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Durham Left bookfair 22nd November 2008

If truth is told you protected Seyton and Paul - and have contributed to a position which wouldn't be unusual in Stalinist Russia.

There are obviously a lot of parallels between the position you find yourself in, and that of political activists in Stalinist Russia.
 
Why all the hostility to Mr Class War?

The Bookfair seems like a good initiative and should be supported by right thinking people.

To be honest, who is interested in some obscure grudge some posters seem to hold.
 
You saw your name (which you've made sure to plaster all over the web) posted by an anon poster on indymedia and so decided to post the name, details and other family info up of someone you don't happen to like? That sounds like a well reasoned and not insane thing to do. Like i i said, you've crossed the line and are now an active danger.



And nice one on confirming that you are gangster/attica/the black hand/lucy parsons/general strike/ glasgow celtic/ian bone/dave douglass/etc - you'd be great in the resistance wouldn't you|?

Yep, Attica (and all of his other many aliases) is a bloody menace and this is one more reason, as if there was a need for any more, for him to be completely fucking shunned. He's a danger to anyone whose details he has now or may acquire in the future and I wouldn't touch him or anything he's involved in with a bargepole.

I'm not condoning anyone having their IRL details posted up on the net for anyone with a grudge to take advantage of, that's not only bad form it's also potentially dangerous. And what if someone does decide to use those details for malign purposes, Attica? Do I take it that you'll just blithely wash your hands of any degree of responsibility for what might happen to them?
 
These are interesting people with a long track record of involvement in serious working class politics. You could learn from them, Bakunin and Paul.
 
These are interesting people with a long track record of involvement in serious working class politics. You could learn from them, Bakunin and Paul.

I don't regard Attica (or any of his many, many aliases) as being a serious, responsible or, come to that, even a sane individual.

I'd frankly be frightened and worried if I found myself in a position where he had any access whatsoever to my personal details as I'd rather not have them plastered across the net for all to see, thanks.

Are you seriously saying that you'd be comfortable working with someone who does things like this? And whose online persona is, frankly, that of a deranged stalker? because I wouldn't and I'll happily advise anyone to keep as clear of Attica as they can do.
 
You're out of your league, you miserable little man with fantasies.

Lighten up!

So Attica has set up a better Class War group. Get over yerselves. :D
 
You're out of your league, you miserable little man with fantasies.

Lighten up!

So Attica has set up a better Class War group. Get over yerselves. :D

Evening Attica, if this is yet another of your aliases.

I'm not in Class War, have never been involved with Class War, but I've seen enough of Attica's deranged wibblings here and elsewhere in cyberspace, to know that, from his online persona anyway, he's gone from from being a mere annoyance to a bloody menace to be avoided like the plague.
 
Let's get this clear.

1) You don't know ATTICA
2) You've never met ATTICA

Yet you feel competent to judge upon something that doesn't really concern you does it.

No wonder the anarchist movement is down the pan!
 
Let's get this clear.

1) You don't know ATTICA
2) You've never met ATTICA

Yet you feel competent to judge upon something that doesn't really concern you does it.

No wonder the anarchist movement is down the pan!

I've encountered Attica online in numerous places over the past year or so, and he's never impressed me as anything other than a menace to decent activists and supporters everywhere.

And it does concern me because touts concern me, as an active Anarchist who'd rather his personal details didn't end up on the hands of the far right in particular.

One of the reasons the Anarchist movement in this country is struggling is because it, for some unknown reason, tends to attract loons like Attica who then cause all manner of problems and strife for others. I'm only interested in working with committed and hardworking folk who do a decent job and don't potentially put the health and well-being of other activists at risk by plastering their personal details across the web for the benefit anyone who might like to do them some harm or cause them the loss of their job. I'm not interested in working with loons like Attica who are an unbridled menace to anyone who gets near them.
 
There are obviously a lot of parallels between the position you find yourself in, and that of political activists in Stalinist Russia.

This coming from Paul Marsh, and if the far right are reading and no doubt there are they will see the thugs of Class War for what they are, not an organised movement of anarchist, one where the working class can look towards.
 
I've encountered Attica online in numerous places over the past year or so, and he's never impressed me as anything other than a menace to decent activists and supporters everywhere.

And it does concern me because touts concern me, as an active Anarchist who'd rather his personal details didn't end up on the hands of the far right in particular.

One of the reasons the Anarchist movement in this country is struggling is because it, for some unknown reason, tends to attract loons like Attica who then cause all manner of problems and strife for others. I'm only interested in working with committed and hardworking folk who do a decent job and don't potentially put the health and well-being of other activists at risk by plastering their personal details across the web for the benefit anyone who might like to do them some harm or cause them the loss of their job. I'm not interested in working with loons like Attica who are an unbridled menace to anyone who gets near them.

