Dune by Frank Herbert.
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DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
covering distance at any speed for sure. But yeah, learn to walk as a kid, then try to unwalk as an adult. Harder than it sounds, most of your bodily motion is conditioned to a flow like that- tis why music always aids walking imo, you trek to the beat. You can see why they eventually went 'fuck this' and learned to ride shai hulud
PursuedByBears
Go stick your head in a pig
I think the best way to read the series is to read:
Dune
Dune Messiah
Children of Dune
God Emperor
and then stop. I don't think Heretics and Chapterhouse add much to the overall story.
Dune
Dune Messiah
Children of Dune
God Emperor
and then stop. I don't think Heretics and Chapterhouse add much to the overall story.
Idaho
continuity character
They don't, but Miles Teg's ninja skills are fun.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
This times a thousand.
Personally I think all the Frank Herbert ones are worth reading, the first is the best but none of them are bad. Unlike the Anderson crap.
treefrog
Saddle up
Idaho
continuity character
Frank always started his chapters with a pithy quote from the BG, an interesting cultural reference from the Tleilexu or a section from the spacing guild manual. It gave him both free reign to make meta comments on the story and characters and gave a satisfying depth and richness to the universe.
By contrast, the Anderson crap uses the pre-quote as a chance to dish out exciting/tough/pseudo-portentious drivel.
By contrast, the Anderson crap uses the pre-quote as a chance to dish out exciting/tough/pseudo-portentious drivel.
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
I love the snippets from Princess Irulan at the beginning of the chapters (I'm not far into the book so I'm unsure if the quotes start coming from someone else at some point).
Fundamentally the Dune series a hippy classic with the obvious similes of spice being hash, the sand people being mysterious Arab hippies, with the books mythology pinched from Islam. The baddies are "the man". Basically it's all about drugs, mystical shit and riding giants sand worms and some good knife fights. What's not to like.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
here lies a toppled god
his fall was not a short one
we did but his pedestal
a narrow and a tall one
oneflewover
Following "The Tigers"
Been using the Audio book of this as my accompaniment on the way to and from work. Must be 30+ years since first read. Really enjoying it and enjoying using the reread on Tor.com
It is the first time I have used accompanying notes and will use against. Everyday can still be a school day.
It is the first time I have used accompanying notes and will use against. Everyday can still be a school day.
flustercuck
Spoonerist
Kevin J Anderson is the fucking WORST.
Anderson is... utterly pointless, by the numbers, glorified fan fiction. Unreadable? Unpublishable more like. Had it not had the "Dune" name slapped on it, it would have been trashcanned.
Virtual Blue
ready
Reading it for the first time and halfway through.
Amazing.
Amazing.
nuffsaid
But this goes up to 11
When I was really young and into Sf I used to only have the patience to read short stories, and I always used to look at 'Dune' in the library and think, 'Wow! that book is huge I'd never be able to read that'.
It always looked like a massive hurdle I'd one day really like to have a go at, and so one day I did and it was f**king brilliant. I read up to Children of Dune, by then it seemed far away from the original and felt like a place to stop.
I know the film had mixed reviews but for me it captured quite well, I thought, the vaguely Medieval feel to the story. I really liked the idea of a mixture of ancient tradition and chivalry mixed with high-tech weaponry. The guy who played Paul's father I thought was superb. The only criticism for me was how they dealt with the inner voice narration, there was so much in the book you have to deal with it and it seemed a bit clunky, but overall the style of the universe portrayed was largely how I imagined it, as I gleefully waded through the largest book I had ever read.
It always looked like a massive hurdle I'd one day really like to have a go at, and so one day I did and it was f**king brilliant. I read up to Children of Dune, by then it seemed far away from the original and felt like a place to stop.
I know the film had mixed reviews but for me it captured quite well, I thought, the vaguely Medieval feel to the story. I really liked the idea of a mixture of ancient tradition and chivalry mixed with high-tech weaponry. The guy who played Paul's father I thought was superb. The only criticism for me was how they dealt with the inner voice narration, there was so much in the book you have to deal with it and it seemed a bit clunky, but overall the style of the universe portrayed was largely how I imagined it, as I gleefully waded through the largest book I had ever read.
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UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Time for another series of it with a decent budget and good writers?
Mind you they massacred Altered Carbon so maybe best not.
Mind you they massacred Altered Carbon so maybe best not.
gawkrodger
Well-Known Member
I read this last week. Surprised it took me until now to do so (I did pick up the above 50th anniversary ed) but greatly enjoyed it. Should I continue with the series?
TruXta
tired
Read the next two at least - they tie up the stuff from the first book. Books 4-6 are quite different in some ways and probably of somewhat lesser quality in parts, even though I still rate them.
Stay the fuck away from the prequel books written by Herbert Jr and Kevin Anderson, utter dreck.
Idaho
continuity character
Generally agree. Although god emperor (4) is a final end to the original story. 5 and 6 are entertaining romps really.
TruXta
tired
I kinda see what you mean, but in a way God Emperor is sort of its own thing.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
theres more prequels as well, covering the butlerian jihad and so on. I've stayed away.Also I only yesterday realised they've written books going past no 6! Wtf
Idaho
continuity character
One of the great things about the dune books is the quote at the start of each chapter. They give important richness to the universe and can be very pithy.
Take a look at the prequel/etc starting quotes and they are pretentious/portentous-sounding guff. I don't have a problem with pulp science fiction, but not in this universe please.
Take a look at the prequel/etc starting quotes and they are pretentious/portentous-sounding guff. I don't have a problem with pulp science fiction, but not in this universe please.
TruXta
tired
I read the first one of the prequels. I was so angry by the end of it I chucked it straight in the recycling bin
gawkrodger
Well-Known Member
cool. will pick up the next two tomorrow
Reno
The In Kraut
Rebecca Ferguson is in talks to be cast as Lady Jessica. That would be excellent news, she's one of the best actors working in Hollywood right now. Timothee Chalamet is a great choice for Paul Atreides. This looks very promising.
Rebecca Ferguson in Talks to Star in Denis Villeneuve's 'Dune'
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
I have every confidence in Villeneuve, he'll conjure up something amazing.
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