England V Hungary thread.
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jiggajagga
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Negatives :- It appears to me that Sven or whoever had to give the team a bollocking at half time. They had a good slapping ( which they deserved for a dour display)
4-1-4-1 don't really suit. Stick to 4-4-2 Sven......with pace ffs!
Positives:-
Joe Cole just cemented his place if it was ever in doubt?
I'm no Beckham fan really but man he can pass a ball...but will he get those set piece chances against more intelligent opposition?
Bad 1st half...Above average 2nd half.
4-1-4-1 don't really suit. Stick to 4-4-2 Sven......with pace ffs!
Positives:-
Joe Cole just cemented his place if it was ever in doubt?
I'm no Beckham fan really but man he can pass a ball...but will he get those set piece chances against more intelligent opposition?
Bad 1st half...Above average 2nd half.
Genghis Cohen
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Robinson - Not a great deal to do, one 'save' that would have gone over anyway, couldnt have done anything about the goal.
Neville - Did well, got forward and supported beckham when needed.
Terry - Made a few good tackles, wasted too much in front of goal, think he had about 5 chances in all.
Ferdinand - Just cant see the point.
A.Cole - He's never a defender.
Beckham - Good set pieces but not enough from open play, time to let someone else have a go at direct free kicks.
Carragher - Outstanding in the middle, broke them up in the centre of the park brilliantly, HELD onto the ball well (think he only lost it once) like a HOLDING midfielder is supposed to, hungarians had fuck all in the centre of the pitch whilst he was there, also got forward well on two occasions. Effective at right back and got up to support Beckham well even if the stupid twat never saw.
Lampard - Time to drop him I'm afraid, offered nothing other than missing a penalty, he was SUPPOSED to be in front of Carragher showing for the ball but he was nowhere to be seen and Carragher gets the blame, fuck off.
Cole - Shit for 80 minutes, outstanding run to setup the goal but his decision making and awareness is very, very poor, A.Cole and Gerrard were overlapping time and time again he kept running into a dead end.
Gerrard - Not his best but still did well, 'won' a penalty after some good control and it was a good finish running in.
Owen - I fucking told you ALL he'd be shit coming back from injury, time for Bent or Defoe to come in.
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Hargreaves - Gave away the ball too much, gave away too many free kicks, let hungary run riot in the middle of the park, probably to blame for the goal, not of international standard.
Campbell - Did alright, apart from the booking.
Walcott - Barely had a touch yet managed to put the ball across the goal twice, fairplay to him.
Crouch - Did everything well, started the move that led to his goal from deep and what a finish.
Neville - Did well, got forward and supported beckham when needed.
Terry - Made a few good tackles, wasted too much in front of goal, think he had about 5 chances in all.
Ferdinand - Just cant see the point.
A.Cole - He's never a defender.
Beckham - Good set pieces but not enough from open play, time to let someone else have a go at direct free kicks.
Carragher - Outstanding in the middle, broke them up in the centre of the park brilliantly, HELD onto the ball well (think he only lost it once) like a HOLDING midfielder is supposed to, hungarians had fuck all in the centre of the pitch whilst he was there, also got forward well on two occasions. Effective at right back and got up to support Beckham well even if the stupid twat never saw.
Lampard - Time to drop him I'm afraid, offered nothing other than missing a penalty, he was SUPPOSED to be in front of Carragher showing for the ball but he was nowhere to be seen and Carragher gets the blame, fuck off.
Cole - Shit for 80 minutes, outstanding run to setup the goal but his decision making and awareness is very, very poor, A.Cole and Gerrard were overlapping time and time again he kept running into a dead end.
Gerrard - Not his best but still did well, 'won' a penalty after some good control and it was a good finish running in.
Owen - I fucking told you ALL he'd be shit coming back from injury, time for Bent or Defoe to come in.
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Hargreaves - Gave away the ball too much, gave away too many free kicks, let hungary run riot in the middle of the park, probably to blame for the goal, not of international standard.
Campbell - Did alright, apart from the booking.
Walcott - Barely had a touch yet managed to put the ball across the goal twice, fairplay to him.
Crouch - Did everything well, started the move that led to his goal from deep and what a finish.
Gerrard won a penalty by diving like the worst Italian, Argentine or Spanish player. No one mentioned it on MotD. Pontificating Gary Lineker who goes on and on and on about Maradona and his cheating said nothing. The only sly reference without mentioning the word cheat was Wrighty saying "they're gonna do it to us so we'll have to do it to them" Nice one Wrighty. Can't argue with that. It's football. except when England get knocked out by a blatant diving penalty and then everyone in England will shout cheat, and the Sun will print the ref's name. Sometimes this country is so far up it's own sanctimonious arse it makes me want to puke. That and fucking St George's flags 
Genghis Cohen
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I've no idea why he went down there tbh, he did brilliantly to hold onto it and he could have easily stuck it in from there.
Think the angle was a bit deceptive, I'm waiting to see it from a few more.
Think the angle was a bit deceptive, I'm waiting to see it from a few more.
Harold Hill
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squeegee said:Gerrard won a penalty by diving like the worst Italian, Argentine or Spanish player. No one mentioned it on MotD. Pontificating Gary Lineker who goes on and on and on about Maradona and his cheating said nothing. The only sly reference without mentioning the word cheat was Wrighty saying "they're gonna do it to us so we'll have to do it to them" Nice one Wrighty. Can't argue with that. It's football. except when England get knocked out by a blatant diving penalty and then everyone in England will shout cheat, and the Sun will print the ref's name. Sometimes this country is so far up it's own sanctimonious arse it makes me want to puke. That and fucking St George's flags
Fuck off then.
