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Drug dealing scumbags

yeah,, why dont we just give them a huge hit, so they all die, and stop interferring with your lives eh?



Perhaps you should just kick him out off the way,, then you could get on with your day
 
potential said:
well done goldman half of these wankers who post here
live in surbiton... a"
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Well done, have a biscuit. Amazing how many worms can come out of the woodwork.

For the record I lived on Saltoun Rd for 5 years, now live on an adjoining street, and don't recognise the over-exaggerated scene that the OP's suggesting, nor will have anything to do with the portrayal of people as 'vermin'. Many of the people you're condemning have been nothing but kind to me and LQ in the past - not everyone hanging out on that corner, as distasteful as you may find them, is a drugs dealer, let alone trading in hard drugs and misery.

Why move to a road like Saltoun and then moan about the 'nasty people' at the end of the road? Many of those folks have been in the same position, socialising or perhaps more, for over a decade...
 
tarannau said:
Why move to a road like Saltoun and then moan about the 'nasty people' at the end of the road? Many of those folks have been in the same position, socialising or perhaps more, for over a decade...
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That's a good idea - move somewhere else! I understand that Little Venice is quite free of crack addicts on the street - all behind closed doors round there - much more savory :)
 
tarannau said:
Well done, have a biscuit. Amazing how many worms can come out of the woodwork.

For the record I lived on Saltoun Rd for 5 years, now live on an adjoining street, and don't recognise the over-exaggerated scene that the OP's suggesting, nor will have anything to do with the portrayal of people as 'vermin'. Many of the people you're condemning have been nothing but kind to me and LQ in the past - not everyone hanging out on that corner, as distasteful as you may find them, is a drugs dealer, let alone trading in hard drugs and misery.

Why move to a road like Saltoun and then moan about the 'nasty people' at the end of the road? Many of those folks have been in the same position, socialising or perhaps more, for over a decade...
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Didn't moan about them until I discovered my front garden is crack central. Sure, there are perfectly normal types round here as well, not everyone is a lowlife. But having lived round here for long enough, i know that this road is plagued with all sort of nuisance behaviour, which the cops efffectively turn a blind eye to. Not good enough I'm afraid. Got back from a late shift last night about 2.30 am to see three hoodies and some crack whore 'socialising' on the corner. Nice.
 
goldman said:
Didn't moan about them until I discovered my front garden is crack central. Sure, there are perfectly normal types round here as well, not everyone is a lowlife. But having lived round here for long enough, i know that this road is plagued with all sort of nuisance behaviour, which the cops efffectively turn a blind eye to. Not good enough I'm afraid. Got back from a late shift last night about 2.30 am to see three hoodies and some crack whore 'socialising' on the corner. Nice.
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:) I do sort of symaphis with you actually,,
just as a recovering junkie,, I know how hard it is to get out of it,, and how shite life is on it,,,


but it cant be nice having them outside your house,,
maybe you should have choose your words better
 
goldman makes the point that he doesnt like the fack that he has to
step over a user to get in his front door and would like the windrush sq
building to be spruced up turned into something useful, and gets
shouted down that these poor crackheads its not there fault ???
these crack heads dont live in brixton they are attracted to the
area because of the easy access to drugs in brixton,
bang !!! the crime rate shoots up and dank-door ways get used
by users.... whats wrong with trying to get rid of drug dealers ?
and crack heads looking out for the slightest open window to steal for
there next fix... drug dealers are not what brixton is about !
why cant anyone just give a cheers thanks for sticking up
to the law abiding citizen ???
 
*Miss Daisy* said:
:) I do sort of symaphis with you actually,,
just as a recovering junkie,, I know how hard it is to get out of it,, and how shite life is on it,,,


but it cant be nice having them outside your house,,
maybe you should have choose your words better
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If I've chosen my words poorly, it's probably because I'm pretty pissed off at the moment and tend to rant about this subject - difficult to take an objective view when it seems like a personal affront.

Hope you recover fully
 
No Potential. You're getting shouted down because you're an intolerant, uninformed gimp who came up with a bone-numbingly predictable jibe about people from Surbiton rather than coming up with anything constructive. I don't think people have nearly been as dismissive as Goldman,well not since he stopped using such generalised, ranty terms.

Now here's a penny Potential. Go and buy yourself a sentence and stop coming up with the same old shite.
 
" coughs " on my biscuit you gave me...
constructive ? all you have done is stick up for drug dealers
and rant that you live in saltoun rd ? wot does that prove ?
i live in brixton but dont particualy want to be offered drugs
everytime i walk home... what wrong with that ???
you need to calm down....
 
potential said:
"i live in brixton but dont particualy want to be offered drugs everytime i walk home... what wrong with that ???
you need to calm down....
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I'm not frustrated or angry at all. I can even partly sympathise with your opinion that you don't want to be offered drugs on your way home.

