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i'm of the opinion that dubstep needs a very skillful dj to sound really good - it's a dj tool rather than something that you can really get into in individual tracks (like loop based techno in a lot of ways)... so the same tracks can sound dull and plodding when played wrong, but when cut & scratched to fuck, they can sound amazing.
 
killer b said:
i'm of the opinion that dubstep needs a very skillful dj to sound really good - it's a dj tool rather than something that you can really get into in individual tracks (like loop based techno in a lot of ways)... so the same tracks can sound dull and plodding when played wrong, but when cut & scratched to fuck, they can sound amazing.
I think you're spot on there.
The loop-based techno analogy is something I've been discussing with my housemate for a while. It's not so much fun to listen to the tracks individually but when mixed skillfully they build up to a serious heavy brooding storm of sub-bass that has enough variation over time to keep it driving....
The line-up for Forward on Thursday 16th Feb looks excellent:
Hatcha, N-Type and Geeneus
I'm hoping I can make it down to experience some of this fine DJing...
Though this would probably require that I win the lottery, or find some money in the street or something
 
they were calling all that plasticman stuff 'croydon techno' when it first appeared a couple of years back, so i'm not entirely original in that theory... but on the few occasions i've ever heard it played in clubs (not too often - the north is pretty barren for the grime scene), it's reminded me most of the likes of james ruskin, steve stoll etc.

forward is on a thursday isn't it? bummer. :(
 
killer b said:
they were calling all that plasticman stuff 'croydon techno' when it first appeared a couple of years back, so i'm not entirely original in that theory... but on the few occasions i've ever heard it played in clubs (not too often - the north is pretty barren for the grime scene), it's reminded me most of the likes of james ruskin, steve stoll etc.

forward is on a thursday isn't it? bummer. :(
Yeah, it's every 2nd Thursday, which isn't exactly convenient unless you live in [East] London...
But I really want to go and hear the loud loud bass- I'm convinced it'll take it to a whole new level :D
In the words of Mala:"You can't put man in a room, with no sub-woofers" :D
 
Having fridays off... i might try and get to a dubstep night on a thursday...a thursday you say...

ok...

i have a few dubstep 12s but i cant mix them very well yet... hopefully the scene is so young and underground if i spend enough money i could become a household name.
 
milesy said:
same here, what little i've listened to seems to be far too plodding-along for my liking....

bump...i've been having a bit more of an attentive listen - some good stuff out there. particularly like stuff on tempa records - just ordered a couple of mix CDs on that label. it's like breaks but with a bit more of an oomph and kick, not so bouncy and...studenty ;)
 
milesy said:
bump...i've been having a bit more of an attentive listen - some good stuff out there. particularly like stuff on tempa records - just ordered a couple of mix CDs on that label. it's like breaks but with a bit more of an oomph and kick, not so bouncy and...studenty ;)

check out hotflush, if you haven't done so already
 
William of Walworth said:
I'm into old school roots and dub along King Tubby style lines -- would I like this sort of thing??

<confused old fool mode>

easy peeps

the term dubstep came about as follows - as garage evolved, there came a point when people knew the sound was changing and it had a load of different names to describe it - sublow 8-bar grime 2step etc. grime became the dominant term but was mainly used to label the mc led e london scene. the s london scene which was centred round the club fwd and big appple records in croydon had a different more producer based sound - some (but not all) of it had a dub influence, hence the label dubstep.

if you like old dub, i reckon you'd be well into the sort of stuff that the digital mystics produce - lot of reggae vibes on there.

the three djs who really created the sound dj-wise are hatcha, youngstar and kode 9, who all dj on rinse fm 100.4 fm - you can get streams on www.rinsefm.com .

if you wanted an intro to the style on a more dubby tip you could do far worse than pick up dubstep all stars vol 3 mixed by kode 9 which has just come out. if you can get your hands on vols 1 + 2 you'd have a good little history of the style together.

you do have some dubstep producers whose rythms are more breaky - search and destroy, quiet storm - so they're output's called er...breakstep - the 'back to the underground' cd mixed by search and destroy is farkin excellent.

can get em from www.boomkat.com

loads of mixes at www.dubstepforum.com.

yeah - it's slow, but when you got a good system and a good dj it's very very heavy
 
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