Dowie sacked
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Chow Yun-Fat
Suburban & transport only
I love the way the BBC used that pic of him with an earpiece - very Stavros. SJ's now strangely supportive of Dowie - but that gave him a chance to nibble the Charlton board, so maybe not so surprising. It's personal at board level, I believe.
I used to quite like Charlton too. Even though they never forgave us for renting them a pitch every other Saturday. Ho hum.
Dowie to Luton could be a bet. Newell won't be there too long.
I used to quite like Charlton too. Even though they never forgave us for renting them a pitch every other Saturday. Ho hum.
Dowie to Luton could be a bet. Newell won't be there too long.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Looks like Les Reed has the job permanently:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/charlton_athletic/6146620.stm.
Anyone else have no idea who he is?
Anyone else have no idea who he is?
Monkeygrinder's Organ said:Looks like Les Reed has the job permanently:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/charlton_athletic/6146620.stm.
Anyone else have no idea who he is?
yes
Dirty Martini
gets what he cant want
RaverDrew said:But Jordan is not happy about him leaving with the money, hence the courtcase.
It's all about the timescale. Presumably Jordan didn't think that Dowie would never manage another club again, just that it would be in the north and wouldn't happen so soon. Doesn't mean that Charlton tapped him up though. I'm no legal expert but I'd say Jordan is on shaky ground. I find the writ a bit of an embarrassment tbh; Jordan stays just this side of embarrassing for me, but I still think he's a bit of a tit.
Chow Yun-Fat
Suburban & transport only
He's a complete tit! But in an entertaining way, and generally seems to have the interests of the club somewhere in his thinking. The Geoff Thomas match was a perfect example - he acted like a bit of a muppet really but took the stick in good part and at the end everyone was happy. To steal from the palace online community...
the future's bright.. our chairman's orange.
He's better than Ron anyway.
the future's bright.. our chairman's orange.
He's better than Ron anyway.
tangerinedream
Density of Sound
The Charlton situation seems completely bizzare to me. Dowie has a proven record but though he didn't seem to have got to grips with the job, 12 games seems nothing to sack someone who has seemingly got boundless energy and lots of fresh ideas - to then replace him with an unknown with no management experience suggests either a total personality clash or something we don't know about happening.
On a different note, I kind of don't understand why people saying things like 'souness is the only manager available' - At some point managers have to step up from lower league and I can think of a host of Championship candidates who I'd have thought of, without even mentioning anyone below that level.
At some point, people like Davies, Cotterill, Simpson will have to get their chance (and deservedly so) and the likes of Burley and Jones will get back to where they once were. I don't get this 'premiership experience' malarky that gets trotted out - it's the same fricking game after all, albeit with a larger pool of talent internationally and more media scrutiny but there is no reason on earth why a championship manager shouldn't be a good premiership manager.
I do understand that perhaps Johns Duncan or Beck wouldn't be the greatest choice, but there are loads of intelligent, tactically astute managers out there if you look beyond the premiership, commited to decent football. If peopel keep this attitude up, i.e. you need to either be a European manager or a premier league veteran to get a job, then soon the managers there will have to start managing two clubs each.
+ Steve Maclaren might be free soon, when Simon Grayson takes over England in a part time capacity.
On a different note, I kind of don't understand why people saying things like 'souness is the only manager available' - At some point managers have to step up from lower league and I can think of a host of Championship candidates who I'd have thought of, without even mentioning anyone below that level.
At some point, people like Davies, Cotterill, Simpson will have to get their chance (and deservedly so) and the likes of Burley and Jones will get back to where they once were. I don't get this 'premiership experience' malarky that gets trotted out - it's the same fricking game after all, albeit with a larger pool of talent internationally and more media scrutiny but there is no reason on earth why a championship manager shouldn't be a good premiership manager.
