education to be for rich only

[marty21]

thanks for your opinion RE thread topic

actually

i sorta agree with you apart from your really tired effort to make newshamebore a popular term

it's too chunky and will never catch on, apart from when people take the piss out of you for using it

I went to university in 1984, full grant, no fees, left with a £700 overdraft in 1988, it was the only way a working class kid like myself could have attended uni, no way would i have gone if there had been fees and loans, I wouldn't want to starting my working life owing £30k even if it is a low interest loan

 

[fogbat]

 

[tarannau]

If this thread title is to be believed. Brassic must be the poorest man in the country.

 

[marty21]

If this thread title is to be believed. Brassic must be the poorest man in the country.

while he may lack money, he has enough love for the whole world

 

[teuchter]

I am going to try starting virtual daytime drinking like brasicritique and see if it affects my posting style.

 

[bluestreak]

Start your working life in debt. Gotta work it off. Too poor for uni? have a student loan, gwan, they're cheaper than from the banks and we can take the money straight out of your paye. Plus you can't even get rid of it by going bankrupt. This ones for life.

It's not directly about making education for the rich, it's about transfering as much money to banks and universities as possible and about treating people as cash cows. It's about finding previously uncharted revenue supplies (i.e. the poor - see also the cheap credit problem that got us into the current economic mess).

 

[kyser_soze]

OK, let's start with the govts stated aim of getting 50% of people into HE. Can you genuinely maintain a standard of excellence in degrees when half the country is expected to get one? Or would it make more sense to drop this idiotic target, make entry harder and use the money saved to bring FMGs back?

Re: Student Loans Company...taffy, it has a huge default/deferred payment loan book; it's loans are offered at the prevailing rate of inflation, not interest (so people getting them this year will be paying less than 3%. Hardly a bankers stitch up of the kind you're talking about, but still ultimately wrong.

Loans for tuition fees are bollocks; loans for maintenance grants I'm generally in the 'their bollocks' camp, but think that they should be means tested based on hhold income.

Raising the cost for fees is unconscionable, not to mention really fucking stupid.

 

[marty21]

I am going to try starting virtual daytime drinking like brasicritique and see if it affects my posting style.

on topic please

 

[teuchter]

on topic please

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=283195

 

[brasicritique]

actually

i sorta agree with you

you either think education should be free for all or not so i could not care less if you agree with me or not

apart from your really tired effort to make newshamebore a popular term

FYI never tried to make it a popular term i just enjoy using it as opposed to doing what the herd do like you do

it's too chunky and will never catch on, apart from when people take the piss out of you for using it

Like i give a fuck what you think and like i will change what i post becuase of what other people think. Yourve just revealed your basic insecurity.Get out more

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I went to university in 1984, full grant, no fees, left with a £700 overdraft in 1988, it was the only way a working class kid like myself could have attended uni, no way would i have gone if there had been fees and loans, I wouldn't want to starting my working life owing £30k even if it is a low interest loan

ah so that explains why your such a wannabe cunt .

 

[marty21]

you either think education should be free for all or not so i could not care less if you agree with me or not


FYI never tried to make it a popular term i just enjoy using it as opposed to doing what the herd do like you do



Like i give a fuck what you think and like i will change what i post becuase of what other people think. Yourve just revealed your basic insecurity.Get out more



ah so that explains why your such a wannabe cunt .

i love you brassy! x

 

[brasicritique]

while he may lack money, he has enough love for the whole world

maybe if you had a love life you wouldnt need the acceptance of the posters

 

[ViolentPanda]

The question that needs to be asked is why universities are considering upping fees.
I suspect that part of it has to do with the govt having carved away several chunks of funding over the last three years that universities haven't been able to make up for in any other way.

 

[fractionMan]

Seems a bit shit to me, but hardly unexpected.

 

[fogbat]

He's like an elderly relative. Senile, grumpy and stinks of piss, but you can't help but feel affection for the old git

 

[brasicritique]

i love you brassy! x

i know

 

[marty21]

maybe if you had a love life you wouldnt need the acceptance of the posters

xx

 

[brasicritique]

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=283195

Well i admit i did not bother to visist that forum as no one really ever does Hence incorrect thread title in this forum . if your going ot be so anal then PM the mods and tell them they should move the welfare reform threads there as well shit lover

 

[_angel_]

I don't think I'd have gone to university if I was 18 today.

 

[brasicritique]

xx

x

 

[marty21]

He's like an elderly relative. Senile, grumpy and stinks of piss, but you can't help but feel affection for the old git

he came around ours at christmas and pissed on the cat

 

[kyser_soze]

See where actually engaging with the thread topic gets you? Nowhere.

 

[brasicritique]

He's like an elderly relative. Senile, grumpy and stinks of piss, but you can't help but feel affection for the old git

Well if thats how your family both treat and think of the elderly, then no wonder you have turned out to be such a worthless cunt

 

[fogbat]

he came around ours at christmas and pissed on the cat

What?

Sorry, I was talking about you, Marty

 

[fractionMan]

See where actually engaging with the thread topic gets you? Nowhere.

the other thread is better.

 

[fogbat]

Well if thats how your family both treat and think of the elderly, then no wonder you have turned out to be such a worthless cunt

With affection?

 

[kyser_soze]

the other thread is better.

Maybe we need to start agreeing with him more forcefully or something.

 

[marty21]

What?

Sorry, I was talking about you, Marty

i have never pissed on a cat, to my knowledge

 

[brasicritique]

See where actually engaging with the thread topic gets you? Nowhere.

you snide groveling cunt i see ou have not bothered to enage either with this thread or your brain still nice to know i have got soooooo much under your skin you just had to make a post like this

 

[kyser_soze]

OK, let's start with the govts stated aim of getting 50% of people into HE. Can you genuinely maintain a standard of excellence in degrees when half the country is expected to get one? Or would it make more sense to drop this idiotic target, make entry harder and use the money saved to bring FMGs back?

Re: Student Loans Company...taffy, it has a huge default/deferred payment loan book; it's loans are offered at the prevailing rate of inflation, not interest (so people getting them this year will be paying less than 3%. Hardly a bankers stitch up of the kind you're talking about, but still ultimately wrong.

Loans for tuition fees are bollocks; loans for maintenance grants I'm generally in the 'they're bollocks' camp, but think that they should be means tested based on hhold income.

Raising the cost for fees is unconscionable, not to mention really fucking stupid.

No, I haven't engaged with the thread topic at all, except to broadly agree with you.