East Dulwich
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Streathamite
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yes, then I mean the EDT.milesy said:the last pub on lordship lane is the east dulwich tavern.
sorry.
the EDT.
and that's on the near end of lordship lane, the far end of LL is up by the harvester
Streathamite
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possibly. as you know, i lived in siddnum, so schlepped regularly around Forest ill and Dulwich, and I can't wait to do so again
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I wouldn't mind a Pizza Express or a Cafe Nero in Tulse Hill at all.zoltan69 said:*******BREAKING NEWS********
Looks like either M&S simply food or Pizza Express are going to be moving into Lordship lane when the lease comes up at a large Glazing shop soon............
Hmm, I suspect that the vocal minority will not consider Pizza Express or Simply food a "chain store" & not bother launching campaigns to halt the evil middle class food outlet expansion.......
The selection of shops here is truly fucking shocking. If Pizza Express and Cafe Nero-type establishments opening up in an area really means ''being gentrified'', I say gentrify away baby!
craigxcraig
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Red Jezza said:btw, anyone know the name of that pub wot's at the far end of lordship lane? y'know, last pub before the turn and then the climb up champions hill?
RJ - If its the one i'm thinking of then it could be Magdala?
Streathamite
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no it IS the EDT after all. you're about 150 yards too SE, iykwim...
lang rabbie
Je ne regrette les gazebos
zoltan69 said:
um... without being ungallant, you must have been a resident for a VERY long time - I've not heard East Dulwich described as working class, except when mentioned in the same breath as areas like Fulham which gentried back in the 1960s. IMHO it was one of those areas that used to have a rub-along mix of the "respectable" upper-working classes and lower middle classes, probably indistinguishable economically to a Marxist, but for an anthropologist quite fascinating completely different in their social mores.
And for at least twenty years from the 1970s to the mid 1990s, they were joined by a new group - one of East Dulwich larger occupational groups was surely solidly middle class public sector professionals such as teachers, social workers etc.
It's a mark of the madness of London's property market that two teachers on a combined income exceeding £60,000 would now be priced out of East Dulwich.
But quite a few of my Guardian reading aquaintances who scrambled onto the property ladder fifteen or more years ago were complicit in welcoming the arrival of a good local deli in the mid 1990s when several of the "traditional working class" shops on the Lane closed after the opening of the Dog Kennel Hill Sainsburys.
And where there is a good independent deli, city types (and coffee shops) will surely follow...
richtea
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According to my girlfriend, her mate got talking to a Lib Dem person out canvassing (as you do), who said that Cafe Nero allegedly had the planning application for the new place on Lordship Lane turned down, but went ahead regardless... will ask for more details and post back.zoltan69 said:
richtea
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OK - the Lib Dem person said something along the lines of: Caffe Nero had asked for permission to change the business premises from shop to food/drinkery and their application had been rejected, but they moved on in anyway and now council can/may shut them down.richtea said:
PacificOcean
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Minnie_the_Minx said:
What I don't get about this campaign is if these shops are so good, why are people not shopping there?
Places without chains are dire for shopping (ie places like Camberwell, Tulse Hill/West Norwood and Stockwell)
Camberwell misses WordsWorth though. That was a sad loss.
Sadly, it's not just about people not wanting to use small shops, it's also the fact that small shops - shorn of the manipulative power over suppliers and sheer economies of scale that the biggest companies have - can't hope to really compete on price either. It's hard for them to match the opening hours and parking advantages of the big stores too.
Not every small shop wants to be an overpriced boutique, but the way the supermarkets are encroaching into so many territories doesn't leave them too many options.
Sadly, it's not just about people not wanting to use small shops, it's also the fact that small shops - shorn of the manipulative power over suppliers and sheer economies of scale that the biggest companies have - can't hope to really compete on price either. It's hard for them to match the opening hours and parking advantages of the big stores too.
Not every small shop wants to be an overpriced boutique, but the way the supermarkets are encroaching into so many territories doesn't leave them too many options.
PacificOcean said:
camberwell is fine. what do you want? the West End or something?From what I hear Iceland is shutting down and being replaced by an M&S foodhall 
I hate the way it's changed in the last few years, all the proper pubs have been turned into over priced ponce holes and every other shop sells what I can only call "Dulwich Tat". North Cross road is full of them, all selling the same old useless crap for ridiculous amounts of money.
I grew up there and I used to absolutely love it but now I'm feckin glad to be leaving TBH. Which actually makes me quite sad.
The only place I will miss is inside72, it rocks.
I hate the way it's changed in the last few years, all the proper pubs have been turned into over priced ponce holes and every other shop sells what I can only call "Dulwich Tat". North Cross road is full of them, all selling the same old useless crap for ridiculous amounts of money.
I grew up there and I used to absolutely love it but now I'm feckin glad to be leaving TBH. Which actually makes me quite sad.
The only place I will miss is inside72, it rocks.
suzee blue cheese
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Inside72 is the Dog's.
Well worth going for the music alone, certainly if Mr Inside72's controlling the tunes
Well worth going for the music alone, certainly if Mr Inside72's controlling the tunes
you can get your kids ration books in there - think they sell in harrod's or somewhere like that too.tarannau said:
another vote for inside72 here too, only been in once, but cannonball was playing as we were leaving, inspired me to dig out my breeders cd when I got home
even though it does look a bit of a trendy place, it was a really nice atmosphere in there, and not too trendy - saw a couple of punters from the old pub I worked at in east dulwich, which is a proper family boozer, not slightly cool and neither are their clientele.tbh even though I live in east dulwich I probably only go to lordship lane 3 or 4 times a year - in a way I do love the poncey shops, but only to window shop and then I feel crap that I can't afford all the poncey tat
so I go to peckham instead, it's easier for me to jump on the bus than to try and lug shopping back from somerfield. (though I don't get to see jimmy nesbitt if I go to morrisons in peckham )PacificOcean
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guinnessdrinker said:
It doesn't have the choice of say Brixton or Peckham.
'kin hell.....I never knew there was such a support for Inside 72........Thats pissed on my chips, as they say.Well if thats the case, then in an effort to remain contrary, I propose we campaign to shut it down & lobby corney & barrow to open up a wine bar there.
thay will sort these cheeky independant go it alone upstarts out
thay will sort these cheeky independant go it alone upstarts out
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