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Dulwich...dead posh innit!!!

jbob said:
Yeah, it was better the last time I went in (as long as you avoid the w/e beer garden overrun with screaming children).

It's the only pub I've ever been to which has a baby changing mat in the ladies' bathroom :D
 
Skim said:
East Dulwich is ok, but the village is horrendous – one of those area in London which desperately wants to be in the countryside. I'm thinking Barnes, Hampstead, Blackheath – all insufferably twee places. No real shops, just some overpriced gourmet deli and an organic baby clothes emporium.

Clapham and Battersea do have their posh bits, but they're nowhere near as smug as Dulwich Village...

Well, they all were villages at one point :confused:

None of those places were as you describe 20 years ago, it's only recently that the useless shops catering for tourists have sprung up. Barnes, Hampstead and Dulwich have always been posh, but Blackheath has changed quite dramatically. I like them as places to visit as they're something different, and all those areas have decent pubs.
 
Skim said:
East Dulwich is ok, but the village is horrendous – one of those area in London which desperately wants to be in the countryside. I'm thinking Barnes, Hampstead, Blackheath – all insufferably twee places. No real shops, just some overpriced gourmet deli and an organic baby clothes emporium.

Clapham and Battersea do have their posh bits, but they're nowhere near as smug as Dulwich Village...

I don't really see what's horrendous about Dulwich Village:confused:
It's a really beautiful, peaceful place to walk around. I often go on a circular walk through Belair Park where there are lots of geese and ducks and squirrels, cut through the village into Dulwich Park and it's a lovely environment to stroll around in. London seems a million miles away and it's nice when you're stressed and need an bit of solitude. :)
 
sunflower said:
I don't really see what's horrendous about Dulwich Village:confused:
It's a really beautiful, peaceful place to walk around. I often go on a circular walk through Belair Park where there are lots of geese and ducks and squirrels, cut through the village into Dulwich Park and it's a lovely environment to stroll around in. London seems a million miles away and it's nice when you're stressed and need an bit of solitude. :)


Dulwich Park is nice enough, but the Village has such a staid atmosphere. I just find it dull and complacent – everyone's got the same SUV/Bugaboo pram, it's overwhelmingly white and affluent, there aren't many interesting shops/restaurants, there's no buzz, no life. All too genteel and restrained for my tastes – I grew up in a boring village and don't have any desire to be in a village atmosphere in London.

What I love about London is the clash of cultures and classes, its amazing diversity – I don't feel that when I'm in Dulwich Village, I just feel bored... :)
 
ChrisFilter said:
Well, maybe not loads of places, but it's got 3 medium-price places and 2 dead expensive places.. good enough choice for a sunday meal. The pizza express is actually (seemingly) a bit nicer than most.. maybe a better chef, who knows. Maybe it's just the new romana bases I like?

the meal we had in that Pilaf cafe was very nice, little pricy, £30 for the two of us, 2 mains, bottle of water and 2 coffees
 
Skim said:
Dulwich Park is nice enough, but the Village has such a staid atmosphere. I just find it dull and complacent – everyone's got the same SUV/Bugaboo pram, it's overwhelmingly white and affluent, there aren't many interesting shops/restaurants, there's no buzz, no life. All too genteel and restrained for my tastes – I grew up in a boring village and don't have any desire to be in a village atmosphere in London.

What I love about London is the clash of cultures and classes, its amazing diversity – I don't feel that when I'm in Dulwich Village, I just feel bored... :)

Fair play.. personally I love having the option of spending time in the peace and quiet and all round niceness of the place as much as I love having the option to spend the time at some dodgy rave. Variety n' all that.

Belair Park is lovely.. really quiet and understated, empty half the time.

Anyone check out the fair that was there last week? Tiny little Victorian number, but beautifully painted and maintained. Felt like a proper treat.
 
ChrisFilter said:
Fair play.. personally I love having the option of spending time in the peace and quiet and all round niceness of the place as much as I love having the option to spend the time at some dodgy rave. Variety n' all that.

Belair Park is lovely.. really quiet and understated, empty half the time.

