The smart move train-wise if you're leaving central London might be Southeastern trains from Victoria to Denmark Hill at 1818, 1822, 1839, 1909 and a stroll down Champion Hill via the Phoenix.

Reminds me of a Sky Sports commentary of a Reading v Manchester United game the season Reading finished miles adrift at the bottom of the Premier League.
Clash of the titans finished 0-0. Entertaining stuff, lots of chances, we were more than a match for them.
We hit crossbar and the post, they had one come back off base of the post with our keeper beaten (from youth team? Wasn't Preston).
New central defence partnership with Weatherstone and Chambers looked solid, Sanchez Ming impressed at right back, Beaney industrious in centre mid.
Lively no 7 (Abolano?) looked good, played on both wings but didn't last more than 30 mins before coming off injured, Nyren replacing him.
Sandy Cunningham looked like he is enjoying his time at Hamlet so far and got stuck right in. Fills the 5'2" hole left by Ethan then Deano nicely.
Enjoyable evening, decent crowd, nice atmosphere. Took me 10 mins to get in but serves me right for turning up at kickoff. Didnt go to the bar but people around seemed to be enjoying a pint or two. Mega shed looked good too!
Agree, was disappointed to see the no 7 go off so early as he made a very lively start.
The young keeper (Hoca) looked very solid and made some important saves.
Tomlin wasn't as impressive as he was on Saturday but still showed glimpses of real quality.
Danny Carr looks like he really needs a couple of goals to build the confidence... I was gutted for him when he hit the post!
Agreed. An entertaining match against decent opposition. Thought Cunningham, Carr, Weatherstone and Green all looked very good last night and Chambers looks like a like-for-like replacement for Pinnock.
The number 7 isn't Cani after all but I think he looks very capable and it was a shame to see come off after 30 mins.
Some very promising appearences at the end from Fernandes and Batula and great to see Drage warming up.
No Omar Koroma which was a bit odd bearing in mind he put Bromley to the sword on Saturday. Hopefully he's still around.
All very encouraging, roll on Thursday.
Clash of the titans finished 0-0. Entertaining stuff, lots of chances, we were more than a match for them.
We hit crossbar and the post, they had one come back off base of the post with our keeper beaten (from youth team? Wasn't Preston).
New central defence partnership with Weatherstone and Chambers looked solid, Sanchez Ming impressed at right back, Beaney industrious in centre mid.
Lively no 7 (Abolano?) looked good, played on both wings but didn't last more than 30 mins before coming off injured, Nyren replacing him.
Sandy Cunningham looked like he is enjoying his time at Hamlet so far and got stuck right in. Fills the 5'2" hole left by Ethan then Deano nicely.
Enjoyable evening, decent crowd, nice atmosphere. Took me 10 mins to get in but serves me right for turning up at kickoff. Didnt go to the bar but people around seemed to be enjoying a pint or two. Mega shed looked good too!
Has Oshane Brown left the club?
Didn't attend last night and certainly not wanting to criticise anyone but surely it was obvious that a game against recently-relegated premier league opposition would attract a good crowd? Especially after close to 400 for Bromley? Edit: also taking into account the general increase in crowds over last few seasons.TBH the crowd did come as something of a shock not far short of 700, by comparison the Charlton Athletic preseason game on a Saturday attracted a crowd of 754.
Not really seeing as their 'proper' team were playing the same night in Lowestoft.Didn't attend last night and certainly not wanting to criticise anyone but surely it was obvious that a game against recently-relegated premier league opposition would attract a good crowd? Especially after close to 400 for Bromley? Edit: also taking into account the general increase in crowds over last few seasons.
I meant the way the players had lined up rather than my own compositional skills!That's because you took it.
Didn't attend last night and certainly not wanting to criticise anyone but surely it was obvious that a game against recently-relegated premier league opposition would attract a good crowd? Especially after close to 400 for Bromley? Edit: also taking into account the general increase in crowds over last few seasons.
All fair points, as usual.Taking into account that Bromley have enjoyed similar increase in crowds to us, there's a longstanding rivalry between our two clubs, they are just over the border from us and it was promised pretty much their first team squad on a Saturday albeit an early kickoff that game would be expected to be the bigger of the two. Was actually a little disappointed by the crowd expecting 100 or 200 more than that.
Contrast that with Norwich which they did not include on the list of main friendlies but on their Under 21s and that they were taking the First Team to Lowestoft for Micky Chapman's testimonial there as well as sending an Under 18 team to Ely Town for another friendly that night you could understand why smaller crowd might be expected. Just goes to show there's a lot more Canaries exiled in London than I believed.
Preseason games are notoriously difficult to predict attendance wise. TBH so are some regular league games, still stunned by that 2,500 turnout for Lewes!
Norwich have loads of London-based fans - surprised the bar was so unprepared for it. We saw how bad it was and just didn't bother buying.
No one is going to do anything about it. Probably will cost the club as much if not more as the whole estate agent sponsorship.
We had the problem for how long?
Its pre-season!
Bit strange to complain about the increased crowds and in same instance say the KFH sponsorship is costing the club? As for London-based fans could say the same of Bromley, Charlton, Millwall & Palace. As mentioned previously the gate against Charlton last season provided a bench mark for a preseason gate against an XI with a crowd only about 100 more than last night and that being played on a Saturday.