I do understand that perhaps Johns Duncan or Beck wouldn't be the greatest choice, but there are loads of intelligent, tactically astute managers out there if you look beyond the premiership, commited to decent football. If peopel keep this attitude up, i.e. you need to either be a European manager or a premier league veteran to get a job, then soon the managers there will have to start managing two clubs each.
+ Steve Maclaren might be free soon, when Simon Grayson takes over England in a part time capacity.
The Millwall lot were gloating about all this in the pub earlier and I joined in a bit (they're older and consider things ... )
One version is that Charlton were going to (have to??) cover Dowie's legal costs in the courtcase with Jordan, but may have decided to spare themselves that cost by sacking him .... combined with the club's bottom position, the exact timing of the sack may have been significant.
Is this bollocks??
It's only speculation anyway, unless someoone here has heard something more concrete ...
)One version is that Charlton were going to (have to??) cover Dowie's legal costs in the courtcase with Jordan, but may have decided to spare themselves that cost by sacking him .... combined with the club's bottom position, the exact timing of the sack may have been significant.
Is this bollocks??
It's only speculation anyway, unless someoone here has heard something more concrete ...
Yes Charlton have volunteered the services of their legal team to represent Dowie.
It's becoming increasingly clear that he is going to lose the case, so I think they have spared themselves the blushes of having a disgraced liar in charge of their bottom of the table team. Obviously a REAL PR disaster.
It's becoming increasingly clear that he is going to lose the case, so I think they have spared themselves the blushes of having a disgraced liar in charge of their bottom of the table team. Obviously a REAL PR disaster.
stupid kid
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It took you 17 minutes to write that?RaverDrew said:I'd be very surprised if they hadn't of kept there options open, y'know just incase the tapping up of Dowie didn't work out.
Wtf are you on about ?
My post was made at 11 mins past so that's 4 mins to read the thread where I had left off, decide whether to reply to your post, double check your claim that Billy Davies was offered the job (of which I could find no evidence btw, he was certainly interviewed a few days before Dowie so I gave you the benefit of the doubt despite nothing to suggest it was offered to him, but hey lets not split hairs) and then finally make my post.
I knew Charlton supporters were a thick lot, but you are really taking the biscuit.
Living up to your username I see
stupid kid said:
My post was made at 11 mins past so that's 4 mins to read the thread where I had left off, decide whether to reply to your post, double check your claim that Billy Davies was offered the job (of which I could find no evidence btw, he was certainly interviewed a few days before Dowie so I gave you the benefit of the doubt despite nothing to suggest it was offered to him, but hey lets not split hairs) and then finally make my post.
I knew Charlton supporters were a thick lot, but you are really taking the biscuit.
Living up to your username I see
RaverDrew said:
May not be true any more, what's the latest on that?
tangerinedream
Density of Sound
ringo said:
What's up with Dowie then, what makes you think he's a bad manager??
CP have a very good case against dowie, I'm surprised Charlton took him on knowing that this scenario was the likily outcome. Charlton may face an FA investigation if Jordan wins in court. Peter varney is on record as saying that dowie was sacked due to an 'internal' audit. Though the probable truth is that varney and co, don't want to lose any more money than they have already invested into the club.
ringo
Macaroni cheese controller
tangerinedream said:
I don't think he's a particuarly bad manager, it's just the Palace connection. I'm no fan of the violence, but that rivalry runs deep amongst Brighton fans in a way I've noticed younger and even some older Palace fans don't quite get. I suppose so much of it was based on those classic 70's Boxing Day clashes and the thrown fiver episode that many Palace fans can no longer connect with something so long ago.
Can't say I'm impressed with the new guy. I'm sure there's nothing could help you bond with a team more than saying 'They played like rabbits caught in the headlights'!!!! That sort of comment will hardly impress the team - other managers at least try to accentuate the positives about their team.
Also, I think he's protesting too much about not having knifed Dowie in the back to get the job.
Alan Hansen makes good points here
Also, I think he's protesting too much about not having knifed Dowie in the back to get the job.
Alan Hansen makes good points here
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2006/11/20/sfnhan20.xml
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