So it should, this speaking a person who has acted in the same vain, it is up to me to re gain the trust for my actions, people are right to act for there own safety and those who there involved with..

I would ask is it right for actavist who work in positions of authority to release and show records of people?

This has happened to myself, where some of the crass assumptions of myself come from, the other lies come from a very serious paranoid psychopath, who stood watched me being beaten then repeated the lies told of me.

When i come into anarchism i was damaged person, it damaged me further to be frank, it is only the love of my partner of 15 years, his love that i have come to where i find myself.

I would not disagree with Bakunin and there comments, but what i would say the anarchist movement needs to look towards how we deal with damaged people, all what the actions of Paul Marsh and others have done, is displaced Attica and here we are dealing the fall out of there actions.

Myself i would niter trust Paul Marsh and those around him, i too value my safety and physiology to trust the thugs of anarchism with this..
 
So it should, this speaking a person who has acted in the same vain, it is up to me to re gain the trust for my actions, people are right to act for there own safety and those who there involved with..

I would ask is it right for actavist who work in positions of authority to release and show records of people?

This has happened to myself, where some of the crass assumptions of myself come from, the other lies come from a very serious paranoid psychopath, who stood watched me being beaten then repeated the lies told of me.

When i come into anarchism i was damaged person, it damaged me further to be frank, it is only the love of my partner of 15 years, his love that i have come to where i find myself.

I would not disagree with Bakunin and there comments, but what i would say the anarchist movement needs to look towards how we deal with damaged people, all what the actions of Paul Marsh and others have done, is displaced Attica and here we are dealing the fall out of there actions.

Myself i would niter trust Paul Marsh and those around him, i too value my safety and physiology to trust the thugs of anarchism with this..

Are you a bit under the weather?
 
I compare Attica to his critics, Paul Marsh and ClassWar.

They only talk waffle and gossip, Attica actually talks about politics.

I suspect that the reason why Attica is unpopular is because he doesn't pander to your anarchist ghetto, but is prepared to break with dogma?
 
I compare Attica to his critics, Paul Marsh and ClassWar.

They only talk waffle and gossip, Attica actually talks about politics.

I suspect that the reason why Attica is unpopular is because he doesn't pander to your anarchist ghetto, but is prepared to break with dogma?

Thus speaketh the intellect of a nat. :rolleyes:
 
I compare Attica to his critics, Paul Marsh and ClassWar.

They only talk waffle and gossip, Attica actually talks about politics.

I suspect that the reason why Attica is unpopular is because he doesn't pander to your anarchist ghetto, but is prepared to break with dogma?

As if you would put up with Attica's nonsense for 5 minutes!

Whilst trolling for unpopular causes may be amusing, you really should be careful what you wish for.
 
I don't remember Attica actually ever coming out Sabbing whereas I distinctly remember some other posters here .He talked about it though and wrote a dissertation on poaching.
 
When Attica was not being abusive or self-indulgent, I thought he had an interesting take on things. His critics seem rather bland. I mean who the hell is Paul Marsh?

And how about bigging up the Durham Bookfair?
 
I don't remember Attica actually ever coming out Sabbing whereas I distinctly remember some other posters here .He talked about it though and wrote a dissertation on poaching.

There's not been a thread on sabbing since you joined.
 
I don't remember Attica actually ever coming out Sabbing whereas I distinctly remember some other posters here .He talked about it though and wrote a dissertation on poaching.


...and one more open recognition that you're Old Stoic. Have i missed it or are you still pretending not to be?
 
...and smuggling fags and saving foxes from hunters and smashing parking meters and his International Brigade to fight alongside Hezbollocks and praxis... especially praxis...

note Saving foxes from hunters -normally referred to as Sabbing -

apologies ?
 
I compare Attica to his critics, Paul Marsh and ClassWar.

They only talk waffle and gossip, Attica actually talks about politics.

I suspect that the reason why Attica is unpopular is because he doesn't pander to your anarchist ghetto, but is prepared to break with dogma?
by Attica talking politics, i assume you mean acting the tout, as he so recently did. do you frequently defend touts, udo?
 
by Attica talking politics, i assume you mean acting the tout, as he so recently did. do you frequently defend touts, udo?

Paul and Butchers were the grasses/touts first - grassing him up to webmods to get him banned. This sort of censorship is wrong because it does not allow genuine debate.
 
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