election results

[Guineveretoo]

The Tories don't have overall control of Brighton and Hove. They are the largest party, but thats not the same thing.

Matt

And, Labour didn't have control of the council last time, either!

 

[Guineveretoo]

I am pleased to see that there are still NO Tory councillors at all in Cambridge

 

[Prince Rhyus]

I am pleased to see that there are still NO Tory councillors at all in Cambridge

Shame the Greens didn't get a seat - may have spiced things up round our way...

 

[Soul On Ice]

Labour have done well in Leeds but fucked it in Sheffield!

In Nottingham Labour gained seats and retained control of the Council - they went up from 38 to 42 seats. Surely must be the best Labour result of the night?

 

[Guineveretoo]

Shame the Greens didn't get a seat - may have spiced things up round our way...

When I lived in Cambridge, we were always convinced that we were going to get either some Green Councillors, or a Green MEP.

In fact, I nominated the Green candidate several times.

It never happened, though.

 

[belboid]

In Nottingham Labour gained seats and retained control of the Council - they went up from 38 to 42 seats. Surely must be the best Labour result of the night?

gained three in leedds as well, northern cities did well for them, makes a brown victory look plausible

 

[Red Leicester]

Surely must be the best Labour result of the night?

How about Leicester?

Labour 20 -> 38

Conservative 10 -> 8

Liberal Democrats 24 -> 6

Green Party 0 -> 2

 

[The Black Hand]

Poor result for IWCA in Thurrock - it was the first time they had gone head to head with the BNP:

Corringham Town ward, Thurrock

Labour 905
Tory 844
BNP 505
IWCA 144

Well that fucks the IWCA and their strategy eh Louis/Portman... first time in 15 years they have been an alternative to the BNP in a local election and they've blown it... and this with lots of preparation (another debate on a different website).

There are many alternatives out their, and in one example in Easington the SPGB got approx 330 votes but still lost to Labour... In many other seats, eg. Derwentside, independents are making gains...

 

[Soul On Ice]

How about Leicester?

Labour 20 -> 38

Conservative 10 -> 8

Liberal Democrats 24 -> 6

Green Party 0 -> 2

I only checked the results for Nottingham cos I've got a mate who is on Nottingham Council - and stopped there! I hadn't checked Leicester and Leeds - ta for the update. So it wasn't total meltdown for Labour. And as Belboid says a Brown victory in a General Election is still possible cos:

a) the novelty factor of him not being Blair will still be there
b) many folk may vote against Labour in the Council election to "send a message" but there will still be may could not stomach voting for a Tory Government
c) I'm not convinced the public will warm to Cameron. He is really Blair-lite but with no policies, i.e. he is too wedded to image. Brown will offer an antidote to Blair by ignoring the image stuff and focussing on appearing as a substantial and serious politician and I reckon the public will prefer that to Blair mk2 which Cameron represents.

 

[Groucho]

Preston. Town Centre ward

Michael Lavalette Respect 1,179 ELECTED
Salim Desai Labour 717
Helen Greaves Liberal Democrats 206
Susan Joyce Horn Conservative 87
Vincent Rupert Wadsworth Green 63

Bolsover
Ray Holmes Respect 295 ELECTED
Stephen William Fritchley Labour 264
Ray Holmes was a former miner.

Birmingham Sparkbrook ward

Mohammed Ishtiaq Respect 3,514 ELECTED
Mohammed Azim Labour 2,503
Dilawar Khan Liberal Democrats 919
Anwar Hussain Conservative 548
Shokat Ali Community Independent Party (UK) 503
Charles John Alldrick Green 310
Arthur Charles Botterill British National Party 106

 

[The Black Hand]

The BNP vote is still a down to local conditions e.g. Sheffield, only 7 candidates which had varying levels of support. But close by in Barnsley they had fuller slates and so across town their level of support is easier to say, but cos the Sheffield result is SO thin, it spreads out if you include the other wards in the city and they become marginal...

If you take the North East, varying levels of vote, in a few wards they are doing well, but still no breakthrough, they've lost seats too, and not standing in many areas... The inexorable rise of the BNP therefore is not happening in our lifetimes, though they are a pain in the arse who deserve seeing to... But concentration should be on building class struggles and radical alternatives.

 

[The Black Hand]

Preston. Town Centre ward

Michael Lavalette Respect 1,179 ELECTED
Salim Desai Labour 717
Helen Greaves Liberal Democrats 206
Susan Joyce Horn Conservative 87
Vincent Rupert Wadsworth Green 63

Bolsover
Ray Holmes Respect 295 ELECTED
Stephen William Fritchley Labour 264
Ray Holmes was a former miner.

Birmingham Sparkbrook ward

Mohammed Ishtiaq Respect 3,514 ELECTED
Mohammed Azim Labour 2,503
Dilawar Khan Liberal Democrats 919
Anwar Hussain Conservative 548
Shokat Ali Community Independent Party (UK) 503
Charles John Alldrick Green 310
Arthur Charles Botterill British National Party 106

These are good votes for Wespect, and show that they can cut the mustard in old labour areas where the BNp are thought to be making progress, and defeat the BNP...

