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Dwain Chambers & Olympic ban

Legally I think he should be allowed to go, but I hope he doesn't. He might be winning some races here, but when it comes to the Olympics - if he gets there - he won't finish anywhere near the medal places, and will probably finish last if he makes the final. So all this aggro he's creating will be for nothing in the end. It's for that reason that I hope he doesn't go, not the drugs thing.
 
Give the guy a break. What is wrong with this country? Can't we give a guy a second chance? Surely the message should be here's someone who's turned himself around and is now winning and capable of winning. But oh no, with characteristic British fatalism, he keeps getting knocked.

What's wrong with the psyche of this country that someone who's good at something gets kicked to the kerb all the time. All the while we expect to produce top sportsmen.

Bollocks.

Let him run I say. He's done his time.

Agreed with this part 100%. Fucking backwards country we live in.
 
No paracetamol for headaches or morphine for patients in hospitals then? How about Ventolin? Do you not condone that either?
well medical reasons are obviously acceptable, let's not be pedantic and stupid. I don't condone the use of drugs in sport or recreationally :rolleyes:
 
He's a cheating cunt. I used to love watching athletics (Coe vs. Ovett at every Euro meeting was a constant fixture and delight and fucking tons more), now I find it hard to trust any of them. Duane Chambers is a fucking cheating cunt, BTW. Fuck him, and his stupid lawsuit. Cheating fucking bastard and sadly he's not the only one. Cunts like him have ruined the most basic and worthy sporting contests. Or, basically, what Melinda said.
He was a cheating cunt, yes. Can people not change? Should we not allow them a second chance? Or should we condone snide sniping from the sidelines? That's all that's happening now. Why does this country assume that he can't change and that we should constantly kick him for it. All smacks of jealousy to me.
 
Whether he runs or not, I don't really care, but what I have noticed is how horrible, petty and vindicative Athletics is as a sport.

A Parade of atheletes of measure too, not non-entities, all coming out with the most hateful bile I have seen in a long time. Athletics in this country comes across as a cliquey nasty bunch.

Glad I never watch it to be honest.
 
personally i think they should allow athletes to take whatever substances they want. It would certainly make it more interesting. Yes there might be associated health costs but it's onl athletes. what the fuck are they going to do once they stopped running and jumping around. Nothing. so it's a no brainer let these over competitive freaks stick whatever fucking drugs they can find into their bodies just so they can entertain us.
 
Agreed with this part 100%. Fucking backwards country we live in.
Yeah, how awful- people learning there are consequences to shit behaviour.

Dwain may have done his 'time' but he isnt fit to run and reresent this country. If Dawin wants to run, let him do it in Belgrave colours and not for Team GB.

Why dont the Americans let Marion Jones, Kelli White or Justin Gatlin run? Fuck it, let 'em run.

If dope cheats are allowed to do their time and come back- suddenly athletics is like pro-cycling, no credibility what-so-ever, and the rewards in cycling mean that doping isnt just an accetable risk, its de-rigeur.
Whether he runs or not, I don't really care, but what I have noticed is how horrible, petty and vindicative Athletics is as a sport.

A Parade of atheletes of measure too, not non-entities, all coming out with the most hateful bile I have seen in a long time. Athletics in this country comes across as a cliquey nasty bunch.

Glad I never watch it to be honest.
Dwain Chambers' colleagues have a problem with him disgracing the sport, lying, costing them medals- what a surprise.

Perhaps if you watched the sport and understood the issues, you would actually have a clue what you were talking about.
 
He knew the risks, he took them, he lost.

Tough shit.

Of course he shouldn't be allowed to represent us at the Olympics - this court case will be a joke. Would he get the same level of sympathy if he was a drunk driver?
 
I reckon they should have separate leagues for the Drug enhanced athletes. Be much more fun, as there's always the chance one of them will have a heart attack, or suffer 'roid rage and batter a commentator.
 
Yeah, how awful- people learning there are consequences to shit behaviour.

Dwain may have done his 'time' but he isnt fit to run and reresent this country. If Dawin wants to run, let him do it in Belgrave colours and not for Team GB.

Why dont the Americans let Marion Jones, Kelli White or Justin Gatlin run? Fuck it, let 'em run.

If dope cheats are allowed to do their time and come back- suddenly athletics is like pro-cycling, no credibility what-so-ever, and the rewards in cycling mean that doping isnt just an accetable risk, its de-rigeur.
Dwain Chambers' colleagues have a problem with him disgracing the sport, lying, costing them medals- what a surprise.

Perhaps if you watched the sport and understood the issues, you would actually have a clue what you were talking about.
Arguing against Chambers because you don't like the rules is just vindictive. He's not responsible for the rules and has taken his punishment. Why then should he be the subject of some juvenile hate campaign? Because other atheletes can't now beat him they just drag up his past misdemeanour. Is that what you would call sportsmanship?

Why shouldn't he represent this country if he's clean, served his time and good enough? Do we just write people off then? Tell them to fuck off with no hope of redemption.
 
Perhaps if you watched the sport and understood the issues, you would actually have a clue what you were talking about.

The level of spite for the level of crime is out of whack. Did he kill anyone, did he hurt anyone, did he do much else besides cheat at a sport? Yes that isn't nice, but it doesn't deserve the level petty nastiness heaped upon him by various atheletes in the news.
 
