Eavis trys to trademark the word "Glastonbury"

[Eddi]

well im dissapointed with how the festival 'scene' seems to be going,can nothing be pure anymore?
everything has to be glossy and totally commercialised.
I personally think that micheal evis is getting caught up in too much commercial bullshit and the money needed to trademark should be spent elsewhere in the local community of Glastonbury.
But i suppose hes been there and done that one???

i fear for Glastonbury Festival.

 

[Eddi]

plus everyone seems to think there are no fat cats involved in glasto fezzi.
guess again!

 

[david dissadent]

well im dissapointed with how the festival 'scene' seems to be going,can nothing be pure anymore?
everything has to be glossy and totally commercialised.
I personally think that micheal evis is getting caught up in too much commercial bullshit and the money needed to trademark should be spent elsewhere in the local community of Glastonbury.
But i suppose hes been there and done that one???

i fear for Glastonbury Festival.

Its a pittance to trademark a festivals name. I can be a harsh critic of aspects of the festival but there is nothing wrong with this. Without it Glastonbury Festivals name could be used to sell double glazing and the festival would have no recourse to prevent them.

 

[Dubversion]

plus everyone seems to think there are no fat cats involved in glasto fezzi.
guess again!

who's said that? anywhere?

i think you're putting words into people's mouths. On Urban i think you'll find a very high level of awareness of the infrastructure of Glastonbury and its attendant drawbacks.

 

[Dubversion]

please dont feel you have to grace me with your posts, glastonbury is fuckin shite nowadays, its not a festival its make a killin cash carnival

i think that's nonsense, to be honest. I can't be arsed to go over all this again - why the Mean Fiddler had to become involved for the festival to survive into this millenium, why sponsorship is unfortunate but actually very minimal. But the bottom line is that nothing stays the same, and modern Glastonbury is much more like old Glastonbury than it is like any other over-corporate alternative - Reading, V Festival etc....

I started going to Glastonbury in the mid-80s. next year will be something like my 18th. Yes it's changed. No, it's not perfect. But it's still fucking brilliant and away from the mainstage and the estate agents in jesters hats queuing up for Hog Roasts, there's pretty much all the elements that have always made Glastonbury special.

 

[William of Walworth]

plus everyone seems to think there are no fat cats involved in glasto fezzi.
guess again!

Reread my fucking post. Polarising twat.

 

[Dubversion]

btw, didn't mean to sound dismissive with the 'can't be bothered to go over all this again' line, but these arguments have been done to death, mebbes dig up last year's glastonbury thread, it's all in there.

nobody's pretending that Glastonbury is a commerce-free beacon of anti-capitalist purity. I just think Eavis has done the best he can to keep a balance between idealism and real world pressures.

 

[William of Walworth]

Yes it's changed. No, it's not perfect. But it's still fucking brilliant and away from the mainstage and the estate agents in jesters hats queuing up for Hog Roasts, there's pretty much all the elements that have always made Glastonbury special.

Absolutely ....

I'll be back next year too ...

only my 12th, though

 

[Dubversion]

Reread my fucking post. Polarising twat.

i think Eddi thinks that they know the 'truth', whereas we are deluded fools. or something

 

[goldenecitrone]

I'm just totally sick of the creeping corporatism that has taken over the Glastonbury Festival in the last few years. It's just turned into a greed-filled, Mammon worshipping excuse for City boys to put on their false dreadlocks and lie around in the mud for a few days. Glastonbury is over. Long live the Big Chill.

 

[Eddi]

very sorry

listen i take back what has been said,is not as if i live in glastonbury town or anything

 

[Eddi]

well actually....

 

[Eddi]

out with the big words,we dont want infrastructure at glastonbury festival lol

 

[Eddi]

also i dont think underground forums a place for polliticians,


FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

 

[Eddi]

also i dont think underground forums a place for polliticians,


FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

 

[laptop]

If you were going to organise an ultra-pure festy with no money allowed on site, performers turned away if anyone other than their mother recognises them...

...let's say it's called Totnes...

...then it would be an especially good idea to trademark "Totnes" for the purposes of music festivals and music-related tat.

To stop corporate types using the name if it gets famous.

Neither the Totnes Copper Kettle Tea Room nor Totnes Funeral Home is affected. Not until it tries to set up a rival music festy, anyway.

 

[Dubversion]

also i dont think underground forums a place for polliticians,


FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

what the buggery are you banging on about?

 

[William of Walworth]

also i dont think underground forums a place for polliticians,


FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

Absolutely.

You're free to come out with a cretinous statement that 'we' are 'all' defending Glastonbury to the death and have nothing bad whatsoever to say about it.

