Dulwich Hamlet History Notes

Champion Hill WW2
Champion Hill
Hammersmith Squadron V Wandsworth Squadron
May 1945

 

Programme for Dulwich Hamlet V Bristol City in Youth FA Cup February 1995

refers to

Bristol City having never played the Hamlet (previously) at Champion Hill.

However they note Bristol City played Millwall reserves in 1994

and "back in 1983 Bristol City visited the second champion hill stadium for an FA cup match with Corinthian casuals,
quote "a match some Dulwich fans have memories of and which is still talked about today"

I believe from quick look at internet, some Millwall fans turned up uninvited

result was 0-0 Corinthians losing 4-0 in the replay

Dulwich hamlet Youth FA Cup team

Edwin Appiah, Wayne Austin, Denver Birmingham, Tony Chin, Allen Fitchett, Ricahard Galloway, Derron Herman, Tony Leary, Steve Lewington, Rodney McLean, Adam Monger, John Phillips, Bobby Rose, Trevor Speller, John Seeds, Steve Wiszk

 

As I understand it...they were very much, ahem, 'invited'!

 

I edited that proggie. I wasn't living in London when the match was played but believe Millwall fans were invited down to "protect" Champion Hill by someone handing out flyers at Euston as they returned from a northern match the previous week. Think it was that one I upset Mishi by using the headline "The Secretary speaks!" on his column as though it was some sort of miracle.

Some decent players in that team. Orient wanted Denver Bermingham but couldn't find him to sign him. Tony Chinn made numerous first team appearances, a couple more probably should have done but it wasn't to be.

 

what was the approx attendance for Corinthians V Bristol city ??
no record I can see ?? approx just out of interest

 

Corinthians merged with The Casuals in 1939.

I think the Corinthian-Casuals attendance, from memory was between 2,500 and under 3,000.

I was merely 'Youth Team Secretary' at the time.

And the leaflets were distributed around Kings Cross, and certain boozers down the Old Kent Road area, as I 'vaguely' understand it!

 

from my own personal collection, of interest as love a bit of the hamlet and Lived in Nunhead for a while
shame would have been a good rivalry if they were still about, No numbers you will see but the Legend that is Edgar kail up front

 

The club notes at the top of that issue make for interesting reading. There were a few similar comments in local newspapers in the first twenty or so years of the club

 

Ossie Bayram scored two goals a game in five consecutive games for Dulwich Hamlet in September 1982

 

A future full international and England team manager playing at champion hill in amongst the England side on this day V the Germans

 

Are their any records of Dulwich hamlets attendances ?
Esp say from 1967 onwards ? any books, online etc

 

simple answer no (just the odd game) as far as I am aware see the attendance thread on Urban

 

1925 London Senior Cup (recalled) Dulwich Hamlet V Clapton

Programme 1945 and team sheet 1945

 

22 September 1945 Dulwich hamlet V Corinthian Casuals

Dulwich Hamlet at home but had to play in white (shirts/strip) because Casuals were playing in chocolate and pink because of Isthmian League rules

 

Having the home team change kit in the event of a clash was common practice in rugby union before they had a league structure, but I had not heard of it in football before, especially not in a league, where presumably there would be a league handbook with the teams' colours listed. I think the reason used in rugby union was that many fixtures were arranged on an ad hoc basis, so the visitors might not know the home team's colours, and you could not expect them to bring more than one kit on the off chance of a clash, whereas the home team would have access to a spare kit.

 

It was the rule in the London Senior Cup as recently as the early 1980s. It had obviously switched to the away team being required to change for Isthmian League matches by the 1950s as there's a photo of us playing Casuals at The Oval in the mid-fifties in which Hamlet are playing in white shirts. (Or maybe that was a London Senior cup match?)

 

Juventus played at home vs. Porto tonight in a changed strip.

 

In October 1989

Dulwich Hamlet played Merthyr Tydfil in the FA Cup - 4Q

drawing 1-1 at home* (Paul Williams) (attendance 385)
and losing in the replay
4-2 at Merthyr Tydfil (Martin Gillings and Wayne O'Dwyer) (attendance 2,027

But why was the home game played at Fisher ?

 

Any thoughts at looking into getting a Southwark blue plaque at 57 Alleyn Park for "Lorraine 'Pa' Wilson founder of Dulwich Hamlet FC"?
Of course, the current owner might not like the idea...

 

The old Champion Hill ground was all but comdemned....the safety certificate at a ground that was widely acknowledged as having a 30,000 capacity in it's pre-war heyday, was cut to 300, post- Hillsborough, and for a time only the centre of the old main stand could be used for spectators. Thus this tie was switched to Salter Road.

I'm surprised you don't recall, as such a long standing fan, but I guess time flies & it's easy to forget.

 

What are the sources for these?

 

The badge and season ticket were on twitter

 

Thank you,any more details? Original poster? Their source?

 

Two famous names from the past
In cig card form ,Both played for England in full internationals