Anyone check out the fair that was there last week? Tiny little Victorian number, but beautifully painted and maintained. Felt like a proper treat.

but but but ...fair + fairground people = burgalries ?:eek: :eek:

But the steam fair is pretty good

Belair or Burbellery/ bilberry house as its been renamed ( was renamed ? ) has the oddest resturant in the world when I went last year - French Japanse fusion:confused:

Wasbi monkfish = didnt work

£5 for a glass of beer didnt work either.
 
ChrisFilter said:
Anyone check out the fair that was there last week? Tiny little Victorian number, but beautifully painted and maintained. Felt like a proper treat.

Yeah, we stumbled on that by mistake... went up to the park (it's the only playground round here with baby swings) then ended up spending a couple of hours wandering round the stalls.

Dulwich Village wasn't all bad on that day – we had some very tasty burgers washed down with elderflower cordial then watched this awfully nice WI-type lady introduce a local hip-hop act on the stage :D It was fun.

I should add that I quite like East Dulwich. It's got a nice mix – a few upmarket shops, a few shabby ones, some nice bars and an unpretentious atmosphere...
 
I used to live in West Norwood, and then in Herne Hill, (rented room, not home ownership). We often used to walk into Dulwich. Yeah, nice place, but twee and expensive.

East Dulwich is a different kettle of fish though, if I recall right.
 
Skim said:
I must find that old-fashioned sweet shop I've heard about, though... :)
It's in North Cross Road, Off Lordship lane. I mentioned it earlier, it's called Hall and Greenwood and is next to the Blue Mountain Cafe. Also on the same road is the lovely little Thai Corner Cafe. It's very small and booking is recommended.
 
ChrisFilter said:
Anyone check out the fair that was there last week? Tiny little Victorian number, but beautifully painted and maintained. Felt like a proper treat.
Carters Steam Fair, we went on the Saturday and had a great time despite missing the fireworks. Like a proper old school fairground. Had a great atmostphere, there were loads of teenagers, but they were all really well behaved.
 
Maggot said:
It's in North Cross Road, Off Lordship lane. I mentioned it earlier, it's called Hall and Greenwood and is next to the Blue Mountain Cafe. Also on the same road is the lovely little Thai Corner Cafe. It's very small and booking is recommended.


I just found a feature about the place...

Life is sweet
 
Yeah, I used to live near Lordship Lane too. (I think I've lived just about everywhere in south London).

Is Lordship Lane Dulwich though, or is it more on the fringes?
 
electric.avenue said:
Yeah, I used to live near Lordship Lane too. (I think I've lived just about everywhere in south London).

Is Lordship Lane Dulwich though, or is it more on the fringes?

Starts in east dulwich, then leads up to Dulwich....not sure if it changes as it goes up though Lordship to me is always East Dulwich....from about EDT to Licorique (sp ):)
 
Top end of Lordship Lane

Lived at that end for years, just accross the street entrance to dulcich Park, so closer to village an all that than the main drag in Esat Dlwich proper, but never felt part of either really - more less thought of the area as The Plough, or Dulwich Library, about 300 yards down the hill from me, even the Common/Coxs walk, about 150 up it, towards Forrest Hill.
BTW, the chippt near where the S Circ meets Lordship is tops
 
hipipol said:
Lived at that end for years, just accross the street entrance to dulcich Park, so closer to village an all that than the main drag in Esat Dlwich proper, but never felt part of either really - more less thought of the area as The Plough, or Dulwich Library, about 300 yards down the hill from me, even the Common/Coxs walk, about 150 up it, towards Forrest Hill.
BTW, the chippt near where the S Circ meets Lordship is tops

Sorry, I can't understand a word of that. Any chance of translating into human?
 
zoltan69 said:
Inside 72 = best bar in the area - .


I dislike this place. its a bit like being in east london with a west london dresscode full of north london attitude situated in south london...
 
Dan U said:
I have no complaints about the Dulwich Estate, they are my landlord and they've barely put my rent up in 3 years and fix anything instantly with no complaints :D

It's a charity btw, and has been since 1619 set up on the back of the estate gifted by Edward Alleyne. He was an actor, not a Lord as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Alleyn

The stuff about the shop's is true though. The one's they own round my way can't have steel shutters for aesthetic reasons. No idea on the beer can's though :D
It was true a few years back when I worked in Dulwich Oddbins for a (highly underpaid) stretch. THe village was suffering a spate of daylight robberies and they wanted to hire more thugish looking staff than the usual dulwich-types - to my shame I fitted the bilL!