 

[The Black Hand]

Just had a look at the Leeds results and they are a mixed bag for the BNP - so it still looks like local conditions are important in each city in each ward.

BNP did very well in a couple of wards, but were humiliated in others (one I looked at got 44 votes) the other results were spread out in between and overall in Leeds they got approx 11% from standing a full slate. (but this % drops dramatically across Yorkshire if we include all seats where they were not standing at all...).

 

[Groucho]

2 good seconds for Respect in Brum.

Birmingham Nechells ward

Yvonne Mosquito Labour 1,878 ELECTED
Mushtaq Hussain Respect 1,013
Mohammed Masoom Liberal Democrats 874
Darren Michael Potter British National Party 297
Mohammed Shahban Community Independent Party (UK) 268
Janet Elizabeth Assheton Green 256
A Qayyum Raja People's Justice Party 167

Birmingham Aston ward

Muhammad Afzal Labour 2,684 ELECTED
Abdul Aziz Respect 2,018
Saeed Aehmed Liberal Democrats 2,005
Mohammed Muddassir Hasan Conservative 209
Liam Wilkinson Green 165
Pamela Joan Allen British National Party 136

 

[The Black Hand]

Just had a look at the BNP candidates for their 'full slate' in Sunderland - it is based on local conditions again, for Washington they shipped in redneck candidates from the Sunderland 'Ghetto' areas to stand, and so perhaps their overall results are a chimera? (they stand no chance of winning) Though of course that is not to say that they don't desearve a hammering...

 

[cockneyrebel]

Great left quote.......

after 10 years in which the true anti-working class nature of the Labour Party has been exposed to millions, the working class movement, our unions and local campaigning initiatives, have still not had the strength of mind or the clarity of purpose to set out on the road to a new mass working class party as an alternative to Labour's big business agenda.

The bloody working class, what's the matter with them, where's their strength of mind?

 

[The Black Hand]

BTW i can't wait for the Grey haired O'Shea, sorry Garry O'Shea, latest write up on the elections (RA/IWCA) - it will go something like this ( a precis);

'The BNP are spreading, the left are losing, therefore the only answer is the IWCA despite the result in Thurrock where in the first head to head in a local election we lost, not as badly on some on the left wanted us to lose, but we tried and clearly we are the only working class organisation with a chance and a strategy (despite it failing to deliver more than 3 council seats in 15 years...)

 

[Paul Marsh]

These are good votes for Wespect, and show that they can cut the mustard in old labour areas where the BNp are thought to be making progress, and defeat the BNP...

Can you repeat that please?

 

[The Black Hand]

Can you repeat that please?

Are you denying that the election results directly quoted, that my observation was based upon, could not draw that assumption? Are you in the business of denying the reality of those votes in Labour areas? The Bolsover one was especially interesting... Until you get out of your sectarianism and realise that there is some foundation for what people say to get election results such as those you will not get anywhere politically...

 

[Paul Marsh]

These are good votes for Wespect, and show that they can cut the mustard in old labour areas where the BNp are thought to be making progress, and defeat the BNP...

I doubt even Respect would have the nerve to claim they can defeat the BNP electorally. Certainly the BNP would welcome Respect candidates against them in every constituency, although the consequent rise in racial tension would sadly be significant. Is that what you want?

As for being an alternative to new Labour, Respect have won fewer seats outside of Muslim areas than the IWCA - on your logic, the IWCA would represent a sustained threat to new Labour.

As usual on any political issue, you best resemble a weathervane, blowing in all directions, the only consistent elements being your certainty, pomposity and political isolation from everyone except those you grovel to.

 

[The Black Hand]

I doubt even Respect would have the nerve to claim they can defeat the BNP electorally. Certainly the BNP would welcome Respect candidates against them in every constituency, although the consequent rise in racial tension would sadly be significant. Is that what you want?

As for being an alternative to new Labour, Respect have won fewer seats outside of Muslim areas than the IWCA - on your logic, the IWCA would represent a sustained threat to new Labour.

As usual on any political issue, you best resemble a weathervane, blowing in all directions, the only consistent elements being your certainty, pomposity and political isolation from everyone except those you grovel to.

No - you miss the point dimwit. THose election results were particularly good, maybe the exception but my comments were confined to those results alone... Far from blowing like a weathervane you will find that I closely follow the contours of reality rather than you and your orthodox and stupid politicos who try to force every factor/difficult issue into preconceived notions of the social world... when clearly these results go against your preconceived ideas... when confronted by awkward reality you are left with blustering to try and reinforce your pathetic worldview, such reductionism is like Stalinism, and you can stick that where the sun don't shine...

It is you who are isolated - not me, I test my ideas beyond the stupid ultra left and anarchists, unlike you, who can't write anything serious at all. You are the 'big fish' in a very shallow and confined tank that can't cope with the real world, with people who do not lick arse and who might question all the stupid ultra left assumptions you are basing your pathetic ideas upon. FOAD.