I thought it was a pretty decent performance.
Agree that Lampard was the worst player though. Who said Joe Cole was shit for 80 minutes?
I sometimes wonder if people go into Englnad games expecting us to play like Brazil. When have England ever played like that? For a friendly it was reasonable.
Agree that Lampard was the worst player though. Who said Joe Cole was shit for 80 minutes?
I sometimes wonder if people go into Englnad games expecting us to play like Brazil. When have England ever played like that? For a friendly it was reasonable.
Harold Hill
Jay Emm forgot his p/word
RenegadeDog said:I thought it was a pretty decent performance.
Agree that Lampard was the worst player though. Who said Joe Cole was shit for 80 minutes?
I sometimes wonder if people go into Englnad games expecting us to play like Brazil. When have England ever played like that? For a friendly it was reasonable.
Good result given they were playing so deep.
England still give the ball away too much though.
Genghis Cohen
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Sunray said:
Well argued.
HAVE IT.
Harold Hill said:
Yes, but not as badly as some times in the past.
Hargreaves proved that used in the right position he is a decent enough player imo...
This is what it'll be like playing Sweden (as if we need to know) men behind the ball and breaking, Sweden are better than Hungary though obviously. Hope Carrick gets the holding role on Saturday, if he or Neville get injured Carragher can do either role, though he needs to look up more after he's won the ball. Hungary wouldn't have scored if Carragher was still on, he'd have closed down that chap I reckon. Great goal though nevertheless. Not impressed by Hargreaves again.
Lampard looked a lot better when Gerrard went off. Owen will sharpen up and start putting those chances away, J.Cole is playing consistently well now. Gerrard did okay, doubt he'll get many free headers like that again though, blatent dive from the cheesy-faced cunt too. Crouch again proved he's a good late sub, I like it. A good 'keeper would've claimed the catch for the JT goal. A.Cole and Rio, meh. Theo, settled in okay, pacey and looked dangerous at times.
Friendlies mean fuck all really though, players are at 80-90%.
"A good run out".
Lampard looked a lot better when Gerrard went off. Owen will sharpen up and start putting those chances away, J.Cole is playing consistently well now. Gerrard did okay, doubt he'll get many free headers like that again though, blatent dive from the cheesy-faced cunt too. Crouch again proved he's a good late sub, I like it. A good 'keeper would've claimed the catch for the JT goal. A.Cole and Rio, meh. Theo, settled in okay, pacey and looked dangerous at times.
Friendlies mean fuck all really though, players are at 80-90%.
"A good run out".
jiggajagga
Judge_Mental
I think the 2 halves tell us one thing that is a definite. If England wish to do well in this cup they MUST PLAY AT PACE WITH PASSION.
Otherwise, pack ya backs now boys and come on home.
Otherwise, pack ya backs now boys and come on home.
squeegee said:Gerrard won a penalty by diving like the worst Italian, Argentine or Spanish player. No one mentioned it on MotD. Pontificating Gary Lineker who goes on and on and on about Maradona and his cheating said nothing. The only sly reference without mentioning the word cheat was Wrighty saying "they're gonna do it to us so we'll have to do it to them" Nice one Wrighty. Can't argue with that. It's football. except when England get knocked out by a blatant diving penalty and then everyone in England will shout cheat, and the Sun will print the ref's name. Sometimes this country is so far up it's own sanctimonious arse it makes me want to puke. That and fucking St George's flags
Couldn't agree more.
Cheating twats
jiggajagga said:
We tried that with Keegan remember:
"Come on lads, listen to Jerusalem and then go out and do 'em"
Doesn't really work on its own.
Organisation, patience, and calmness is more important, time-and-time again teams show the value of this, Greece being the optimum example.
jiggajagga
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Flashman said:
Maybe but boring or what!
Better to die on your feet than on your knees. Its the British way mate! Up and atem!!
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g force
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Average performance with a flattering scoreline. The system didn't really work, Carragher did his job, but offered nothing to the team, Joe Cole drifted in and out as usual. Owen was very poor.
Its clear that when England play with pace they're a much better team, but with Caragher, Lampard and Gerrard all in the team it just doesn't work. If Sven wants to play the holding midfield player, Carrick is a better bet. The need for a second striker was shown in the first half, which was one of the worst footballing displays i've witnessed.
England can't rely on Beckham's crosses to supply goals - better teams will easily suss the England pattern and just close everyone down. On that display last 16 is about the best they can hope for.
Its clear that when England play with pace they're a much better team, but with Caragher, Lampard and Gerrard all in the team it just doesn't work. If Sven wants to play the holding midfield player, Carrick is a better bet. The need for a second striker was shown in the first half, which was one of the worst footballing displays i've witnessed.
England can't rely on Beckham's crosses to supply goals - better teams will easily suss the England pattern and just close everyone down. On that display last 16 is about the best they can hope for.
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Gerrad dived - inesxcusable face of modern football shown there.
But the tackle that was coming in from yer Hungarian defender was two footed and studs high. Bet lots of people would be cursing him this morning if he'd done Gerrards ankle over and put him out of the WC.
Gerrard in the second half was thinking two seconds ahead of everyone around him - one of a few England games where he's shown club form
But the tackle that was coming in from yer Hungarian defender was two footed and studs high. Bet lots of people would be cursing him this morning if he'd done Gerrards ankle over and put him out of the WC.
Gerrard in the second half was thinking two seconds ahead of everyone around him - one of a few England games where he's shown club form
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