Dulwich Hamlet in the National League South - what trips are you looking forward to?

Discussion in 'Dulwich Hamlet FC' started by editor, May 7, 2018.

  1. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    I started this football comic in response to hearing - for the first time - three dickheads singing a racist-tinged chant at Cardiff City. The comic led to this site being created so maybe I should thank those guys :D

    Bluebird Jones the football comic with cartoons and strips based around the lives of Cardiff City FC football fans featuring Cardiff City, Bluebird Jones, 70s man, Splott Girl and Stupidface
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  2. sealion

    sealion Well-Known Member

    That's how it works at our place. There was a shit song about Leeds sung in retaliation, it didn't go down well with the majority and wasn't supported, within three seasons of playing them it had stopped.
    Last edited: May 17, 2018
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  3. Jules P

    Jules P #noprestonnoparty

    I've had season tickets at two clubs in my life; Torquay and Dulwich. That guy top right in the yellow and white shirt is called 'Pasty'. I think he used to be caretaker at my school, although my mates don't share the same memory.

    That is all.
  4. StephenMac

    StephenMac Well-Known Member

    Not really sure why sealion is getting stick for reporting his or her experiences.
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  5. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    Perhaps it's down to the very broad strokes he was employing.
  6. sealion

    sealion Well-Known Member

    It's okay :) Sort of expected it anyway from a few on here.
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  7. StephenMac

    StephenMac Well-Known Member

    Ok, but it's worth noting that there was considerable violence at play off semi-finals in the division below and above us in the last month. These numpty 'crews' do exist in Conference South and there's no harm in being aware of it. They may only turn up for the big games and they may be small in numbers but they are out there.

    That said, there are plenty in the Hamlet away support who aren't interested in looking for trouble but can look after themselves (for lack of a better expression) as well as look out for others in pink and blue. I don't think it's anything worth worrying about really.

    And I can't stop laughing at that Torquay photo.
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  8. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    Hopefully we'll just collectively laugh if faced with sad fucks like those buffoons in the Torquay 'crew.' :D
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  9. Christian Burt

    Christian Burt Well-Known Member

    In the mid-90s away to Yeovil a group of us verbally took on a significant number of racist home fans.
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  10. PartisanDulwich

    PartisanDulwich Well-Known Member

    I think this is an important issue to discuss, as I feared this was the main negative point about promotion

    Sure 90% of Clubs and fans will be just like those in the Bostick, friendly and welcoming, so we must not get out of proportion

    Its ironic that some of the banter directed at us refers to "what Northern Clubs" would make of us - well as recall when we met both Guiseley and Macclesfield both sets of fans and clubs had a great day out

    As for rainbow flags and black fans/players, well were not going to change our principles - principles endorsed by the FA and their respective clubs "allegedly"

    Yes, its true a few years back you could still hear the sexist "London is full of" song, sung, but as pointed out a witty response changed that, equally I recall at Hemel in the Cup some unpleasant sexist remarks aimed at the Clubs Physio were made - but it was called out (on here) and never happened again - even at Margate this year a couple of so called fans made homophobic remakes and were challenged imminently.

    We are always going to have fans of ex League clubs turning up with "baggage"

    As for Hamlet fans travelling away, sure we can reach out to Clubs/fans prior as we did before, best place to drink, fund raising events etc breaking down barriers and maybe misrepresentation's. and sure 90% will be just fine and welcoming - I think we need to work with Clubs where we may have concerns and also issue travel advice times etc so we can stick together and of course in the age of iphones etc record any incidents of concern

    As for away fans at KNK - really think we have to have paid stewards for key games and yes maybe stewards with body cam's

    We must not lose our family friendly atmosphere by allowing literally a handful of so called fans who still hark after the 70s to ruin what we have built - I get that many can handle themselves, but one unfortunate incident could put us back years that's why it needs to be discussed and plans made
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  11. Dulwich Mishi

    Dulwich Mishi Old Skool Terrace Dinosaur-embracing the new-veau!

