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Discussion in 'protest, direct action and demos' started by Das Uberdog, Oct 31, 2010.

  1. Corax

    Corax Read my blog you bastards.

    I don't 'blame' her as an individual tbh. She was clearly angry, and I know full well how that kind of anger can turn the most eloquent people into incoherent shouty idiots. I kept wanting someone else to step in and take over, but there's a whole separate politics in play there - especially as everyone around her appeared to be male. Very frustrating to watch though.
     
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  2. cantsin

    cantsin Well-Known Member

    all true
     
  3. bimble

    bimble uber-hippy twonk peanut

    If it hadn't gone so badly - if she'd been able to put in a good argument - we'd probably never have seen it, as Oik says it's 'the patriots' who get to cover these things on YouTube and social media.
     
  4. cantsin

    cantsin Well-Known Member

    though on other hand, the idea that the Manc march was some broad based anti hate / anti jihadist march is prob giving it more credit than it deserves :

     
  5. malatesta32

    malatesta32 Not Serb. No, Really!

    2 things: many antifa do not carry cameras lest they get seized and incriminating footage is culled before editing and obscuring faces. We had loads of photos/footage of demos but deleted it all etc. ages ago which is why we never put them on the blog but use MSM ones.
    the demo on sunday was a total surprise. there were people clearly confused about the real nature of it, ie, EDL, TRs little slags (even Beaker KKKev Karol turned out) and expressed genuine concern over terror incidents.
    there was a counter demo by gay community and UAF who no doubt expected the usual 200.
    the main question is, can they repeat it? there are many who will not stand with TR but counting on the far right to fragment every 3 weeks is hardly strategy.
    i'm sure the omniscient Butchers (who runs the world wide digitised super-highway) will have all the answers.
     
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  6. Sweet FA

    Sweet FA ✪ Three rounds Lord, in my .44 ✪

    Tag him and find out rather than have a snide dig.
     
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  7. Red Sky

    Red Sky It was like that when I got here.



    We'll find out in London in a fortnight.
     
  8. Red Sky

    Red Sky It was like that when I got here.

    The Left has certainly held demos in favour of the Kurdish struggle.

    Against the burkha and sharia law? How would that work in practice? Do we want the situation we had in France where it ended up with armed police forcing women to strip on the beach?
     
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  9. Corax

    Corax Read my blog you bastards.

    Who, butchersapron ? :confused:

    *walks away whistling* :D
     
  10. malatesta32

    malatesta32 Not Serb. No, Really!

    there are very few on here as snidey as that fuckbiscuit.
     
  11. malatesta32

    malatesta32 Not Serb. No, Really!

    he's pulled out.
     
  12. Red Sky

    Red Sky It was like that when I got here.

    Postponed. Still in London this week we have Crossland's EDL and something new called the "Football Lads Alliance" or "Football Lads against Extremism"
     
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  13. 19force8

    19force8 For the avoidance of faith

    Can't make that, but in Brum next weekend we have Britain Farts.
     
  14. The39thStep

    The39thStep Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbour?

    Care to expand on that ?
     
  15. The39thStep

    The39thStep Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbour?

    Or where women in Iran wear white to protest about compulsory head scarfs ?
     
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  16. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    "He makes me feel uncomfortable".
     
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  17. no-no

    no-no Small robot you know

    What are FIT and Redwatch?
     
  18. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist my world is fire and blood

    police intelligence officers- they film and stalk.
    Redwatch is assorted fash stalking left wingers, often completely getting details wrong but there you go
     
  19. no-no

    no-no Small robot you know

    gothca, cheers
     
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  20. The39thStep

    The39thStep Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbour?

    You are right the British left has weakness and its ability not to recognise its weakness is probably its biggest especially its inate ability to cosy up to many Muslim organisations simply because they are muslim rather than for their politics. Whether this be with the Labour Party for votes, or the SWP for 'united fronts of a special kind' or just the general swamp type of we'll back anything anyone if it looks like its opposed to America its record is emabarassing. Seperate seating arrangements for men and women, platforms with CAGE, platforms with MAB, backing and even worse defending Luftar Rahman, the entire RESPECT project, an appauling silence on FGM, and an utter failure to confront reactionary preachers, would be jihaadist groups and those who are against the rights that we as the workling class and left fought for.
     
  21. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    RESPECT ran them into the ground as racist. It was anarchists and non-dom - types who did it. Same as UBA shit.
     
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  22. Red Sky

    Red Sky It was like that when I got here.

    That's a movement that's emerged directly from the people affected by Irans compulsory hijab laws. Is there a UK equivalent that you're aware of?
     
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  23. The39thStep

    The39thStep Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbour?

    I am not going to spoonfeed you , have a look at some of the discussions by Muslims in the UK on the net , on Twitter about how the Islamacists and conservatives have been allowed to dominate the agenda very often aided by the left
     
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  24. Red Sky

    Red Sky It was like that when I got here.

    How's your support going?
     
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  25. Ranbay

    Ranbay The same rules apply

    Just watching Tommy on GMB lolololololol
     
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  26. stethoscope

    stethoscope Well-Known Member

    Don't be a dick. Butchers experience and insight is worth a hundred of yours.
     
  27. malatesta32

    malatesta32 Not Serb. No, Really!

    )*( fuck off clueless sycophant.
     
  28. Ptolemy

    Ptolemy like an unwound clock, I just don't seem to care.

    This is the problem with uncritical "anti-imperialist" projects. The enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend. To be true to socialist politics means to fight all injustice on every front - wherever and whatever it may be.

    When you see or hear people referring to "Comrade Mugabe", you know something's gone horribly wrong somewhere.
     
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  29. killer b

    killer b Ennui Rollins

    Surely none but the truly deranged would refer to comrade Mugabe? The something that's gone wrong there isn't in the British left...

    While there is a great deal of sloppy thinking on the left, I think There's also an issue with the views of fringe nutcases being given more prominence than they should be.
     
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  30. Ptolemy

    Ptolemy like an unwound clock, I just don't seem to care.

    Not necessarily the British left, although I have seen it in some nominally "leftist" places online.

    Perhaps too much of a fringe example, a better one might be the divide over the Ba'athist regime in Syria (though the rise of the Syrian Kurds has given a more positive force to rally behind in that particular conflict) And yes, the more "out there" elements tend to be louder or more noticeable than the majority of the left. It just feels sometimes though that there's too much binary thinking about issues like this, and not enough nuanced judgement.
     

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