But let's not revise history and play dumb - your original post on this thread:

potential
well done goldman half of these wankers who post here
live in surbiton... and think police who arrest crack-head
scum thieves are reactionary right wing nazis.....
moan about capitalist society.... then moan like spoilt
brats because there mum wont get the 4x4 out and drive
them to the surrey " communists against cafe nero in henley-high-st demo "
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Was a load of uninformed, stereotyped bollocks designed to cause some controversy. It didn't achieve anything other than identify you as a trolling numbskull best laughed at.
 
As I recall the dealers appeared at the end of Saltoun when CHL became a far more difficult street to deal on because of CCTV coverage and increased police activity.

Saltoun is ideal - poorly lit, loads of corners, and the road means cars can drive up, stop, deal, and move quickly on.

One possible partial solution is to block off the end the street to traffic. Not sure how the residents would feel about trading their access for better crime prevention.

Police may well have wanted to speak to the resident personally about his experience, but I reckon they're cleverer these days than to ask a member of the public to actually inform in this way. I seem to recall it all led to problems on Landor Road a few years ago when the defence in another case managed to get the list of witnesses.

I personally am fairly intimidated by the activity there. It's very threatening particularly late at night when you leave the cinema, to have to run the gauntlet of crew on that street. I can't imagine what it's like to live with it.

And of course the police should be on top of it. Are we suggesting that they shouldn't?
 
hendo said:
I personally am fairly intimidated by the activity there. It's very threatening particularly late at night when you leave the cinema, to have to run the gauntlet of crew on that street. I can't imagine what it's like to live with it.

And of course the police should be on top of it. Are we suggesting that they shouldn't?
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My girlfriend has only just moved in with me and she's fairly unimpressed with the whole scenario. The dealers themselves aren't exactly going to do anything heavy towards someone walking by - not in their interests to cause a scene - but their very presence attracts some really screwed up people to the street who could potentially be threatening - really aggressive begging etc.
No other road I've lived on in Brixton is as bad.

Cops so hopeless. There was a shooting a couple of months ago, not fatal, just someone taking pot shots at some rivaal crew. An officer knocked on my door the next day and asked me if I'd ever seen any suspicious activity on the road. C'mon Sherlock - you can do better than that!

Anyway the response to the firearms incident was to put up one of those big yellow signs which scare the shit out of people. Then the sign was promptly nicked the next day and tossed into the scrubland in front of the aforementioned derelict building. Where it still remains I believe.
 
hendo said:
As I recall the dealers appeared at the end of Saltoun when CHL became a far more difficult street to deal on because of CCTV coverage and increased police activity.

I personally am fairly intimidated by the activity there. It's very threatening particularly late at night when you leave the cinema, to have to run the gauntlet of crew on that street. I can't imagine what it's like to live with it.

And of course the police should be on top of it. Are we suggesting that they shouldn't?
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I'm afraid some of the older guys have been there for at least 15 years, so it's far from a recent development caused by people being flushed from Coldharbour.

Many of those apparently in the 'crew' as you put it aren't even particularly connected to the trade. Many of them are local kids - albeit some bloody big and imposing looking kids - who live down Saltoun Road and hang out there. You can argue that they shouldn't be there, particularly with the influences they're likely to come under, but you shouldn't try and restrict kids from 'playing' on their own road imo, no matter how frightening they look like to outsiders. What you going to do - ask the police to slap them an ASBO preventing them from socialising less than 10 doors from their house? It's not as though the police have the respect and trust of many of the longstanding residents (often council or ex council tenants)- the few constants amongst a street of many rented and often traded houses.

I don't like the hard drugs trade much either, nor the sad sight of addicts down the road I live in. But there seems to be an increasing tendency to portray all the people socialising at the end of Saltoun Road as intimidating, scummy crack dealers, which isn't my experience at all. In fact some of the older heads have been instrumental in calming down things down the road - they've 'rescued' me from chupsty local kids firing fireworks in my direction for example, helped carry my shopping home after a bag ripped and so on. They're not all angels for certain, but neither are they all a homogenous group of hulking terrible drug dealers that you should automatically be terrified of either.
:)
 
I lived in Kellett Road for a number of years prior to moving a few streets away, and I must disagree with you Tarannau, it does seem to me that the problem became way worse when the police moved on the situation outside the KFC. (Not that this problem has been solved. It's just moved to the remaining bus shelter hasn't it?)

I must take issue with you too about the idea that the dealers are 'kids playing out'. I'm familiar with kids playing out, and socialising. But what's going on at the top of that street looks like neither, with respect.

I can't see that this 'socialising' or 'playing' would occur in sub zero temperatures at half eleven at night, and involve discussion with drivers through their car windows. Or the heavy eye contact, the offering of skunk, or the sexual remarks that my gf has from time to time been subjected to.

I think we both know what this kind of activity means, and I'm sorry you feel that I'm misrepresenting what is undoubtedly a distressing situation for virtually everyone involved.
 
hendo said:
I must take issue with you too about the idea that the dealers are 'kids playing out'. I'm familiar with kids playing out, and socialising. But what's going on at the top of that street looks like neither, with respect.