    Can't quite put my finger on it...but there's something about that photo that appeals to me...;)
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  12. billbond

    billbond Well-Known Member

    Really i never heard there was any trouble at any games in them play offs
    Sad as the Hendon game at Tooting the other week was a joy.
    And fair play to the Hendon fans , stayed where we for the second half instead of going up the other end as one of the guys has health problems.
    Deep down was a little gutted not to be behind the end when the Hamlet won eventually, the rabble were something else.
    The Hendon boys were very sporting and spoke to a couple of them after the game

    Ref to trouble being like a few others on here and seeing lots of League football ive seen trouble at close quarters.
    All the times following Dulwich around not seen much at all thankfully, apart from many Years ago , traveling on a Dulwich coach to Enfield as we were coming out of the ground some bod threw a bottle that smashed one of the windows, the old southbury road ground
    And winning the Surrey senior cup final at Carsharlton a few Walton and Hersham fans had a go at a few of us one well known Dulwich fan at that time got punched but was over in seconds, plus we had Mrs Mitchell alongside us ha(one for the long term DH Fans that name)
    Oh and a older Dulwich fan bronco "the legend" once at Leytonstone brandished his umbrella in a rather aggresive manner at the referee
    Thats about it
  13. billbond

    billbond Well-Known Member

    Oh forgot as above reference to Billericay , after the game at their place this season i was called a "w......r" by two ricay fellows(i had a Dulwich cap on).
    why i do not know i had not spoken to them, no beef nothing.
    Some on here may have even seen/heard it as a few commented on it and snorted.
    One said "you handled that well" i think i just smiled and kept on walking
    I Did say to to them "its not that bad to get labeled that, there are worse things to be accused of"
    Actually it got a few laughs im proud to say(yeah i know it was maybe not that funny i think the 3-1 scoreline helped the quip get the reaction.

    I did not go into Danny Dyer mode thats for sure.
    Its funny im no shrinking violet or prude but ive never liked the Tits and Fanny song(Ive put the actual words down as the lady above as in her comments) either
    Just dont like it and never have
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  14. StephenMac

    StephenMac Well-Known Member

    Regarding the play offs, there was trouble at Hemel v Braintree in their semi. The other was the Isthmian South final (don't know why I said semi final) between the Casuals that are Corinthian and Walton. Both occured when opposing supporters were trying to be behind the same goal for the penalty shootouts. Wasn't at Hemel but you could see trouble was inevitable a mile off at Tolworth.

    Would never have happened in our final because, well, it was us and Hendon. And it would have taken 20 minutes to get from one end to the other anyway.
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  15. Son of Roy

    Son of Roy Thinks Gavin Rose is great

    Agree with that. The Sealion is clearly not saying abuse should not be challenged.

    Dulwich fans are a community and to be accepted requires us to behave according to common values. Anyone that doesn't comply gets challenged (like they did at the Margate away game). However opposition fans are not part of the Dulwich community so we might expect to find it more difficult to influence them. Indeed they might think they have succeeded in winding us up. Appealing to someone''s sense of decency, trying making someone feel bad about something they did depends on them having morals.

    I know not everyone on this forum is a Dulwich fan but it amazes me why some on here are quick to attack others without giving the benefit of the doubt. There is no motive for offending each other? We all support the same team!

    So when Dulwich fans sing "We hate Tooting and Mitcham, we hate Leatherhead too THEY'RE SCUM". Is that abuse or banter?
    Last edited: May 19, 2018
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  16. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    It just sounds silly while we currently owe Tooting our existence.
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  17. Jamie Wyatt

    Jamie Wyatt Well-Known Member

    Not half as silly as having cowbells & jangling keys!! :rolleyes:
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  18. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    Cowbells rule. We can never have enough cowbells in my opinion.
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  19. Roger D

    Roger D Well-Known Member

    Fun and games at Stevenage when we stopped their two year or so unbeaten at home record despite having a centre back in goal. A police escort back from Boreham Wood to the station by a car driving alongside us. To be fair that was to protect us from locals more than the home fans though some of them were interesting. That's about it in my time. Bognor didn't like us mind after one game to be fair.
  20. bringbackelmo

    bringbackelmo Well-Known Member

    I would be a bit worried about the stewarding at any Dulwich home games next term and think it would be advisable to have it beefed up a bit (for some games if not all). I looked around at the play-off final and there was barely anything, now it was all very good-natured but had something kicked off there would have been very little there to stop it.

