Discussion in 'Dulwich Hamlet FC' started by Moroccan Sunset, May 11, 2018.
... And we're off! Nana's left to join Concord Rangers.
Was he under contract with us does anyone know?
He was, they run out after play offs. Sammy Moore moved from Leatherhead to Concord and Nana was one of their best players when he went their on loan. Not a surprise really.
Last time I heard something about contracts at this level, was that after the contract runs out, we still are due a fee. I thought with emphasis on thought, this is why we got money for Erhun whose contract expired and then he went to Peterborough.
But maybe that was just a voluntary fee.
Depends on age, if under 24. Sometimes you can just waive it if it's small...the fee, not the player!
Bit disappointing to lose him to another club at the same level, but he was only going to be on the bench for us so best of luck to him (except for 2 games this season).
Most of this season's side were under contract which is why we were unable to just release players when Meadow pulled out.
As for Nana, he couldn' make the bench for the Play Off games and was sent on loan at a crucial stage of the season. Reality is that showed he was not in Gavin's plans.
Leatherhead have appointed Nikki Bull as their new manager. We gave him some stick when he was goalkeeper for Margate. But he stuck with them when he was the manager and the player budget was being cut. It appears Margate treated him really badly. I wish him well.
Nikki wrote an article about his time at Margate that is worth a read. A few of my friends know him from his days at Aldershot, he's supposed to be a really nice bloke.
My time at Margate – where do I start?
I guess the travel some games might by a problem for the players that have other jobs. The extra travelling time for midweek games would be a concern for me.
Possibly but there are factors to mitigate against this. Only 42 matches instead of the 46 we had in the Isthmian, season starts a week earlier, don't enter the FA Cup until a round later. All this means a lot of games are packed into the first 6 weeks with local fixtures played in midweek before there's any risk of cup runs and weather disrupting the fixture list. A lot of the current players have already played in this division with other clubs.
We also enter the FA Trophy 2 rounds later, in the 3rd Q round.
I notice Billericay have released a whole load of their players, including Billy Bricknell.
Weathers has just announced on Facebook he’s leaving the club
Bloody loved Weathers
nooooooooo that's a shame. Looks like the extra travel may be too much for some
Yeah... would expect at least a few more to leave for this reason.
Not sure it's to do with extra travel, potentially the extra travel if you might not even make the bench..!
Faal to Kingstonian , according to Bostik( who they ) ? website .
Nooooooo that's my weekend ruined. Still remember being upset the first time he left. Why?
Really don't like this one. Thought he had great potential and he showed exactly what he could do when given a run of games when he went on loan to Ks.
I hope we've got some excellent signings lined up.
It was fun to watch the defenders try and cope with him as he was unpredictable on the ball and liked to run at them.
I totally agree with your sentiment, but the one factor no one seems to have mentioned in relation to the recent departures is the wage budget for next season. Last season's budget was sanctioned by Meadow while they were administering the Club's finances, and they told us it wasn't sustainable without their benevolence when they passed that responsibility to the Club committee. Having proved them wrong, they then threw us out of Champion Hill.
Our average league attendance at Champion Hill last season was just over 1,500. For the five matches at the KiNKy Stadium it was around 1,000 at a time of the season when we've consistently pulled 2,000 for Saturday fixtures in recent years. The Club managed to honour the players' contracts thanks to the phenomenal fundraising efforts of rank and file supporters, but I doubt you can put together a sound budget plan for the forthcoming season based on assumed donations on an ad hoc basis.
We were told that "most" of last season's squad were under contract, so I guess that's around 15 or so, maybe more. We've heard preliminary reports that the Club is hopeful of attracting new investement from other sources, but until this is confirmed I don't think you can just go out and offer the same mumber of playing contracts as last year. Hopefully we'll get some positive news on this front in the near future and will be able to start announcing some contract renewals and new signigns of our own, but I'm guessing that we may have to operate with a smaller number of contracted players and rely more on younger, cheaper, non-contract players to give a bit more flexibility with varying the playing budget over the course of the season depending upon how results go.
