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England Squad - No Sol, Becks or James

Stobart Stopper said:
They should kick out any player who refuses to sing our national anthem, ungrateful little fucks. Probably too thick to know the words.


We are talking about football you are a female , So fuck off !!
 
Ninjaboy said:
he scores goals and gets assists, he;s effective

like i said, on our recent performances it should be lampard who has to fight his way back into the squad since he basically spent the world cup running around likke a headless chickenand spooning the ball into row Z

beckham scored a couple of goals and set a few up, which is an excellent performance considering the whole team never got out of 2nd gear

Its ok Ninjaboy , I know you dont much about footie , You support Newcastle :D :p .
 
Pawn said:
Its ok Ninjaboy , I know you dont much about footie , You support Newcastle :D :p .

since we have signed dyer, jenas, parker and owen in the last few years, i would be dissapointed if we didn't get beckham at some point....
 
I'm glad Beckham is gone because football has only been a part time job for him for a long time, second to his main interest of "celebrity" which is totally the wrong way to demonstrate the honour of playing for England, let alone captaining them.

Good to see Dawson included and hopefully he'll get a run. Similar in some ways to Terry in using his Moore-esque use of game-reading to make up for any pace lacked. Hopefully he'll be a first choice in a couple of years and has the makings of a possible future captain. Would have liked to have seen Micah Richards in there, maybe instead of Young as I was very impressed with him last season and he could be Neville's heir apparent.
 
in light of the changes, let's hope mclaren isn't frightened to change the way England have been playing either.

personally i would rather have seen gerrard as captain. let's play attacking football again with an attack minded captain; let's hope mclaren doesn't stick one up front like almost every other team seems to be these days. unsually for england, though, there is a shortage of top strikers. ok rooney when he's not suspended but we can't keep relying on owen and i can't see too many others who look like they will turn into hitmen.
 
i'm still mystified by what happened with svennis

when he started our tactics looked excellent and he made us a lot less flaky, he is the manager who saw us destroy germany 5-1 away and outplay argentina, i haven't been keeping such a close track over the last few years but he was one of the most respected managers in the game with his track record

but our tactics in germany were abysmal. we had a great generation of players at the right age, and a draw that meant we didn't have to face a decent team till the semis and we fucked it up
 
McCalren is following a Man Utd Agenda.

In

Richardson
Foster
Neville P
Brown

Out

Beckham

Its almost as though he worked at Man Utd before isn't it???
 
Ninjaboy said:
i'm still mystified by what happened with svennis

when he started our tactics looked excellent and he made us a lot less flaky, he is the manager who saw us destroy germany 5-1 away and outplay argentina, i haven't been keeping such a close track over the last few years but he was one of the most respected managers in the game with his track record

but our tactics in germany were abysmal. we had a great generation of players at the right age, and a draw that meant we didn't have to face a decent team till the semis and we fucked it up


Germany was a fluke , We got super lucky in that game .
 
I have to agree with ninjaboy, if anyone should be dropped it should be lampard and let becks take his spot. In fact when beckham is in midfield he looks quite good. Some will talk about the NI game but becks was the only player who was looking to distribute in vulnerable areas.
 
Lampard an gerrard will never play well together while i have a hole in my ass , I think Mclaren has dropped his fist clanger already , gerrard should be captain , Gerrad as captain for Liverpool is one of if not the greatest midfielder in the world . If there is a chance that by making him captain he will reproduce his Liverpool form for england then thats what should be done . terry is a ok player but not in the same class as gerrard .

Still ive said it before an i will say it again if england win a world cup or european cup under this cretin Mclaren i will stop hunting , It will never happen dont say much when he has to run of an get venebales in to hold his hand :mad: .

This really does piss me of more years of playing like cunts run by cunts .

Mclaren is on my list of people to have killed when i win the lottery so watch this space .
 
He only got in the world cup squad coz he plays for liverpool, if he played for someone shit like villa he wouldn't have even be considered. The same is true of walcott, only in the squad because of arseface wanker paying a fucking packet for him, presumably when coming down off some acid.
 
maximilian ping said:
why Peter Crouch plays in the Premiership, let alone for England, is one of the deepest mysteries of the current epoch

He's crap isn't he? It's painful watching him sometimes.
 
Pawn said:
:eek: :eek: :D :D :D



You must be of your rocker heskey is the shitest player ever to pull on the england top id call him a cunt but even a cunt has a use that man has none .

