Dulwich Hamlet v Hemel Hempstead Town, 3pm Saturday 16th February 2019

[PartisanDulwich]

THIS from Hemel Fan Facebook page after today

"The most unfootball football crowd i've ever been in.....strange mix of fans they have."

THAT WOULD BE THE COMMUNITY !

 

[Pink Panther]

Key jangling

THIS from Hemel Fan Facebook page after today

"The most unfootball football crowd i've ever been in.....strange mix of fans they have."

THAT WOULD BE THE COMMUNITY !

So an actual mix of fans, including supporters who aren't white working class males? That's why we get four times as many people through the gates as they do. Some people just don't get it. I'll be judgemental myself now: Hemel Hempstead is possibly the most dismal and depressing town in our division. I really wouldn't want to live there.

 

[Scolly]

Issues with a few idiots behind our goal second half was dealt with by supoorters. It happens, few wore stone island gear.... but you’d never see them at a football league ground giving it... they would be in main stand with mum and dad. Silly boys in the wrong place

 

[the 12th man]

Great day to support the Hamlet today and another huge community crowd
The display on the pitch especially in the second half sent the fans home happy, after a very entertaining game (and we didn't lose)
Seem to be lots of new fans coming - a number with little idea of our standards and ethics
Yep, some very drunk stoned Hamlet and Hemel fans
We will leave HH to deal with their fans
with regard to ours, given we have very few stewards, its vital people feel confident to challenge poor behaviour and get the support of other fans around them, its the only way we can do this and ensure that we keep Champion hill safe for all.
But lets not let a literally a handful of idiots spoil what was a great spectacle today

and while were talking about fairness lets give Jørgensen a chance

We have plenty of Securuty/Stewards on our match days and we need to ensure we utilise them to deal with situations that occur as this is what they are paid for.

In regard to our "stone island" friends info has been received and this will be looked into.

 

[PartisanDulwich]

no criticism of our wounderful and understanding stewards was implied - 200% better than previous crew - more they cannot be everywhere and monitor ever incident

 

[Cyclodunc]

200% is impossible unless you’re talking absolutes

 

[Cyclodunc]

From what I heard, stewards were told and they said “what can we do?”

I wasn’t present, so welcome to hear otherwise

 

[Cyclodunc]

And understand stewarding is a tricky job

 

[MrFouldsy]

Would be good to review the response from the stewards to yesterday's trouble. The same fans were shouting out unacceptable crap the whole game. When a fan did the right thing and got a steward they did very little and left pretty sharpish, leaving the Stone Island crew to moodily hang about clearly waiting to kick off again. Should have been chucked straight out for the verbal nonsense anyway and certainly after they went looking for trouble - could have turned pretty nasty. Fans will police ourselves but they must have the backing from stewards to do so.

The least the steward should have done in my opinion would have been to stick around and keep an eye on things rather than leaving fans to it.

One of the calmer of the Stone Island crew was given a friendly talking to at the end and got the message about how to enjoy a game at Champion Hill.

 

[Blitzwalker]

Would be good to review the response from the stewards to yesterday's trouble. The same fans were shouting out unacceptable crap the whole game. When a fan did the right thing and got a steward they did very little and left pretty sharpish, leaving the Stone Island crew to moodily hang about clearly waiting to kick off again. Should have been chucked straight out for the verbal nonsense anyway and certainly after they went looking for trouble - could have turned pretty nasty. Fans will police ourselves but they must have the backing from stewards to do so.

Didn’t see or hear any of this yesterday as was loitering in my now customary spot near the Southey beer emporium. Just wondering if it was the same “Chelsea” (other idiots are available) lot I had to speak to a couple of seasons back. Whoever they are, they’re not wanted at Champion Hill.

 

[Pink Panther]

200% is impossible unless you’re talking absolutes

Even Harry Redknapp only goes up to 110%.

 

[mick mccartney]

i suspect i'm not the only one that sees the irony of having a youth problem when redthread are on site . thankfully god didn't show his ugly side last year when the copleston people were here .

 

[GregDHFC]

There's no way Jørgensen was at fault for either of the first two goals. Maybe he didn't need to be quite so far off his line for the third, but that was one of the best finishes you're ever likely to see at this level. I'd say the entire back four looked less assured than when Preston plays, it's difficult to quantify that. I believe Preston's wife is due to give birth imminently and that's the main reason he didn't play.

I feel more positive about Jorgensen's performance knowing that Preston was unavailable and hadn't been dropped. At the time I thought it seemed unfair that he replaced Preston.

The first goal was clearly the defender's fault primarily, but I didn't think he did a good job or closing down the angle or attempting to block the low shot. The second goal was a wonder strike. The third was also an almost unbelievable lob, catching him out of position - but as you point out, you wouldn't expect many players at this level to even attempt that.

 

[Dulwich Mishi]

I feel more positive about Jorgensen's performance knowing that Preston was unavailable and hadn't been dropped. At the time I thought it seemed unfair that he replaced Preston.

