Egypt anti-government protests grow

Discussion in 'world politics, current affairs and news' started by stuff_it, Jan 25, 2011.

  1. stuff_it

    stuff_it stirred the primordial soup

  2. TomUS

    TomUS non-resident

    Mubarak & co seem to have a very strong police state. Stronger than Tunisia had. And Egypt got good at holding elections that appeared not quite as much of a sham as those in Tunisia. Another major factor is US aid. The US would keep the bucks flowing only if an uprising resulted in a gov that was acceptable to it. If the resistance is purely secular, the aid would probably keep coming.
     
  3. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    FFS - stuff kicking off is not anonymous bigging their censorious arse up. This is not politics. Do you want to talk about Egpyt? About the social conditions? About what's actually going on?
     
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  4. stuff_it

    stuff_it stirred the primordial soup

    People protesting in the streets and setting fire to themselves does not = kicking off?

    :confused:
     
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  5. dylans

    dylans overlord of all acorns

    Twitter is reporting demonstrations in Cairo . Cops everywhere.
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  6. dylans

    dylans overlord of all acorns

    This is about more than anon. Today is a national day of protest and demonstrations are called across the country.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/24/egypt-day-revolution-protests

    Collected twitter tweets on the day of protest can be viewed live here
    http://www.polethecon.nl/?p=collected-tweets-and-background-on-egypts-january-25-protests
     
  7. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Stuff is happening in Egypt. Putting it under the anonymous banner is to spit in the faces of those out there doing stuff. Ir's massively insulting, high handed and frankly mad.
     
  8. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

  9. stuff_it

    stuff_it stirred the primordial soup

    Thank you dylans, was about to post that up.

    Here's one from earlier, police waiting for protests. I quite want the truck on the right, but that's by the by really.

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    Butchers, unless you are about to get on a plane sharpish and go on the streets of Egypt....well some people like to actually *do* something, y'know.
     
  10. Citizen66

    Citizen66 splash the cistern

    Your opening post was an anonymous flier and an unrelated link.
     
  11. Streathamite

    Streathamite ideological dogmatist

    It's tomorrow that is "the day of revolution".
    However, having seen the egyptian cops and security forces close up, the day of "the army and police cracking down very hard indeed" is prolly more likely. Due to the MB situation (as I understand it) and similar islamist groups that never haad as much strength in tunisia, the egyptian state is way more authoritarian and brutal.
    This ain't gonna be good :(
     
  12. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    That's today mate.

    The MB's are being alternately suffocated by the regime embracing them and destroying their credibility as a result and outright crackdown. The same tactics the regime is employing for anyone with any forces.
     
  13. stuff_it

    stuff_it stirred the primordial soup

    "Hope that Jan. 25 Demonstrations May Mark a New Direction for Egypt" - yes, definitely unrelated link, that.

    Sorry the flier was so big, i'm no good at resizing stuff :oops:
     
  14. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

  15. dylans

    dylans overlord of all acorns

    Do keep up. Today is tomorrow ;)

    (and though I agree the Egyptian state is pretty rough on demonstrations, it's not like you to be so pessimistic.)
     
  16. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    I apologise for being tetchy earlier. Doing too many things at once and don't like anonymous.
     
  17. stuff_it

    stuff_it stirred the primordial soup

  18. Citizen66

    Citizen66 splash the cistern

    Unrelated to anonymous. :p
     
  19. stuff_it

    stuff_it stirred the primordial soup

    You have all the info you need on the flier to get started on that! :D

    The link was to kick off with some background info, for people that don't know about the demos and that.
     
  20. Citizen66

    Citizen66 splash the cistern

    I'm assuming they're recruiting for a denial of service attack, which isn't quite the same as street protests and for different reasons. Anonymous don't have a political position other than opposing censorship afaik.
     
  21. stuff_it

    stuff_it stirred the primordial soup

    Then you haven't looked into it properly or the reasons behind the position. IRC thataway >>>>>>


    Censorship is historically one of the first things to go when govts go bad, and is also a big waving flag that a govt is repressing or thinking of repressing its people, or is likely to do so (or do so more in the near future)

    Is not just about the right to look at kitteh pr0n, nor is it 'just 4chan'
     
  22. dylans

    dylans overlord of all acorns

    [​IMG]

    Outside Supreme Court
     
  23. Citizen66

    Citizen66 splash the cistern

    Perhaps not. But I know a band-wagon hopping group when I see one. Last week wikileaks, this week Egypt.
     
  24. stuff_it

    stuff_it stirred the primordial soup

    Yes there is a lot of bandwagon hopping by some of the people involved, but that is not all there is to it by a long shot. Any movement that inclusive will ahve a huge variety of people and involvement levels.

    Remember you are coming at it from a position of someone living in a fairly unrestricted country, censorship wise. How would you feel if it were different?
     
  25. Citizen66

    Citizen66 splash the cistern

    I'm not opposed to anonymous. I just don't see why they're piggy backing on the back of everything in the headlines to the extent that they get a heads up in an op about a matter completely unrelated to them. The kudos goes to the folk on the streets risking their lives and liberty; not bored youth in western bedrooms using some software and at relatively low risk of Egypt's security services to come knocking at their door.
     
  26. stuff_it

    stuff_it stirred the primordial soup

    Just think you need to look into it more before going on like that, yes it *is* about 'people using a bit of software', but is also much more than that going on.
     
  27. Citizen66

    Citizen66 splash the cistern

    Perhaps i do. But answer me a question. Is 'anonymous' involved in orchestrating or taking part in the Egyptian uprising on the streets in Egypt? If yes then I apologise and stand corrected. If no then perhaps the anonymous action deserves a thread of its own and this should be for what's going on in Egypt.
     
  28. dylans

    dylans overlord of all acorns

    2 thousand people reported in Tahrir Sq in the centre of Cairo. Smaller demonstrations reported around the country.

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  29. stuff_it

    stuff_it stirred the primordial soup

    Oooh Dylans, you so fast with the pics - you must have a good source :)
     
  30. ohmyliver

    ohmyliver poppin' like a cork

    be very careful about the twitpic links, as I clicked on one posted to the #jan25 hashtag and it turned out to be very NSFW hardcore pornography...
     

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