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Emo - whats all THAT about?

Anyone prepared to come on here and say they like emo? I have met hundreds of people but not one who has admitted to it! I want to know what the attraction is...

i fucking LOVE emo, all kinds. Old credible stuff, the less credible stuff, and the saccharine pop punk stuff for kiddies. Its all good. It presses my fun button.

this is somewhere in between:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dd7nZsKeTKU

I gave up trying to be cool with my music choices after i stopped being a teenager, you don't get any extra points for it :)
 
It's basically gay hardcore that's sold out and went pop. I think.

yep.

Not originally, but certainly now thats what the term means.

Fuck hardcore anyway, like i say being dogmatic and macho about the mucis you make doesn't win you any respect in my eyes. If being gay and singing is waht you want to do, go for it.

I do like some hardcore, but rarely. I like tunes and audible lyrics too much.

And i love all the metrosexual emo types. Yummy! Anything that gets kids to be all gay and less up themselves is win.
 
Fugazi are emo now?

Well I never.

fugazi are boring and shit :cool:

I may have liked them, but the first things i saw was 'repeater: ten years with the band fugazi' on film4. What a waste of an hour on my part and a waste of ten years on their part. Boring, inarticulate, fannies.
 
Musically, what flies around here tagged as "emo" is dumbed down pop-rock influenced by Pixies, Smashing Pumpkins or Nirvana, with more emphasis on style than substance and overly dramatical lyrics. As a fashion, it's high-street goth for middle-class kids that spend money at Hot Topic and similar chains, and overall are as annoying as the tight-pant, fedora-wearing indie kids or the baggy pants and NFL jersey wearing blingers.
 
I always thought it described the american bands most commonly found on Vagrant or similar labels - Get up kids, Dashboard Confessional, Hey Mercedes, Saves the Day. Jimmy Eat World were referred to as emo. So yeah I used to quite like emo.

But I don't think it means that anymore. Now it is just strange to me. :(

I like The Get Up Kids, Saves the Day, I like some Jimmy Eats World, I like Jawbreaker, I probably like a load of other stuff that is classed as emo, really. So what, though?
 
Musically, what flies around here tagged as "emo" is dumbed down pop-rock influenced by Pixies, Smashing Pumpkins or Nirvana, with more emphasis on style than substance and overly dramatical lyrics. As a fashion, it's high-street goth for middle-class kids that spend money at Hot Topic and similar chains, and overall are as annoying as the tight-pant, fedora-wearing indie kids or the baggy pants and NFL jersey wearing blingers.

er, keep guessing mate!

christ and i thought I was misinformed.
 
I like The Get Up Kids, Saves the Day, I like some Jimmy Eats World, I like Jawbreaker, I probably like a load of other stuff that is classed as emo, really. So what, though?

I didn't think emo kids of today listened to Jimmy Eat World, but maybe the lego men have proved me wrong.

My main issue with the 'emo' word is how it used to describe an authentic genre of predominately american bands (though there were a few British bands that followed suit - Vex Red, Crackout, ThisGirl etc). Now it's been truly assimilated but is still parading around as some sort of 'youth subculture' when it clearly isn't, it's just another label used by mainstream culture to sell young people music and fashion that they're supposed to identify with.
 
since when were fugazi fucking emo?

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr such a dull debate! FUGAZI WERE EMO WHEN EMO MEANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT, ITS MEANT ABOUT THREE THINGS AND LIKE MOST LABELS HAS BEEN HIDEOUSLY MISAPROPRIATED BY THE MEDIA, BUT NEVERTHELESS THERE IS ENOUGH OVERLAP BETWEEN THE ERAS AND INCARNATIONS TO MAKE THE CONFUSION SOMEWHAT JUSTIFIABLE.

I mean, are Deep Purple heavy metal? Are Tool? Is garage made by scallies from croydon or by gay people in america?

and so on.
 
I didn't think emo kids of today listened to Jimmy Eat World, but maybe the lego men have proved me wrong.

My main issue with the 'emo' word is how it used to describe an authentic genre of predominately american bands (though there were a few British bands that followed suit - Vex Red, Crackout, ThisGirl etc). Now it's been truly assimilated but is still parading around as some sort of 'youth subculture' when it clearly isn't, it's just another label used by mainstream culture to sell young people music and fashion that they're supposed to identify with.

That's the best bit about it.

Please don't tell me you really think it was anything different?
 
I didn't think emo kids of today listened to Jimmy Eat World, but maybe the lego men have proved me wrong.

My main issue with the 'emo' word is how it used to describe an authentic genre of predominately american bands (though there were a few British bands that followed suit - Vex Red, Crackout, ThisGirl etc). Now it's been truly assimilated but is still parading around as some sort of 'youth subculture' when it clearly isn't, it's just another label used by mainstream culture to sell young people music and fashion that they're supposed to identify with.

Me either.

The stuff that I think of emo - the only example I can immediately think of is something like My Chemical Romance - is just really awful derivative generic 'alternative youth culture' stuff, stuff that I wouldn't have liked even when I was 14. The equivalent in my own youth was nu-metal, and I thought that was shit then, even when all my friends loved it.
 
I didn't think emo kids of today listened to Jimmy Eat World, but maybe the lego men have proved me wrong.

My main issue with the 'emo' word is how it used to describe an authentic genre of predominately american bands (though there were a few British bands that followed suit - Vex Red, Crackout, ThisGirl etc). Now it's been truly assimilated but is still parading around as some sort of 'youth subculture' when it clearly isn't, it's just another label used by mainstream culture to sell young people music and fashion that they're supposed to identify with.

but they *do* identify with it, so....?

Emo fashion (which again, has had many incarnations) most recently just merged a lot of trends into a mainstream influence. Its not being 'sold' back to kids, it was always for sale. Its fucking clothes and haircuts, how could it NOT be for sale? How could any youth subculture not be 'for sale' at some level? Did the punks kill and skin cows to make their leather jackets? Did the mods tailor their own suits?

and Jimmy Eat World's last UK tour sold out this year.
 
but they *do* identify with it, so....?

Emo fashion (which again, has had many incarnations) most recently just merged a lot of trends into a mainstream influence. Its not being 'sold' back to kids, it was always for sale. Its fucking clothes and haircuts, how could it NOT be for sale? How could any youth subculture not be 'for sale' at some level? Did the punks kill and skin cows to make their leather jackets? Did the mods tailor their own suits?

and Jimmy Eat World's last UK tour sold out this year.

I don't know about anybody else, but I certainly would not argue against the claim that youth culture has always been for sale - I would only say that it has never been something I have really identified with, even when I was young. I just liked the stuff that I liked.
 
er, keep guessing mate!

christ and i thought I was misinformed.
You're not from Portugal, and that's why I said "flies around here" - the ones of MCR, 30STM and the other band with the tatooed guy with the famous girlfriend are the ones tagged as "emo". A definition that itself became derivative - the kind I've described is the norm here, not the bands that follow the original "emotional hardcore" style.
 
Is emo sexist?

In October 2003, a Punk Planet contributor leveled the charge that the current era of emo was sexist. Hopper argued that where bands such as Jawbox, Jawbreaker and Sunny Day Real Estate had characterized women in such a way that they were not "exclusively defined by their absence or lensed through romantic-specter",[32] contemporary bands approached relationship issues by "damning the girl on the other side ... its woman-induced misery has gone from being descriptive to being prescriptive." Regarding the position of women listening to emo, the contributor went on to note that the music had become "just another forum where women were locked in a stasis of outside observation, observing ourselves through the eyes of others."
 
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