    Of course you don't want anything that would detract from the overall experience of a Dulwich game, which is a real breath of fresh air, but you will almost certainly come across more morons next season than you're used to.
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  21. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    Looking at last year's attendances, there's not a great deal of difference to what we're used to, so I doubt if we're going to get many - if any - huge away followings travelling to the Kinky.

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  22. Dulwich Mishi

    Dulwich Mishi Old Skool Terrace Dinosaur-embracing the new-veau!

    No we don't! They've been VERY good to us...but there were other options. This was deemed best for The Hamlet.
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  23. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    It's a bloody great ground and I don't imagine any of the other options would have provided clear views for the 3,000+ who came for the final.
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  24. Cyclodunc

    Cyclodunc Where's the slam tent, mate?

    It’s not the size that counts
  25. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    It's all about the girth.
  26. Blitzwalker

    Blitzwalker Well-Known Member

    Don’t have a problem with the cow bells. But the jangling keys can do one.
  27. GregDHFC

    GregDHFC Well-Known Member

    As long as the cowbells are being hit in time.
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  28. G Man

    G Man Formerly of hard hat fame

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  29. Pink Panther

    Pink Panther Well-Known Member

    Exactly. This started out as a feelgood thread looking forward to visiting a few new clubs at a higher level and it's transformed into people speculating about everything that might be less enjoyable about playing at a higher level, which I find rather sad. We had 500 or so Hendon fans for the play-off final, and 1,000 Maidstone fans a few years back when they needed a result to be crowned champions, and there was no bother at all. I think people need to focus on this and remember it before anticipating any problems that may never materialise, just because a few keyboard warriors have been spouting off on obscure messageboards. I bet most of those individuals wouldn't even have the balls to repeat their ignorant remarks to our faces.

    With the exception of Torquay this is not a division full of big shot clubs who have tradtionally always played in a higher league than ourselves. Our new division didn't exist until 2004, and until we were relegated from the Isthmian Premier Division three years before that, a lot of these clubs were regular league opponents of ours. Billericay, Dartford, East Thurrock, Hampton, Oxford City, Slough, St Albans, Wealdstone and Woking have all been Isthmian league opponents in the past. Others such as Bath, Chelmsford, Gloucester and Welling have played at the same level in the Southern League. Most of the remainder - Chippenham, Concord, Eastbourne Borough, Hemel Hempstead, Hungerford, Truro, Weston-super-Mare - were traditionally county league clubs that have only climbed the pyramid during the last 15 years or so, coinciding with Hamlet slipping back and spending the previous decade stuck in the Isthmian D1S. With the exception of Woking and Torquay none of these clubs had a higher average attendance than the Hamlet last season, and most of them aren't really "bigger" than the likes of Margate, Tonbridge, Worthing, Enfield Town etc., they're just commercially stonger and have managed to make progress during a time when the league structure has evolved rapidly, and stay there. We may well encounter a few idiots along the way, but that was always the case in the Isthmian League. They're relatively few and far between and I don't see the point in worrying about them at this point, we'll just have to deal with it if/when it happens as we always have in the past.

    I shall miss the Suffolk trips, and without exception I thought the five Suffolk clubs we visited over the past five seasons - Bury, Leiston, Lowestoft, Needham Market and Sudbury - were all excellent hosts, and provided an excellent day out. Instead we have a similar number of opponents in the South West, and at this stage I see no reason to think we won't enjoy visiting them just as much.
    Last edited: May 20, 2018
  30. clog

    clog she seems to like to nitpick and moan a lot

    Tbf I don’t think I’ve given sealion any stick, just given my opinion.

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