Didnt know that about the estate - interesting.
sir.clip said:
I dislike this place. its a bit like being in east london with a west london dresscode full of north london attitude situated in south london...
never been in there but good description ;0
 
zoltan69 said:
Inside 72 = best bar in the area - Bottles ofWiess beir and propa Lowenbrau on tap.

would be if you could ever get a seat:mad: and does have it's fair share of wacky shoreditch wannabees ..not been for a while though used to have the lovliest barmaid ever....mmmmh mmmmmh
 
Maggot said:
I likie North Cross Road, Blue Mountain, the sweetshop (Hall and Oates?), the Thai Corner Cafe are all great.

What was there before which was so good?

the blue mountain and the thai corner cafe have been there for years - at least 10. North Cross Road and Lordship lane used to be a lot scruffier though. I went there for the first time in years last week, and it was all a bit overwhelming.
 
corporate whore said:
That Dulwich College is a registered charity is a bit of a shocker.. it owns the freehold of pretty much everything from Half Moon Lane to Dulwich Plough :eek:

I'm don't think that the Dulwich Estate does own most of the freehold these days. Certainly it doesn't own the freehold for many of the houses in dulwich now and hasn't for a long time. I believe that people still need to pay a small amount to them though for general upkeep of the estate, but quite nominal. Also, it means that you need planning permission from them as well as the Council when doing anything, and their rules are stricter.
 
zoltan69 said:
but but but ...fair + fairground people = burgalries ?:eek: :eek:

But the steam fair is pretty good

Belair or Burbellery/ bilberry house as its been renamed ( was renamed ? ) has the oddest resturant in the world when I went last year - French Japanse fusion:confused:

Wasbi monkfish = didnt work

£5 for a glass of beer didnt work either.

The fair has been going for years and years. It's a real shame what they've done to Belair though, and god knows why they've renamed it. When I was young it was quite a scruffy place that used to be a venue for all sorts of things, such as activities and classes for children and elderly people. I think it was owned by the Councl at the time

http://www.melismasystems.co.uk/belair/history.shtml
 
Inside 72 is an utterly fantastic place not all Hoxtonite/Shorditchy - I can tell that by simply looking out the window where I am, it is to stare out yer office window at the foundry, now all covered in shite mega corp advertising hoardings - nope never seen any of them in Steve and Bevs bar
Its wonderful, but small, with the worlds oddest soundtrack
As for the "loviest" barmaid.... I suspect I know who you mean ... shes now the manager at the Rye Hotel!!!!!!!!!
The Centre of the Wandsworth Diaspora and only a short stagger accross the Rye from the Gardens - where all the as yet no-breeding specimins seem to live
 
Maggot said:
It's in North Cross Road, Off Lordship lane. I mentioned it earlier, it's called Hall and Greenwood and is next to the Blue Mountain Cafe. Also on the same road is the lovely little Thai Corner Cafe. It's very small and booking is recommended.
Skim said:
I just found a feature about the place...

Life is sweet
Popped into that sweet shop earlier in the year - it was rubbish, no fizz bombs and their sour drops weren't sour... :(

Thai Corner Cafe is well worth a visit though - lovely food :)
 
Anyone remember the name of the little tea shop at the park end of Carlton road.

Recommended for tea and lovely cakes before/after a stroll around the park.

Belair house is SHITE under it's new management.
 
kyser_soze said:
Belair house is SHITE under it's new management.



Um..

Its Beauberry house nowadays

Theyve toned down the japanese-french fusion side of the menu since I was there a few months ago, but their website still has these "favorites:

"Roast Black Cod with Black Bean Sauce £17.50

Tuna Spring Roll with Ginger and Coriander £8.50

Lobster Tempura with Ponzu and Wasabi Mayonnaise £22

Sea Bass Tempura with Shiso Leaves and Nori £7.50 "


If you want to see off duty footballers and those baby bentley things, then beaberry os the place to go
 
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