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Dulwich Hamlet 1-3 Bognor Regis - 8th October 16 - Trade Union Day

ForwardHamlet

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People used to care about the collective. Being a part of a football crowd used to be a bit like being part of a union with solid values. Nowadays it seems both are more about the indidivual than the collective.

Hence wankers. Are we looking at the cause of the destruction of the "rabble"?

That no one seems to give a shit about the collective anymore. Certainly only Lucy Fur Dulwich Mishi ForwardHamlet amongst others you could trust to have your back. I wouldn't trust too many of the newbies. Wankers.
Someone said this to me yesterday, when I was struggling to explain what's happened over the past 18 months or so. It's pretty much bang on.

"The initial nouveaux wave was individual weirdos and oddballs, the kind of people who never previously fit anywhere, the kind of people eccentric/bored/lonely enough to go to a small non-league club and "find something there". In the 70s we'd have started the early punk bands. But more recently, it's been established groups of friends, more normal people, who don't need to mingle and often view us with amusement."

To the old school DHFC fans - I have utmost respect for all of you and any conversations I have with nouveaux fans re how the crowd mix has changed over the past couple of years obviously do not apply to you. It's more a reflection on the type of people that are now being attracted - the 2013 new DHFC fan is a very different beast (on the whole) to the 2015 onwards new fan. You're all still the same, and we love you for it.
 

Monkeygrinder's Organ

Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
"The initial nouveaux wave was individual weirdos and oddballs, the kind of people who never previously fit anywhere, the kind of people eccentric/bored/lonely enough to go to a small non-league club and "find something there". In the 70s we'd have started the early punk bands. But more recently, it's been established groups of friends, more normal people, who don't need to mingle and often view us with amusement."
For me the 'earlier nouveaux wave' (for want of a better phrase...) might have included weirdos and oddballs but it also included a lot of people who had put in a lot of hours at a lot of (often lower league and non-league) football matches. For me it had the better bits of going to watch Lincoln City without the decades of accumulated bitterness some people have there and much closer to home. I really don't think that's the case with the majority of the newer people (I'm sure a lot of them have watched a lot of Liverpool/Man U on TV).

That's not to slag anyone off - there's nothing wrong with not having spent loads of miserable Saturdays on crumbling terraces in the rain, and the older fans could just as easily complain about us - but it does change the atmosphere IMO and when you get a load of people waving their keys around it does make me cringe a bit.
 
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Pink Panther

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There's a sticker in the gents' under the stand that reads "AGAINST MODERN FOOTBALL - endorsed by..." with a picture of Jurgen Klopp. Presumably placed there by someone with delusions so big they can be seen from space.
Surely John Beck, Graham Taylor and Dave Bassett would be more appropriate on that sticker than Klopp!
 

vornstyle76

Vorn Chic Vorn Genre
For me the 'earlier nouveaux wave' (for want of a better phrase...) might have included weirdos and oddballs but it also included a lot of people who had put in a lot of hours at a lot of (often lower league and non-league) football matches. For me it had the better bits of going to watch Lincoln City without the decades of accumulated bitterness some people have there and much closer to home. I really don't think that's the case with the majority of the newer people (I'm sure a lot of them have watched a lot of Liverpool/Man U on TV).
I don't think weirdos and people who'd been to football before are mutually exclusive.
 

clog

she seems to like to nitpick and moan a lot
To the old school DHFC fans - I have utmost respect for all of you and any conversations I have with nouveaux fans re how the crowd mix has changed over the past couple of years obviously do not apply to you. It's more a reflection on the type of people that are now being attracted - the 2013 new DHFC fan is a very different beast (on the whole) to the 2015 onwards new fan. You're all still the same, and we love you for it.
I'm a 2014 new fan so not sure where that puts me.
 

all to nah

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As some of you might know I'm publishing a weekly mini-perzine about my life in Barcelona this season. The 9th issue is about the last weekend and will come in pink and blue. It's written in (very german) English. If you're interested in it, send a mail to blau-zine@gmx.de and I'll send you the pdf-file and an introduction. The zine will be available at the Megacontainer as well - more information will follow.

 
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