We'll see. I suspect Heskey will surprise a few people this season. Suppose you never saw him for Leicester or in his first season at Liverpool when he tore the prem apart? There's plenty of people on here who'd agree with me. Search this forum for Heskey.
 
Re. Crouch, I think it's a prime case of picked according to what club you play for; helps get Southampton relegated and he's nowhere near England, ups sticks to Merseyside and suddenly he's first choice behind Owen and Rooney. I can well see it happening with Carrick too, although he warranted a place in the first XI when at Spurs.

I'd like to see us try a 4-3-3 as a lot of countries use, similar to below (with all available);
Robbo
Neville Ferdinand Terry Cole
Gerrard Hargreaves Carrick
Lennon Owen Rooney
This would just be as an option, because I think it's strange to only have one way of playing and no back up should a key player get injured.
 
ChrisFilter said:
We'll see. I suspect Heskey will surprise a few people this season. Suppose you never saw him for Leicester or in his first season at Liverpool when he tore the prem apart? There's plenty of people on here who'd agree with me. Search this forum for Heskey.

I'm one of them. Neither crouch or heskey are rubbish. In fact england played better with heskey than without him. Why does everyone blame the manager when the players are the one orchestrating his plans. Everyones a critic and has a quick fix solution, but the real problem is our attitude towards the game and our ability to play it.
 
I'm nae reading 4 pages of posts, so i'll jut say it looks like mclarens trying a bit too hard to show that hes not sven. After spending weeks saying sven was too conservative and stuck with his faves for far too long, i'm now almost a bit nostalgic for Beckham et al :o

Actually though, with all the bans and injuries you can't really judge him from this squad. Its also a pretty good summary of all the players who are there or there abouts. fair play to him.
 
muser said:
I'm one of them. Neither crouch or heskey are rubbish. In fact england played better with heskey than without him. Why does everyone blame the manager when the players are the one orchestrating his plans. Everyones a critic and has a quick fix solution, but the real problem is our attitude towards the game and our ability to play it.

I was quite surprised a couple of months back, as I often felt the only person who recognised what Heskey brought to a team, but as I said, search for Heskey and there was nearly an entire thread of people agreeing that Heskey, when utilised correctly, can make a real difference to a game.

If Wigan can get it then they'll have struck gold. Then again, he could be dire and lacking confidence.
 
LOL Hesky is shit , What can you do on the floor ? . England were better with him ! come on give it a break . We have gone backwards under Eriksson he is/was shit tactically inept . He is the one in charge he is the cunt who made Beckham captain . We should have won the world cup in 02 but we never because of him an Beckham . People come out with this shit beckham got bla bla bla , But fuck me i could have got something if i was played no matter how shit i played , He has been untouchable for to long NO player should get that you should be in the teams on your form an what you bring to it not Hope much money you make the fa . Just think were we would have been with someone who could run at people causing havoc on the wing .

And as for Crouch he has his place if used correctly , Going to one up front an ask him to knock balls on to no one when we have gone 4-5-1 up front is not that place . Yet more bad tactics from Eriksson . We will do nothing under Mclaren either though that i am 100% adamant of .
 
You dis Heskey and Beckham, but reckon Crouch has a place!?

Mad as hatter... that's where the saying comes from eh? Not Lewis Carroll ;)
 
ChrisFilter said:
I was quite surprised a couple of months back, as I often felt the only person who recognised what Heskey brought to a team, but as I said, search for Heskey and there was nearly an entire thread of people agreeing that Heskey, when utilised correctly, can make a real difference to a game.

If Wigan can get it then they'll have struck gold. Then again, he could be dire and lacking confidence.

He did a fantastic job for Leicester.
 
Pawn said:
he is the cunt who made Beckham captain

without wanting to be pedantic, it was actually Peter Taylor who made Beckham captain, not Sven. Although I accept he could have changed reversed this decision.
 
Pawn said:
Germany was a fluke , We got super lucky in that game .

Yeah, if you watch the game again there was nothing in the play between the two teams - Germany had five chances and buried one, England had one of those nights , 5 chances 5 goals.

Football's like that sometimes.
 
stavros said:
Good to see Dawson included and hopefully he'll get a run. Similar in some ways to Terry in using his Moore-esque use of game-reading to make up for any pace lacked.

right. don't EVER compare dawson to bobby moore.

ever.

OK?

right, carry on.

edit: and for that matter you can leave terry out of it too.
 
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