East London Line Phase 2 Confirmed
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teuchter
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Well, it would be interesting to know whether it's just due to the cost of extra platforms or down to operational reasons.
Actually, I think I came up with almost exactly the same plan last time we were discussing this, techter:
There must be something we're missing here. It's too obvious.
What's too obvious?
As a part-time Forest Hill resident, I would certainly like a Brixton stop. It's ridiculously difficult to move 'laterally' across south london. The P4 single decker bus service is a joke. Going north to go south, via a ELL2 Urban 75 special express, would be preferable!
quimcunx
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teuchter
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Yes. Getting from Brixton to somewhere like Deptford is a real pain.
hipipol
Peckham Wry
I cant see any move on Brixton happening soon
As the proposed Surrey Canal Station seems to have been pulled I think it unlikely that any wedge will be spent on Brixton I afraid
http://londonreconnections.blogspot.com/2009/01/surrey-canal-doubts.html
As the proposed Surrey Canal Station seems to have been pulled I think it unlikely that any wedge will be spent on Brixton I afraid
http://londonreconnections.blogspot.com/2009/01/surrey-canal-doubts.html
dynamicbaddog
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Crispy
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Surrey Canal Road is still up for grabs. Thing is, it'll be integrated with the bridge over the road, so if it doesn't get built now, it never will (for a long time anyway). TFL are doing a feasibility study or something. Personally, I reckon a way will be found.
Does anyone know what platform at Clapham Junction this new ELL2 will terminate at?
Would be good if it was the one adjoining the other 'Overground' line at CJ which heads north to Kensington Olympia, to make more of an 'interchange', otherwise CJ can be a bit of a schlep....
Would be good if it was the one adjoining the other 'Overground' line at CJ which heads north to Kensington Olympia, to make more of an 'interchange', otherwise CJ can be a bit of a schlep....
Wolveryeti
Detty Pig
Ain't it true. You'd have thought they could have extended it a few stops north.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
I'm not sure that making it adjacent to the other overground platform necessarily makes sense, as people arriving at clapham junction are surely just as likely to be continuing their journeys with any of the other services from there.
I suppose so. Except TFL are half-marketing it as an overground Circle line for outer London, in which case the interchanges at stations need to be fairly adjacent.
I a few weeks ago caught the London Bridge to Victoria train from Forest Hill to CJ, to change at CJ onto the Overground to Olympia. I had four minutes according to the timetable, miraculously the trains arrived/left on time, but four minutes was only just enough to disembark, find the info for which platform I needed (the furthest away physically possible) and sprint it. Big station, Clapham Junciont.
davesgcr
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I think its no 1 platform reinstated - involving an "interesting" * trip via the low level lines from Wandsworth Road to Clapham Jct. Too much through traffic for the South via Platform 17 to allow standing trains to reverse direction there.
*Interesting to some - you will understand if you are on of these people
Re Brixton High level or East Brixton - its been re-worked many times and always comes out too expensive / difficult etc - but lets be positive - once the service is up and running - extra station(s) can be added if it fits the timetable and funding can be found. (viz - West London line which has had 2 extra stations added - and its only been running as a 30 min service for 12 years - and its now 5 trains per hour - and all very busy !)
*Interesting to some - you will understand if you are on of these people
Re Brixton High level or East Brixton - its been re-worked many times and always comes out too expensive / difficult etc - but lets be positive - once the service is up and running - extra station(s) can be added if it fits the timetable and funding can be found. (viz - West London line which has had 2 extra stations added - and its only been running as a 30 min service for 12 years - and its now 5 trains per hour - and all very busy !)
PacificOcean
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I think its no 1 platform reinstated - involving an "interesting" * trip via the low level lines from Wandsworth Road to Clapham Jct. Too much through traffic for the South via Platform 17 to allow standing trains to reverse direction there.
*Interesting to some - you will understand if you are on of these people
I wondered how it was going to get from Wandsworth Road to Clapham Junction. Aren't those low level tracks heavily used freight lines? There were always freight trains rumbling through Wandsworth Road when I used it.
I bet users of Wandsworth Road and Clapham High Street will be pissed off when this comes to fruition. A currently useful service to either Victoria or London Bridge replaced by a service to Clapham Junction or East London via a scenic route through South East London.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
*Interesting to some - you will understand if you are on of these people
I'm excited about it already...
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Is that service being completely withdrawn then?
PacificOcean
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I just assumed it was. I can't see Southern continuing to run a service over "London Overground" branded lines.
davesgcr
Reading books
The South London Rus reccomends a Victoria - Denmark Hill - Bellingham service with the ELLX extension.
The Ludgate lines and Battersea reversible lines will need some money spent on them to allow ELLX and freight to (happily) co-exist - more reversible lines and signalling - as those lines form a bolt hole for recessing and regulating freight trains off the West London line and the very busy SE London passenger routes.
The Ludgate lines and Battersea reversible lines will need some money spent on them to allow ELLX and freight to (happily) co-exist - more reversible lines and signalling - as those lines form a bolt hole for recessing and regulating freight trains off the West London line and the very busy SE London passenger routes.
Crispy
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Surrey Canal Road station has funding secured through conditions set as part of the planning permission now granted for redevelopment of the land around Miwall FC. The station is required to be complete within 2 years of ground being broken for the project. http://www.londonreconnections.com/2011/developer-funding-for-surrey-canal-road-agreed/
On the subject of Clapham Junction platforms: The old platform 1 track structure was found to be in much worse condition than thought and can't be rebuilt in the budget. Therefore, platform 2 will serve both routes, with a junctioni mid-platform to switch trains onto the middle track
On the subject of Clapham Junction platforms: The old platform 1 track structure was found to be in much worse condition than thought and can't be rebuilt in the budget. Therefore, platform 2 will serve both routes, with a junctioni mid-platform to switch trains onto the middle track
Crispy
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dynamicbaddog
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There's a new railway bridge over Surrey Canal Road, it went up a couple of weeks ago. Bloody nightmare living around here with all the work going on atm, I'll be glad when it's all finished.
Crispy
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There's going to a new station on the south side of that bridge. I wouldn't get your hopes up for a quiet life, either - that whole area around Surrey Canal Road and the staidum is going to be redeveloped. Homes, offices, shops, sports facilities. Big project.
dynamicbaddog
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recently there's been notices put up around the place about compulsory purchases on the Surrey Canal Road. Apparantly it's gonna look like this when it's finished
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