earliest use of baseball bats as weapons?

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  1. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    the earliest report of the use of baseball bats as weapons i can find comes from this report from "the irishman" of 30 july 1870
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    does anyone know of an earlier?
     
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  2. cupid_stunt

    cupid_stunt Dyslexic King Cnut the Great.

    Blimey, 1870.

    Sasaferrato?
     
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  3. cheesethief

    cheesethief Well-Known Member

    "Officer Shield was shot in the neck..."

    Ironic.
     
  4. weepiper

    weepiper Jock under the bed

    That could be a description of an orange march in Belfast or Glasgow now. Plus ca change :(
     
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  5. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato Thank fuck it's not over.

    Well, I can't recall a shooting... :) But yes, ingrained hatred doesn't change in a generation, or even several generations.
     
  6. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato Thank fuck it's not over.

    Well, as you are older than me... :)
     
  7. 8ball

    8ball Considerably more oppressed than yow

    Sometimes it does. Eg. Australia’s experience of sectarian violence last century and how they handled it.

    But too rarely.
     
  8. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    baseball bats as weapons - earliest use - any advance on july 1870?
     
  9. 8ball

    8ball Considerably more oppressed than yow

    May 1843.
     
  10. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato Thank fuck it's not over.

    Yes, I could see that exported hatred would die down, especially as the protagonists may be a small section of the populace.

    In Scotland and Northern Ireland though, it continues to disgrace us.
     
  11. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    yeh perhaps you could expand on that
     
  12. 8ball

    8ball Considerably more oppressed than yow

    I think the Australian approach of compulsory mixed schooling would at least help.
     
  13. 8ball

    8ball Considerably more oppressed than yow

    The 12th. Pub closing time.
     
  14. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    and this was reported...
     
  15. belboid

    belboid TUC Off Your Knees

    Seems unlikely as that was before the first official game of baseball had been played in the States
     
  16. 8ball

    8ball Considerably more oppressed than yow

    Are you being strict about Knickerbocker rules, by the way?
     
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  17. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    i'm being strict about wanting the details of the incident.
     
  18. 8ball

    8ball Considerably more oppressed than yow

    You still needed a bat for unofficial games.

    (the first recorded game was nearly a century earlier, although the rules had not been codified at that point)
     
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  19. Celyn

    Celyn Well-Known Member

    I don't *think* there has been much messing about with pistols and baseball bats and 20-pounds stones in Glasgow lately.
     
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  20. 8ball

    8ball Considerably more oppressed than yow

    Oh, I thought you just wanted the date. :(
     
  21. isvicthere?

    isvicthere? a.k.a. floppybollocks

    Was it also Old Firm match day? :(
     
  22. belboid

    belboid TUC Off Your Knees

    but it wouldn't have been a 'baseball bat' it would have been a rounders bat, or just a big stick
     
  23. PippinTook

    PippinTook A flower does not ask to bloom, it just does.

    Not quite the same, but Hurleys were used as weapons over here. Many "games" were really fights...to the point where people were killed.

    Obviously that was a very long time ago.
     
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  24. 8ball

    8ball Considerably more oppressed than yow

    It was called baseball (and earlier “bass-ball”) well before 1845.
     
  25. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    they missed a trick here

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    manchester courier 13/2/1866
     
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  26. weepiper

    weepiper Jock under the bed

    Was going to say. Cu Chulainn used a hurley as a weapon in the Tain did he not. That's a story from the 1st or 2nd century AD written down in the 12th century then.
     
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  27. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato Thank fuck it's not over.

    If ever one wants to judge the sanity of a nation, look at the national game.

    Hurling is even more insane than shinty, just. :p:D
     
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  28. PippinTook

    PippinTook A flower does not ask to bloom, it just does.

    Absolutely.
     
  29. PippinTook

    PippinTook A flower does not ask to bloom, it just does.

    But it's a great game to watch :D from a safe distance
     
  30. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    anyway a search of the british newspaper archive doesn't return any results for events before 12/7/1870
     

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