The first goal was clearly the defender's fault primarily, but I didn't think he did a good job or closing down the angle or attempting to block the low shot. The second goal was a wonder strike. The third was also an almost unbelievable lob, catching him out of position - but as you point out, you wouldn't expect many players at this level to even attempt that.

Whether the Stone Island clad few were at their first game or not the fact they were in our end supporting us makes them our fans. I cannot believe there’s no photos circulating of them as everyone has camera phones. One of the reasons I stopped standing and singing behind the goal was every time you opened your mouth half a dozen phones automatically popped up. It’s a bit more worrying about stewards not being able to do anything. Perhaps it’s time with the size of our crowds to hire a couple of old Bill per game...

 

[editor]

Whether the Stone Island clad few were at their first game or not the fact they were in our end supporting us makes them our fans. I cannot believe there’s no photos circulating of them as everyone has camera phones. One of the reasons I stopped standing and singing behind the goal was every time you opened your mouth half a dozen phones automatically popped up. It’s a bit more worrying about stewards not being able to do anything. Perhaps it’s time with the size of our crowds to hire a couple of old Bill per game...

Surely it's a LOT to do with the fact that there was no Premier league games on yesterday so the twats made us their day trip of choice?

 

[Pink Panther]

It’s a bit more worrying about stewards not being able to do anything. Perhaps it’s time with the size of our crowds to hire a couple of old Bill per game...

I was on the halfway line and didn't see any problems from there. There's a big difference between "being twats" and looking to physically attack people (or threatening to); I don't know how far down that scale these individuals were, but it sounds like a review of the stewarding may be enough before we start worrying about a need for a Police presence. I think the notorious Gloucester Trophy game is the last time a crowd control issue got really out of hand at Champion Hill, and that was 25 years ago with an attendance of less than 500. The other issue is that these isolated incidents seem to happen at fixtures where there's no real reason to anticipate it. The games with big away followings, whether it's Aldershot, Yeovil, Maidstone, Wealdstone, Torquay, always seem to pass off without a problem and the visiting supporters appreciate our more relaxed approach compared to the way some clubs treat them.

 

[editor]

Match report, Max's photos to follow!

Match report: Dulwich Hamlet 3 – 3 Hemel Hempstead, Sat 16th Feb 2019

 

[Scolly]

Whether the Stone Island clad few were at their first game or not the fact they were in our end supporting us makes them our fans. I cannot believe there’s no photos circulating of them as everyone has camera phones. One of the reasons I stopped standing and singing behind the goal was every time you opened your mouth half a dozen phones automatically popped up. It’s a bit more worrying about stewards not being able to do anything. Perhaps it’s time with the size of our crowds to hire a couple of old Bill per game...

They stood at Car Wash End both harves

 

[EDC]

Hemel fans then ?

 

[Pink Panther]

They stood at Car Wash End both harves

Dog Kennel Hill End.

 

[3010]

Hemel fans then ?

Definitely Hamlet fans - one had on what looked like a brand new scarf and the main offender shouted out “C’mon the Hamlets” a few times!!

 

[Scolly]

Doesnt make them Hamlet fans, they weren't.

we sell 100+ bars each week and many will never been seen at CH again

 

[3010]

Doesnt make them Hamlet fans, they weren't.

we sell 100+ bars each week and many will never been seen at CH again

Just making it clear they weren’t Hemel fans.

 

[EDC]

There was a rowdy lot coming in way behind me at the turnstiles singing the Ole song, I thought they were Hemel but it was probably this crowd.

 

[Cyclodunc]

It sounded like Hemel fans sing a few songs to the same tunes as us

 

[Jimbob73]

I was behind the goal DKH end, exit side of goal in the 2nd half, didn't see or here anything, what was up?

 

[cambelt]

Was right behind the goal and didn't hear or see anything either.

 

[EDC]

Was in the stand, Greendale end and got a few flicked V’s and wanker gestures from the Hemel fans when the penalty went in.

 

[Scottfield]

I was standing behind the goal on the mega pallet and stood next to the people in question for the whole of the second half, and was with the fan who went to get the stewards. To clarify any speculation it was a group of 7-8 lads. I have seen 2-3 of them at matches before a numberof times. We were told, and I believe, that it was the main offender's first match. The individuals in question were of course challenged by other fans, that's why it got a little hairy. Please do not make assumptions that they were not challenged. As has been mentioned by others, one fan went to get a steward to keep an eye on them, but they didnt stay. Frustrating but understandable; as soon as the stewards turned up the lads thanked them for intervening and made out that they were the injured party (nothing physical took place). What I can also assure you all is immediately after the match appropriate conversations were had with the Club's leadership about what happened and hopefully there are some plans in hand, although I wont and cannot speak for the club. As was also mentioned above, approporiate conversations were also had with some of the group post full time. Based on those conversations, and his reaction to being challenged etc, I wouldn't expect the main trouble maker to be back.

 

[Nivag]

Was in the stand, Greendale end and got a few flicked V’s and wanker gestures from the Hemel fans when the penalty went in.

There were a couple of choice words shouted towards myself as some of the Hemel fans left the ground. Odd as I was talking to a Hemel fan at the time.