Let him run ffs. He might win us a meddle.

But not for spelling obviously!

Whether he runs or not, I don't really care, but what I have noticed is how horrible, petty and vindicative Athletics is as a sport.

A Parade of atheletes of measure too, not non-entities, all coming out with the most hateful bile I have seen in a long time. Athletics in this country comes across as a cliquey nasty bunch.

Glad I never watch it to be honest.
Maybe it's because all these athletes who were clean are mighty pissed off that a drug cheat is dragging the name of the sport into the gutter! Maybe if you watched it you'd have a clue what you were talking about.

Arguing against Chambers because you don't like the rules is just vindictive. He's not responsible for the rules and has taken his punishment. Why then should he be the subject of some juvenile hate campaign? Because other atheletes can't now beat him they just drag up his past misdemeanour. Is that what you would call sportsmanship?

Why shouldn't he represent this country if he's clean, served his time and good enough? Do we just write people off then? Tell them to fuck off with no hope of redemption.

He hasn't served his time tho, that the court case is about to have his punishment quashed.
 
He hasn't served his time tho, that the court case is about to have his punishment quashed.

The punishment is odd though.

A ban for a few years, then he can compete everywhere except the Olympics.

That's like a drink driver getting a years ban, then being able to drive anywhere except Sussex or something.

Why no Olympics?
 
Arguing against Chambers because you don't like the rules is just vindictive. He's not responsible for the rules and has taken his punishment. Why then should he be the subject of some juvenile hate campaign? Because other atheletes can't now beat him they just drag up his past misdemeanour. Is that what you would call sportsmanship?

Why shouldn't he represent this country if he's clean, served his time and good enough? Do we just write people off then? Tell them to fuck off with no hope of redemption.
Vindictive? Hate campaign? No, its called consequence. Dwain Chambers chose this path. He cynically chose his coach and coaching team *because* of their prowess with doping. He cheated colleagues out of medals, pride and prize money. He lost them medals ffs- they to give back their medals. Dwain chose this, it was not foisted on him. It is not a past 'misdemenaour' - in his profession he committed the worst crime possible.

If he competes in a Team GB vest, suddenly getting caught for doping is an occuational hazard instead of a gross violation of the trust his sport put in him.

His behaviour since getting caught has been shameful. Instead of laying low and getting on with things, we've had bitchy interviews slagging his 4x4 team, publicity stunts in NFL and AF in Germany, then the last fiasco with rugby league. Its all bushit.

Dwain and Marion jones betrayed everything they worked a lifetime for- fucking over team mates in the process. As vomit inducing as Marion Jones' courtroom steps tears were, at least she had the fucking heart to show some remorse. Dwain's a cunt.

The level of spite for the level of crime is out of whack. Did he kill anyone, did he hurt anyone, did he do much else besides cheat at a sport? Yes that isn't nice, but it doesn't deserve the level petty nastiness heaped upon him by various atheletes in the news.

No he hasnt killed anyone, but no one is saying he cant go do something else. He closed off this avenue himself. If you dont 'get it', go find something else you dont know about to comment on because there are people who actually give a shit about this sport on this thread.
 
But not for spelling obviously!


Maybe it's because all these athletes who were clean are mighty pissed off that a drug cheat is dragging the name of the sport into the gutter! Maybe if you watched it you'd have a clue what you were talking about.



He hasn't served his time tho, that the court case is about to have his punishment quashed.
The court case is to overturn a lifetime ban that only exists for UK athletes; no other country does this. So what's the problem.

Is it his fault the rules for international athletics are so inconsistent?
 
His behaviour since getting caught has been shameful. Instead of laying low and getting on with things, we've had bitchy interviews slagging his 4x4 team, publicity stunts in NFL and AF in Germany, then the last fiasco with rugby league. Its all bushit.

Ah so because he didn't do what YOU wanted him to do, as a filthy criminal, he deserves the vilification he gets.

So again people can't change and we should just write them off forever, yes?

Do you feel this way about real life drug addicts? People in rehab? Or do you reserve this ire for some schmuck who got caught doing something stupid.
 
Ah so because he didn't do what YOU wanted him to do, as a filthy criminal, he deserves the vilification he gets.

So again people can't change and we should just write them off forever, yes?

Do you feel this way about real life drug addicts? People in rehab? Or do you reserve this ire for some schmuck who got caught doing something stupid.
Dont be a dick. That is not what I have said.

If this is the level you wish to debate at, I cant help you.
 
The court case is to overturn a lifetime ban that only exists for UK athletes; no other country does this. So what's the problem.

Is it his fault the rules for international athletics are so inconsistent?

He knew the fucking rules before he took the drugs.

If ya can't do the crime and all that.

Has he repaid every penny he ever earned from athletics when he was cheating? I bet not. so he is still benefitting from his years of cheating. Fuck him.
 
Maybe it's because all these athletes who were clean are mighty pissed off that a drug cheat is dragging the name of the sport into the gutter! Maybe if you watched it you'd have a clue what you were talking about.

Still doesn't excuse the level of spite. In fact, not a lot excuses the level of spite shown by British Athletes lately.
 
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