Dulwich Hamlet 1-3 Bognor Regis - 8th October 16 - Trade Union Day

Discussion in 'Dulwich Hamlet FC' started by Fingers, Sep 6, 2016.

  1. Scutta

    Scutta Live Fast Die Bizarre

    you should read the spin off about the trust too :thumbs: :D
     
  2. vornstyle76

    vornstyle76 Vorn Chic Vorn Genre

    Just one more thing... "the refugee stuff" is much more political than this event. It is an on-going political controversy that results in people dying, people living in misery. The refugee collection etc. played a small but collectively important role in raising awareness, arguing the politically controversial corner and physically alleviating some of the worst extremes of that misery.

    In contrast: Trade union membership is about 6.4 million in the UK, it remains a common part of day-to-day life, and the Spanish Civil War is safely historic having ending 77 years ago.
     
  3. Fingers

    Fingers From Tuscany SE22

    This highlighted, and the rest of his post.
     
  4. Christian Burt

    Christian Burt Well-Known Member

    I've only just got back to the office after a really nasty three week illness.

    As highlighted by Vornstyle, membership of Trade Unions is at nearly six and a half million. Without wanting to sound like some prat in marketing, that itself is a great reason to have a promotion of TUs with a discounted rate. Which is probably why both the football committee and trust committee members had absolutely no problem with this.

    I'm with Unite, if I get in half price I won't be complaining.

    And as an aside, surely everyone knows each other on here, at the very least through a quick chat: so some of the personal stuff *nothing worse than a forum descending into eff this and eff that* is uncalled for.

    Draw a line time.
     
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  5. Lucy Fur

    Lucy Fur Well-Known Member

    Bloody hippy ;) Glad you're feeling better mate, are you down on Saturday?
     
  6. Christian Burt

    Christian Burt Well-Known Member

    Unsure mate - probably missing most of this month for work reasons too
     
  7. Lucy Fur

    Lucy Fur Well-Known Member

    Shame, hopefully see you soon.
     
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  8. Scutta

    Scutta Live Fast Die Bizarre

  9. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model every man and every woman is a star

    it really isn't 'safely historic'. on one level being as people still argue over e.g. the french revolution, the british civil wars of the 17th century, not to mention the reformation, something which happened within living memory isn't in fact dead. secondly, the franco regime only ended in 1975, which many of us here can still remember. and thirdly the shadow of the franco regime and the spanish civil war still falls across spanish society today. just because something doesn't greatly affect us in our everyday lives in the uk doesn't mean it is safely and solely historical.
     
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  10. Dulwich Mishi

    Dulwich Mishi Old Skool Terrace Dinosaur-embracing the new-veau!

    "I'm with Unite, if I get in half price I won't be complaining."

    Though, we do, of course, welcome all current Hamlet fans to pay the full rate admission if they can do so, in support of the Club. If the income drops substantially it may have an effect on future promotions.

    Yes, we do this because it's right, and promotes the Club, but it's also aimed at attracting new support....but go with your conscience, comrades! ;)
     
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  11. Cyclodunc

    Cyclodunc Where's the slam tent, mate?

    Who is arguing about the British civil war?
     
  12. Dulwich Mishi

    Dulwich Mishi Old Skool Terrace Dinosaur-embracing the new-veau!

    If you mean the English Civil War then Dulwich was actually one of the few places in London loyal to the crown!
     
  13. Christian Burt

    Christian Burt Well-Known Member

    My own personal austerity probably means I'll claim the half-price!!
     
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  14. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model every man and every woman is a star

    london was considerably smaller at the time and some miles from dulwich. not to mention that slavish loyalty to the crown at that time not something to be boasting of.
     
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  15. Scutta

    Scutta Live Fast Die Bizarre

    Bloody tories and housing costs! ..... oh shit wrong thread!!:D:thumbs:
     
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  16. Scutta

    Scutta Live Fast Die Bizarre

    I really hope this thread morphs into an argument about this. YTC now time for your popcorn gif.
     
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  17. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model every man and every woman is a star

    civil warS. there was not one simple 'english civil war' being as there was stuff going on in scotland, wales, ireland too. and lots of people are, historians most notably but also other people - people like the levellers, the people who go to burford every year. there was a demonstration outside parliament a couple of weeks ago by irish republicans against the cromwell society's annual wreath laying, against there being a statue of cromwell outside parliament at all. it's not as dead as you seem to think.
     
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  18. Thimble Queen

    Thimble Queen person of tinge

    These people just need to move on :D :thumbs:
     
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  19. Joe K

    Joe K no al calcio con orchestra di ukulele

    <Takes question at face value>

    The English Civil War, and the broader wars in Britain around the time, tend to be interpreted across fault lines based on politics (i.e. left-wingers following Christopher Hill's argument that the ECW was a class war despite its putatively religious basis; liberals and right-wingers insisting this is too rigid a reading). You've also got the ongoing controversy around the Nairn-Anderson thesis that the ECW was an 'incomplete bourgeois revolution' which means that England has never undergone an event similar to, say, the French Revolution to bring its politics into full liberal modernity. Whether or not you agree with this has implications for contemporary political practice.

    As Pickman's Model says, there are also huge issues around memorialisation/ commemoration, particularly in Ireland, and I also think there's been an ideological commandeering of this whole idea of Cavalier sassiness/ sexiness/ flashiness by right-wingers like Boris Johnson in recent years - I've certainly seen it as a stick used to beat alleged 'Roundheads' like Corbyn for their alleged 'dourness'.

    (Sorry, I'm teaching Milton next week and this seemed a good place to rehearse some ideas.)
     
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  20. Christian Burt

    Christian Burt Well-Known Member

    Swaggering dandies is definitely cavalier-esque
     
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  21. Joe K

    Joe K no al calcio con orchestra di ukulele

    Picks up petrol can, holds it, poised, over fire:

    BUT THE CAVALIERS WERE BAD TORIES
     
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  22. Monkeygrinder's Organ

    Monkeygrinder's Organ Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager

    I blame that Pink Panther with his swanky Charles I affectations.:(
     
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  23. Thimble Queen

    Thimble Queen person of tinge

    There is no other kind.
     
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  24. Joe K

    Joe K no al calcio con orchestra di ukulele


    Sorry, there was a second or third layer of basically aimless parody in that about the Scouser/ Manc tendency to put a redundant 'bad' in front of things that are already bad, i.e. 'someone's being a bad dickhead on this thread, like'.
     
  25. Cyclodunc

    Cyclodunc Where's the slam tent, mate?

    the levellers need to stop worrying about this and concentrate on making music again
     
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  26. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model every man and every woman is a star

    ftfy
     
  27. Lucy Fur

    Lucy Fur Well-Known Member

    No....no they don't. There is no requirement for any new levellers material, and precious little for that which exists.
     
  28. Effra Eyes

    Effra Eyes Active Member

    Don't know about anyone else, but after reading this thread, I'm really looking forward to Dog Day
     
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  29. Cyclodunc

    Cyclodunc Where's the slam tent, mate?

    Can someone start up a british civil wars thread please?
     
  30. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model every man and every woman is a star

    You're showing leadership tendencies, you do it
     
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