England come home

Discussion in 'football' started by palomino, Jun 13, 2010.

  1. StanSmith

    StanSmith Three Lions on my shirt

    A Gornal Pig!
  2. StanSmith

    StanSmith Three Lions on my shirt

    Nah that Lenny Henry is more our ting
  3. discokermit

    discokermit Well-Known Member

    c'mon, ted the taff. give it a go, make a joke.

    like pulling a tub of coal, straining at the harness. if you pull hard enough you'll see light at the end of the tunnel.
  4. discokermit

    discokermit Well-Known Member

    oh yes.
  5. Proper Tidy

    Proper Tidy I killed a man

    Go cuddle your wank sock you boring cunt.
  6. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    Can someone tell me why England dont play with structure, passing it around, keeping possession, then making darting runs? thats what brazil and italy do. Egnland can do it - they even did when johnson went off in the US game with a bust lip - England passed it around for nearly 60 seconds! i think the reason england lose is that they never keep shape or structure.

    is that what that chpater says?

    *they do have terrible luck on pens, that cant be denied...
  7. discokermit

    discokermit Well-Known Member

    must try harder.
  8. Proper Tidy

    Proper Tidy I killed a man


    *awaits hilariously original quip about sheep and/or mining*
  9. discokermit

    discokermit Well-Known Member

    you're right, this has gone on long enough.

    let's heal it with song, ready?

    the old home town looks the same as I step down from the train,
    and there to meet me is my mama and papa.
    down the road I look and there runs Mary hair of gold and lips like cherries.
    it's good to touch the green, green grass of home.....
  10. discokermit

    discokermit Well-Known Member

    join in whenever you like.
  11. Proper Tidy

    Proper Tidy I killed a man

    Okay. You're a boring cunt, doo dah doo dah.
  12. discokermit

    discokermit Well-Known Member

    don't know that one,

    how about,

    I saw the light on the night that I passed by her window
    I saw the flickering shadow of love on her blind
    She was my woman
    As she decieved me I watched and went out of my mind

    My my my Delilah
    Why why why Delilah.......
  13. Proper Tidy

    Proper Tidy I killed a man

    Three lions on the shirt
    Jules Rimet still gleaming
    No more years of hurt
    No more need for dreaming

  14. discokermit

    discokermit Well-Known Member

    see! you can do it if you try!

    night night taff.
  15. Proper Tidy

    Proper Tidy I killed a man

    Ta ra you boring dull bastard
  16. Lo Siento.

    Lo Siento. Second As Farce

    just as aside to this interesting debate. The England Under17s recently won their first european championship, beating Spain in the final. So there can't be too much wrong with the youth system, can there?
  17. Lo Siento.

    Lo Siento. Second As Farce

    Just to come back to the OP for a second. Don't be such a fucking tit.
  18. Proper Tidy

    Proper Tidy I killed a man

    I wouldn't read a huge amount into it. It is a development competition, after all, and is England's first success at that level (although they've a fairly good record in reaching the later stages). England's record at sub-17 age levels is pretty good too.

    The problem, from England's perspective, is that these successes peter out as the age levels increase. A secondary concern is that only a small minority of players at this level progress to more senior sides, or even progress to a decent level of club football. The main criticism of England at youth level is that their teams rely far too much on physicality - for instance, in the under 17 European championship the English side were physically far more imposing than the majority of other sides - which works at that level in terms of winning games, but isn't the best strategy for developing technically accomplished players at senior level.

    A large part of the problem with development across the UK is this emphasis on winning at youth level. It doesn't really matter, it should be about developing individual talents, but as you can see at any park on any Saturday morning across the UK, we tend to teach kids not to dribble or take risks, place far too much emphasis on playing as a team and on winning games.

    Football generally is becoming more about physicality and athleticism, with honourable exceptions for Argentina and Spain, which is probably of benefit to England in the long run. You only have to look at Brasilian football, for example, and how it has changed since the 1982 world cup from a technically focussed and aesthetic mentality to a more tactically confined and physical mentality. The likes of Adriano - immobile, raw but physically imposing - would never have got a look in for Brasil a few decades ago. A shame for the game if you ask me.
  19. taffboy gwyrdd

    taffboy gwyrdd Embrace the confusion!

  20. StanSmith

    StanSmith Three Lions on my shirt

  21. Badgers

    Badgers Mr Big Shrimp!

    How far we have come
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