England Fans.... GSTQ and Rule Brittania

[Chorlton]

Yep - isn't the German national anthem still "Deutschland Uber Alles"?

not *really* if you have an internet and google and a wikipedia you can find out more.... if you don't, someone will be along soon to pass this information off as their own

 

[Yossarian]

I clicked on a couple of links offering information about the German national anthem but they all started playing it soon as I went to the site and I got some funny looks.

 

[Chorlton]

Well yossarian, i happen to be an expert on Das Lied der Deutschen ("The Song of the Germans", also known as Das Deutschlandlied, "The Song of Germany") has been used wholly or partially as the national anthem of Germany since 1922. Outside Germany, the hymn is sometimes informally known by the opening words and refrain of the first stanza, Deutschland, Deutschland über alles, but this was never the title of the original work nor is the first stanza part of the current German national anthem.

 

[CyberRose]

Anyway Chorlton, I think the police in Scotland are lookin for ya!!

http://football.guardian.co.uk/worldcup2006/story/0,,1802684,00.html

 

[Yossarian]

You know your stuff! Do German football supporters ever sing the first stanza, or is that frowned upon?

 

[Chorlton]

Anyway Chorlton, I think the police in Scotland are lookin for ya!!

anyone who physically attacks another person over the football team they support is a fucken cunt.


and you can quote me on that

 

[Chorlton]

You know your stuff! Do German football supporters ever sing the first stanza, or is that frowned upon?

well yos - i'm glad you asked that too, Because at the end of World War II, Das Lied der Deutschen was banned by the victors, due to the Nazi connotation. After a few years without a national anthem they reinstated it leaving out the controversial first stanza but when West Germany won the Football World Cup 1954 in Berne, Switzerland, the lyrics of the first stanza dominated when the crowd sang along. This might have partially been due to lack of knowledge among Germans about the third stanza lyrics, while the first was partially even known by foreigners.

 

[Brockway]

Just for you Brockway..

In South America British sailors had played football in Brazil in the 1870s, but the main moving spirit who established it was Charles Miller, the son of English immigrants. He encouraged British resident workers to form clubs (some already existed for cricket). The first mainly Brazilian club was the Associaciao Athletica Mackenzie College in São Paulo. In Argentina the game was introduced by British residents in Buenos Aires and the FA was founded in 1893. However, it caught on quite slowly and in the end it was Italian immigrants who made the game popular. Chile formed its FA in 1895, Uruguay in 1900, and Paraguay in 1906. British influence in South America is evident in the names of some club sides: Corinthians in Brazil, Everton and Rangers in Chile, Liverpool and Wanderers in Uruguay, and Newell’s Old Boys in Argentina.

From http://uk.encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761562549/Football_Association_History_of.html

So, if English sailors exported football to South America - how come Brazil and Argentina aren't shit? Also what are a bunch of seamen and workers doing naming their clubs Corinthians and Newell's Old Boys?

Also - genuinely curious - why didn't football catch on in say New York, on one of the most well used shipping routes? I'm sure British seamen/ and the far greater number of ex-pats must have kicked a ball about over there. Or in Australia, for that matter?

 

[Harold Hill]

course i don't think yer fascist - don't be silly

makes you wonder tho... when you go off looking for images that show support of yer team and all you can find is something from those cunts.

Hows the old 'reclaim Rule Britannia from the far right' going anyway? i mean its obvious that you have reclaimed the st george cross - that should be a breeze

Maybe it was just the first one he saw.