasn't got a website.
Apparently some of his decisions in Switzerland v South korea were controversial...
Fuck - FIFA blocked Korean access to their website to stop the Koreans complaining!!!! Let's hope he doesn't do anything rash against England!
Lark Mawrenson has predicted England to win on penalties...
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
RenegadeDog said:
to be fair, he was spot on with allowing Frei's goal to stand
the Koreans were annoyed because Lino was flagging for offside, but the ref saw the defender play him on and let the goal stand.
Think of it like Milton Nielsen and Meier disallowing goals for clear fouls by Shearer and Terry, and the English reaction to both.
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at the memories of heartbreak*Yep the English fans were disgraceful in their treatment of Meier. When i watched that game live, I knew the goal wouldn't be allowed.