We're all very upbeat right now after a terrific season that ended with the euphoria of winning the play-off final in front of our biggest crowd for decades. A week or two ago a few people on here were getting a bit carried away talking about the prospects of pushing for the play-offs and another promotion to the National Division. I've heard others adopt the more cautious view that "I'll be happy just to stay up". Whilst I'm certainly not impatient to be competing for another promotion, I do feel it's very important to keep achieving decent results on the field in order to keep the mood around the club as buoyant and optimistic as possible whilst we remain in exile. Most of our supporters have never experienced a season in which we finished outside the top 6, which hasn't happened since 2009/10. If we get off to a poor start next season and find ourselves struggling in the bottom 6 the likelihood is that attendances and matchday revenue may fall. Then even if we ultimately stay up we'll be looking at further budget cuts, with less chance of staying up again the following season if we still haven't resolved the issue with being locked out of Champion Hill. Therefore just looking to stay up and consolidate isn't really an option, we need to set our sights higher than that.
My summary of the departures so far: Weatherstone & Beaney were our first and second choice captains over the last two seasons and were a big factor in transforming the team that underachived two seasons ago - stumbling into the play-offs in 5th place and losing the play-off final at East Thurrock - into the solid and efficient unit that enjoyed last year's Trophy run and pushed Billericay to the final week of the season for this year's championship, as well as having the best defensive record in the division. Weathers is the more surprising depature of the two for me; but we still have four other decent centre backs in the squad. I've always been a big Beaney fan, but I think there's a major doubt over having both him and Carew in the same midfield with both lacking pace and acceleration. You're basically left with a choice between Beaney's relentless consistency in doing the simpler things right, and Carew's more flamboyant approach. Ultimately Beaney doesn't contribute many goals whereas Carew's prowess at penalties and direct free kicks is always likely to win a significant number of extra points over the course of a season, and now we're playing at a higher level that's crucial for me. Faal, as I've already said, is a prospect; Boakye-Yiadom is a wholehearted forward and a decent finisher, but I'm not sure he quite has the all-round game for the way we play.
Time for you and your ilk to start questioning Gavin again?...
Think this may well, understandably, be the case - combined with the fact that this is our first season at this level, which means the whole planning and budgeting process takes on a new scope of complexity, it feels like there's a good amount of catching up for us to do. And whilst the likes of Maidstone and Hampton & Richmond successfully made the transition in recent times, in fact making the whole thing look pretty easy, our circumstances do place us in a somewhat unique position. And of course for each Maidstone and Hampton & Richmond, there have also been the Bognors and Margates who have come back down in quick order.
That said, Weathers mentioned in the EDT after the game that he'd have to take a close look his work circumstances before committing, so long before any budget considerations were made. Nana and Faal were both displaced from the squad as the season progressed, and whilst it would be nice to see how Faal might develop, if he couldn't be guaranteed game time with us in the Isthmian, it probably wouldn't change next season. Would be interesting to understand Beaney's decision, just because of his importance to the team over the last couple of seasons, but as has been said, there have been ongoing compatibility challenges in the make up of the midfield, and he came off the bench 12 times in the League - hardly an automatic first choice.
So whilst the coming season might well be one of consolidation, I think we should have every confidence that the club is preparing in the right way - from the organisational side ensuring we've got the right funding in place, to the management making sure we've got a team on the pitch that competes. Replacements will no doubt be found for departing players, and Braintree showed what can be achieved with assembling a squad including a good number of the better players from the level below last season (albeit it didn't work out so well for Welling the season before...). With Gavin and Junior's contacts in the game, I'm sure they'll be able to attract the players we need, both talent and leadership-wise.
At the risk of repeating myself, the club is entering a competition at the highest level in it's history, shackled with challenges that no-one else is going to face - as I said, a unique position. But who better to face up to that than a unique club like ours? My season ticket is ordered - I can't wait for August.
Made up highest level. Conference South didnt used to exist.
Exactly. When I started watching us in 1999, we were in the Isthmian Premier Division, one below the Conference. We've been here before.
Questioning is always better than blind loyalty, Mr Morath...
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