We're free to say you're a wanker for polarising (trolling?) like this ...

That's how it works, idiotbrain.

This statement was sponsored by Ansheuser Busch (Budweiser) Inc. .... The Official Beer of the Glastonbury Festival, as famously drunken all the time by William of Walworth ......

 

[ck]

If the Glastonbury Festival is all love and hugs , why do they care about other organzations using their name ? I mean , how do they get to copyright the word "Glastonbury" in the first place ? Should I start the "London Festival" and then kick off at everyone using the word "London" ?

I may well be in the dark here so don't shoot me down folks ; I've never been to the festival and yet I know I'd enjoy it , so I'm not anti-Glastonbury in the first place...

And someone mentioned "long live The Big Chill" ; I love BChill , but it's becoming as corporate as the next man these days as well...

 

[moose]

My feeling is that if the ageing Mr Eavis decided to cease turning over his home to the masses, someone else would immediately rent a shitload of land in the Somerset area, put on a heavily-sponsored, well-attended show and call it the Glastonbury Festival, meanwhile pocketing the proceeds themselves, and not giving a penny to local tithe barns, cricket pavilions or whatever other community concerns Eavis has supported in the past.

 

[Dubversion]

I do worry what will happen when Michael goes. I know people who know Emily pretty well and they're not sure she'll be as resistant as Michael to some of these things.

Although a little bird on these very boards told me it's actually her brother - who IS pretty sensible - who'll really run things

 

[William of Walworth]

And someone mentioned "long live The Big Chill" ; I love BChill , but it's becoming as corporate as the next man these days as well...

That was goldencitrone's 'ideosyncratic' sense of humour kicking in ...

And what moose said.

 

[kyser_soze]

Jesus - does the purist hippy mob think Glasto exists in some kind of bubble where the real world doesn't have any affect on it?

Trademarking the name is a sensible move to protect the name of the festival as everyone here has pointed out, and does not mean it's 'sold out' to The Man, simply that Eavis is looking to ensure that the name itself remains unsullied by anyone else looking for a bit of 'fame by association - and given the far higher media profile the festival has had over the last few years (it's always been there, but never as much reported as it has been the last few years in the mainstream press) it's an eminently sensible move.

 

[Dubversion]

exactly. there's been a fair bit of websquatting using glastonbury's name, for example

 

[kyser_soze]

What gets me is it's like 'OOO!! Trademark!! Must've sold out' response - trademarking means nothing of the sort, merely that you want to protect something you have - some companies are aggressive about it, most just want to keep their product/service/brand protected from those who might cause harm (and it doesn't stop people using trademarked goods & services for the purposes of humour etc either - vis: Mattell vs. Slutbarbie.com)

 

[Larry O'Hara]

Typical but..

disgusting that this Eavis character should try and get ownership to a name for a town that pre-exists him by hundreds of years.

And there is little 'freedom of expression' at Glastonbury either--censorship is ruthlessly used to prevent those outside the Dead Left 'consensus' ever getting a stall there. So fuck him & them.

 

[kyser_soze]

disgusting that this Eavis character should try and get ownership to a name for a town that pre-exists him by hundreds of years

He's not - he's applying to tm the name 'Glastonbury Festival', not 'Glastonbury'. World of difference.

And there is little 'freedom of expression' at Glastonbury either--censorship is ruthlessly used to prevent those outside the Dead Left 'consensus' ever getting a stall there. So fuck him & them.

I like you Larry - you wear you bitterness proudly and openly on your sleeve. If only more were like that.

 

[Dubversion]

disgusting that this Eavis character should try and get ownership to a name for a town that pre-exists him by hundreds of years.

he's not, you dullard. But then facts were never your strong point, were they?

And there is little 'freedom of expression' at Glastonbury either--censorship is ruthlessly used to prevent those outside the Dead Left 'consensus' ever getting a stall there. So fuck him & them.

yeh! sock it to 'em, Larry. You're a fucking hero, mate.

 

[Larry O'Hara]

He's not - he's applying to tm the name 'Glastonbury Festival', not 'Glastonbury'. World of difference.



I like you Larry - you wear you bitterness proudly and openly on your sleeve. If only more were like that.

1) If you go back to the original post, it gives link to a BBC news item which mentions that he is not only seeking copyright on the term 'Glastonbury Festival' (which I have no objection to), but the word Glastonbury: which I do. Strongly.

2) If you are telling me that the BBC has misreported his claim (unlikely in this instance), I stand corrected.

3) Bitter is not a word I am familiar with--except in a glass. All sweetness & light me

 

[William of Walworth]

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