 

[pingupete]

Green summary. The dust has settled and we have 20 net gains this year. Sadly there were 4 losses (2 were recent defectors) but we'll have the capacity to come back on these.

Last year we also made 20 net gains, and obviously next year we need to do the same again (at least). English Green total of Principal Local Authority Councillors is now 113 with a load more parish councillors.

The Scots won 5 seats in Glasgow and 3 in Edinburgh, so that will be 121 if the totals are put together, which we might do for the purposes of the LGA.

 

[lewislewis]

How did the SSP and Solidarity do in Scottish locals?

 

[belboid]

shit


1 each in glasgow

 

[Portia]

No - you miss the point dimwit. THose election results were particularly good, maybe the exception but my comments were confined to those results alone... Far from blowing like a weathervane you will find that I closely follow the contours of reality rather than you and your orthodox and stupid politicos who try to force every factor/difficult issue into preconceived notions of the social world... when clearly these results go against your preconceived ideas... when confronted by awkward reality you are left with blustering to try and reinforce your pathetic worldview, such reductionism is like Stalinism, and you can stick that where the sun don't shine...

It is you who are isolated - not me, I test my ideas beyond the stupid ultra left and anarchists, unlike you, who can't write anything serious at all. You are the 'big fish' in a very shallow and confined tank that can't cope with the real world, with people who do not lick arse and who might question all the stupid ultra left assumptions you are basing your pathetic ideas upon. FOAD.

i don't know who the dimwit was what you're referring to here, but i thought this was a particualrly good post.

 

[The Black Hand]

i don't know who the dimwit was what you're referring to here, but i thought this was a particualrly good post.

Just to help you, it was aimed at Paul, but all the ultra Left and anarchos who think in such a reductionist manner would be included too... and yes, it is a good post, thanks....

 

[Tom A]

Big up for the Greens in Lancaster (University ward gone from Lib Dem to Green), they are now the joint second largest party with the Tories and Morecambe Bay Independents. BNP did pretty shite in Skerton West, Labour easily taking the three seats.

My friend who stood as a Green also did well in Keele ward, Newcastle-under-Lyme, coming in second place, 30 behind the Lib Dems, where Labour came second-to-last, UKIP bringing up the rear whilst managing to treble their vote from the previous election... to 32.

 

[The Black Hand]

This is good news;

http://york.indymedia.org.uk/node/493

It just shows you what good sense people can have when you approach anarchism without an agenda... here it was common sense to tell the BNP to get out of the area - it was achievable and could draw several people into the action. If you had started with a 'lets kick his head in line' this would probably have made you look just as bad as them in front of 'ordanary anti fascists' eyes... It's all very British I know, but from small acorns and all that.

 

[liampreston]

I have to congratulate Respect (and I don't do that lightly! ) for their result in Preston. I don't think, from memory, any candidate in the Central ward or Town Centre ward to get a) so many votes in an ordinary election year, or b) such an increase in number of votes (440 to over 1,000).

We plucky LibDems won one, lost one, and held up well elsewhere except Deepdale, which I admit was a rather disastorous result for us, losing 30% of the share of the vote on the previous year.

Across the city as a whole, the parties got as below in Preston with the total vote in the new constituency boundaries in brackets...

Con - 12,186 (3,779 in new boundaries of const)
Lab - 8,299 (6,614)
LibDem - 6,566 (3,683)
Respect - 1,941 (1,941)
Green - 63 (63)
Ind - 840 (840)

 

[Fisher_Gate]

I have to congratulate Respect (and I don't do that lightly! ) for their result in Preston. I don't think, from memory, any candidate in the Central ward or Town Centre ward to get a) so many votes in an ordinary election year, or b) such an increase in number of votes (440 to over 1,000).

We plucky LibDems won one, lost one, and held up well elsewhere except Deepdale, which I admit was a rather disastorous result for us, losing 30% of the share of the vote on the previous year.

Across the city as a whole, the parties got as below in Preston with the total vote in the new constituency boundaries in brackets...

Con - 12,186 (3,779 in new boundaries of const)
Lab - 8,299 (6,614)
LibDem - 6,566 (3,683)
Respect - 1,941 (1,941)
Green - 63 (63)
Ind - 840 (840)

The Respect vote went up in St Matts and Riversway too.

If you add the three left wing anti-establishment votes together (Respect/Green/Ind) then it clearly indicates a fourth force to rival the Lab/Tory/LibDems in Preston politics. The Respect vote in Town Centre and Riversway combined was also enough to win the County Council Central Division and elect a Lancashire County Councillor (next up in 2009). Respect will be back to take the next City Council Town Centre seat in 2008 - hopefully Mukhtar will win it.

Hats off to the LibDems on improving your vote in University ward, btw. I was completely wrong in my predictions there! Obviously we need to have to have a post mortem on what went wrong. But I'm afraid the best man won in Tulketh. Robert Boswell was finance chief under Val Wise's leadership in the mid-90s, and hopefully he will move the Labour Group several notches to the left, following your own party's ousting of the current finance chief.