England @ Euro 2016

Discussion in 'Euro 2016' started by Lord Camomile, May 16, 2016.

  1. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    So we don't contaminate the general thread ;)

    26-man squad announced

     
  2. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    as long as wilshere doesn't come back injured i'm not fussed.
     
  3. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    I don't think Rashford should go, just because I don't think it would be good for his development.

    My colleague's a bit sore Defoe didn't make the squad :D It's a tricky one, he's clearly in great form but is he what England need when they already have Kane and Vardy?
     
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  4. nuffsaid

    nuffsaid But this goes up to 11

    Henderson - Lallana, the weakest links. Wilshere will need all 90mins of the 3 friendlies beforehand to get anywhere near his best, but definitely worth it. Rooney better play midfield only, there' no way he's ahead of Kane, Vardy or Sturridge as a striker.
     
  5. big eejit

    big eejit She looks like Alan Gilzean

    I think Rashford should go too, never mind his development, he's a match winner. Can't see him making the final 23 though unless Roy recatogorises Rooney as a midfielder. Which he won't.
     
  6. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    Actually, there's a fair few curious choices: Delph and Stirling have hardly been pulling up trees for Man City, though I can understand the hope that the latter will magically turn on some magic, somehow. Lallana hasn't had a stellar season either.

    I'm a big defender of Milner, so glad he's in there again. I've always quite liked Townsend but still a little surprised he's in there.
     
  7. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    It's that sort of short-term thinking that causes us so many problems in the long run :p
     
  8. big eejit

    big eejit She looks like Alan Gilzean

    I mean irrespective of his development. I'd take him cos he's a better striker than Rooney.
     
  9. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    Yeah, I get that's what you mean, and what I mean is that's short-term thinking because you're just thinking of "he might score a couple of goals in this tournament", rather than it might not be best for him development-wise in the longer term. I'd have to revisit the arguments but there's been a lot said of playing players in their age-appropriate tournaments, rather than 'blooding' them in the first squad tournaments as soon as they show any kind of promise. Let him be for now, so he's better in the future.
     
  10. Monkeygrinder's Organ

    Monkeygrinder's Organ Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager

    It's not a squad that's going to challenge to win the tournament is it - the likes of Germany and Spain wouldn't pick Henderson or Delph in their 6th teams if they had them. That said it's much lower on massive cunts than previous teams and they could at least be enjoyable to watch if they give it a decent go.
     
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  11. big eejit

    big eejit She looks like Alan Gilzean

    OK, in that case we just disagree about what's best for his development. Personally I think he would cope fine and it would be good for him to go.
     
  12. Teaboy

    Teaboy It definitely looks brighter over there..

    Delph and Drinkwater would be mostly likely to miss out I would have thought assuming there are no injuries. Not sure who the 3rd would be probably Rashford.
     
  13. Teaboy

    Teaboy It definitely looks brighter over there..

    Delph is clearly in as cover for Wilshere. I doubt he'll make the cut.

    There are some really exciting players in that squad, I mean who wouldn't want Vardy, Kane and Sturridge? Its not the midfield or the forwards that are the worry its the defence. We will always concede because we lack top level centre backs. That is why we'll probably progress well enough till we meet a Germany or a Spain or France etc and then we'll get beaten.
     
  14. souljacker

    souljacker A bit of skullduggery

    I hoped Mark Noble may have got a look in, especially considering Henderson and Wilshere are both returning from injury.

    Also, not sure about taking Rashford. He's only going to get one match before the squad is finalised. I'm all for blooding young players but not this close to a major tournament.
     
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  15. Libertad

    Libertad Would it help?

    Mark Noble's omission is incomprehensible, but I would say that wouldn't I?
     
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  16. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

    I'd take a punt on Rashford. We need more yoot dem to come through before the World Cup.
     
  17. tommers

    tommers Your disco needs you

    He doesn't take Walcott cos he "hasn't played enough". But takes somebody who has played 3 games this season.

    He doesn't pick Noble cos "I'm not picking people off the back of one good season". But takes Drinkwater.

    Fabian Delph? Townsend?

    I like Roy but these are some odd choices.
     
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  18. Libertad

    Libertad Would it help?

    Hodgson out now!
     
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  19. tommers

    tommers Your disco needs you

    I suppose Raheem Stirling might ignore the evidence of the whole last season and dribble it past somebody and maybe even pass the ball to one of his own players.

    But he cost City £50 million I suppose so he's in.

    What the fuck does Adam Lallana do?

    Michail Antonio is better than any winger in that squad.
     
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  20. Libertad

    Libertad Would it help?

    Agreed, great goal yesterday as well.
     
  21. Fez909

    Fez909 toilet expert

    I think it's a pretty good squad. Light in defence, OK in midfield, exciting forwards.


    It's coming home :facepalm::oops:
     
  22. heinous seamus

    heinous seamus til clay-cauld death shall blind my ee

    It's quite a young squad - they haven't reached their full potential yet ;)
     
  23. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    I think, much like the likes of Germany and Spain did, we should ignore thoughts of challenging to win the tournament. Again, we need to take a longer view, build foundations for the future. Get a side used to playing together, used to tournament football, and then build on that over the next 4-8 years. Then start to think about winning ;)
     
  24. technical

    technical stripey

    Surely its the defence in that squad that is the problem. Three centre halves, one of whom (Stones) is a total liability.
     
  25. nuffsaid

    nuffsaid But this goes up to 11

    What about Andy Carroll? - it's the 89th minute and we need a goal from a rare corner against Slovakia to go through because we blew it in the opener and Wales battled us to a draw. The last samurai can bully his way to scoring whereas Rooney will just end up shouting back at the fans for booing him.
     
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  26. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    For the lols

    My England starting XI

    This was very quickly hashed together, probably wouldn't actually start with this :oops: :p
     
  27. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

    It wouldn't be proper England without a contentious squad naming day ahead of a major tournament.

    We need a metatarsal injury too from Vardy or Rooney next, and a cut out and keep foot to pray to from The Sun, a re-release of Three Lions '16 with ageing Baddiel and Skinner, and some fluff pieces in the news about "England-mad" fans paining their houses red and white.
     
  28. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    Fiiiiiiiiifty years of hurt...
     
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  29. souljacker

    souljacker A bit of skullduggery

    We haven't had a 'England fans arrange huge fight with anyone who wants a go' story yet either.
     
  30. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

    Plastic chair war with Welsh fans in Lens, anyone?
     
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