I can't see that this 'socialising' or 'playing' would occur in sub zero temperatures at half eleven at night, and involve discussion with drivers through their car windows. Or the heavy eye contact, the offering of skunk, or the sexual remarks that my gf has from time to time been subjected to.

I think we both know what this kind of activity means, and I'm sorry you feel that I'm misrepresenting what is undoubtedly a distressing situation for virtually everyone involved.
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Hendo - I can guarantee that some of at least of them are local kids playing out. Two of the most familar older teens you'll see on that stretch are kids that I've know since they were nippers (we used to serve their folks food!). I can see their friends joining them from houses down Saltoun Road, even see them togged up for school in the morning.

With the greatest of respect, I walk down that road a hell of a lot of times at night - I now live just down Rattray and it's the natural way home - and very rarely see big groups of people later at night in this weather. It does happen - not everyone has the luxury of a comfortable pad and stable family environment to retire to - and I'd largely be in agreement that many of the folks you see currently late on are not up to much good. However, I rarely see imposing mobs of people late at night at the moment, more an isolated one or two people.

In summer and I guarantee that there'll be a lot more people out there and a hell of a lot of people who will not be directly connected to the trade, yet may seem threatening as a group, even disrespectful to some passers by. I'll even admit to feeling a little uncomfortable myself at times now, but it'd be rich for me to be too critical - I used to hang out with a big mob of us on nearby streets when I was a teen and I suspect we probably provoked similar reactions.
 
Living on Saltoun Road, it's safer to walk home down CHL, along Atlantic and up, instead of running the gauntlet of that corner. Several of the lovely "old guys" have even moved away to the "peace garden" (and yes, I've spoken to them about it). The old dealers are one thing, the kids on corner of Saltoun and Rattray are another (harmless). What Goldman is referring to is something else altogether. And it's not good, for anybody.
 
potential said:
well done goldman half of these wankers who post here
live in surbiton... and think police who arrest crack-head
scum thieves are reactionary right wing nazis.....
moan about capitalist society.... then moan like spoilt
brats because there mum wont get the 4x4 out and drive
them to the surrey " communists against cafe nero in henley-high-st demo "
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No, actually I live and work in Brixton. For a drugs service, trying to do something about drug problems. What do you do?
 
potential said:
yeah give them a pat on the back and slip em a fiver
so they can get a " cough, cough " cup of tea ?
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Before you make a fool of yourself any further, I suggest you find out a little about the subject first.
 
tarannau said:
Hendo - I can guarantee that some of at least of them are local kids playing out. Two of the most familar older teens you'll see on that stretch are kids that I've know since they were nippers (we used to serve their folks food!). I can see their friends joining them from houses down Saltoun Road, even see them togged up for school in the morning.

With the greatest of respect, I walk down that road a hell of a lot of times at night - I now live just down Rattray and it's the natural way home - and very rarely see big groups of people later at night in this weather. It does happen - not everyone has the luxury of a comfortable pad and stable family environment to retire to - and I'd largely be in agreement that many of the folks you see currently late on are not up to much good. However, I rarely see imposing mobs of people late at night at the moment, more an isolated one or two people.

In summer and I guarantee that there'll be a lot more people out there and a hell of a lot of people who will not be directly connected to the trade, yet may seem threatening as a group, even disrespectful to some passers by. I'll even admit to feeling a little uncomfortable myself at times now, but it'd be rich for me to be too critical - I used to hang out with a big mob of us on nearby streets when I was a teen and I suspect we probably provoked similar reactions.
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I lived on Kellett Road for ten years, and it seems to me that in the last couple of years the situation on Windrush Square/top of Saltoun road has degenerated. I used to walk home that way every night and rarely felt intimidated. Now I would rather go down Coldharbour Lane after a night out a the Ritzy, rather than run the gauntlet of the Windrush Square dealers.
 
Blagsta said:
and push it somewhere else. Not really a solution is it?
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Well just letting the building rot until any attempt to redevelop it would result in it being completely demolished like The Queen doesn't seem very clever. Letting crack dealers stand around there all night isn't a solution either. That's the police attitude - as long as it's contained and we know about it's OK.

What crap.

Refurbishing that building, keeping the original style but turning it into flats would generally smarten the area up, dealers might not hang out there so much and most people would be a lot happier.

It's a fucking eyesore at the moment, a waste of space just like the majority of people who hang aroud there.
 
goldman said:
If there's ever been a good reason to generally smarten up and dare I say it gentrify certain areas of Brixton, the vile parasites that hang around the corner of Saltoun Road and Windrush square must certainly be it. These sorry vermin crawl 0out at night and sell crack to junkies, and the cops do nothiong about it.
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Hiya Tom

Back so soon?
 
I agree

I agree with the general sympathy that things are getting worse. I live in Josephine Avenue and we now have prostitutes regularly parading our street to support their drug habit. This is not the Brixton I moved to 19 years ago and I think residents have every right to complain.
 
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