Does your country require an armed force?

[sleaterkinney]

maybe the germans might have another go?

But then the yanks would just have to come in again to beat them for ya!

 

[guinnessdrinker]

But then the yanks would just have to come in again to beat them for ya!

but they have biological weapons in the form of smelly cheeses that would fall on the unprepared yanks who would run away at the thought! and new york would be nuked.

 

[Bob_the_lost]

but they have biological weapons in the form of smelly cheeses that would fall on the unprepared yanks who would run away at the thought! and new york would be nuked.

Sounds like a plan, let's go

 

[easy g]

once we have ridded the french from europe we can find someone else to hate for thier uselessness in warfare.

why is that a reason to hate a country?

 

[Bob_the_lost]

why is that a reason to hate a country?

None, just as hating the french for thier silly accents is no good reason.

 

[Dodicus]

We don't need Las Malvinas anyway. I mean, what have they ever done for us?

And what would you do with the loyal Falklanders? Just shoot them all?

 

[Dodicus]

nope the bennies are quite definate about that.

.

Apparently not so long ago some smart arse changed the sign to Stanley with 'you are now entering Royston Vasey.

 

[dylanredefined]

The auld alliance didnt work at waterloo why would it work now ?.There are some people who I am glad are walking the streets of iraq and not England .
Imho its a shame we cant send them to another planet yet .

 

[Dodicus]

The auld alliance didnt work at waterloo why would it work now ?.There are some people who I am glad are walking the streets of iraq and not England .
Imho its a shame we cant send them to another planet yet .

The same can be said for any group of UK citizens. Members of the Armed Forces are a reflection of society not an ailment that grew out of it. Some of the most decent people I have met have been military, also some of the worst. I would also send every drug dealer and child abuser to your other planet.

 

[mmmSkyscraper]

And what would you do with the loyal Falklanders? Just shoot them all?

Why would you shoot them? Will you shoot all the Northern Irelanders when we hand the province back to Ireland?

 

[Dodicus]

Why would you shoot them? Will you shoot all the Northern Irelanders when we hand the province back to Ireland?

So what would you do with them then. And I don think we can hand the province back to Ireland, its not ours to hand back for starters.

 

[mmmSkyscraper]

Don't do anything. Just ensure that they'll be ok under Argie rule and leave them to it.

 

[easy g]

that goes for the falklands as well...

 

[mmmSkyscraper]

That deserves a smilie, easyg old son. But I don't do them. You get the picture though.

 

[easy g]

None, just as hating the french for thier silly accents is no good reason.

but you implied you did hate them...so you hate them for no good reason?

you are a pleasant fella aren't you...

 

[easy g]

That deserves a smilie, easyg old son. But I don't do them. You get the picture though.

aye...cheers...

 

[Bob_the_lost]

but you implied you did hate them...so you hate them for no good reason?

you are a pleasant fella aren't you...

Did i? Tell you what, why don't you fuck off and get a sense of humour.

 

[easy g]

oh I've got one of them squire don't you worry....

I reckon you ought to trade yours in...Wheel Tappers and Shunters disappeared from our screens a long time ago

 

[Dr_Evil]

We spend an awful lot of money on defence considering our main enemy is proficient at taking down sky scrapers with nothing more than stanley knives.

It wasnt our main nemy before 9/11 and may well not be our main enemy in less than 10yrs time so no point in getting rid of them.

 

[Dr_Evil]

I'm from a town where the main employment is in the development of military aircraft. There they build the Eurofighter. Often criticism is levelled at it for being an overdue 1980s relic and that it was designed to fight the Russians in the Cold War, a threat that no longer exists.

I've had lengthy discussions with a number of people about this, and I've come to disagree with that assessment. If you look at the British military hardware alone, it was all developed a very long time ago. The Eurofighter is to eventually replace the Tornado, still in service today, which I believe was first flown in the 1960s. The same typically applies across the board.

The point of all this bizarre rambling is that you do not come by the military technology you need to successfully cope in a crisis in an instant. Since you can't predict the future, you have to maintain at least some readiness at all times, even decades in advance. You can't build a modern army just like that.


I would like to think that Western European countries face little threat today, and so any defensive measures will not be called upon. However the same cannot be said for other areas of the world. If we considered the issue purely on a local scale, and had little or no military to counter the little or no local danger, then we would have no capacity to stop crises elsewhere, such as the Balkans.

I am not for one moment arguing that we have successfully fulfilled that role - you need only look at Srebrenica and the abysmal lack of action in a number of African situations such as Sudan to see that - but that global military responses are necessary regardless of the domestic situation and it is, I believe, a Western duty to do so.

Such is the manner of defence procurement. Every single peice of millitary hardware is outdated by the time it comes into service. Thats why the defence industry is always working on the next generation of hardware.

Eurofighter is already superceeded by the JSF and the F-22 but it still will be one of the best plkanes available. Put that with the AH64-D (apache), the Challenger (the best tank in the world), the AS90 mobile Artillery, the merlin helicopter, and the MRLS system and we have one of the best armed services in the world. The only weak link is the SA-80(A2)

 

[Dr_Evil]

We don't need Las Malvinas anyway. I mean, what have they ever done for us?

Some of the most fertile fisheries in the world and untapped oil reserves?

Quite a lot mate

 

[Dr_Evil]

Because hitler wanted to destroy Britians Air Force, there were no plans for an invasion however.

ahh, right. Thanks for the history lesson.

Why did he want the RAF wiped out? Just to piss us off or could it be to gain air superiority over the south east of england prior to an amphibious and airborne landing?

 

[Dr_Evil]

if anyone wanted to invade england theyd have to go through the european union first

we should just have a EU defence force, then the likes of blair/bush dont have control imo

EU=cunts but too rich to become the 51st state

Hand over control to the greedy cunts in europe?

Thats a great idea. They cant run a faux parliment without massive corruption and in-efficiency, so i cant see them running an EU army very effectively.

 

[Dr_Evil]

nope the bennies are quite definate about that.

I think more of them would vote to have their eyes plucked out by penguins than become an argentinian dependency.

the US position over the falklands conflict was a difficult one seeing as they were constantly fustrated by the juntas vacillating over their decisions and changing their mind at the last minute.

The Argies even tried to buy the islanders. They offered them £100000 to take argentinian nationality and vote for the islands to be retaken as part of argentina.

Guess how many people said yes....

0

 

[Dodicus]

Such is the manner of defence procurement. Every single peice of millitary hardware is outdated by the time it comes into service. Thats why the defence industry is always working on the next generation of hardware.

Eurofighter is already superceeded by the JSF and the F-22 but it still will be one of the best plkanes available. Put that with the AH64-D (apache), the Challenger (the best tank in the world), the AS90 mobile Artillery, the merlin helicopter, and the MRLS system and we have one of the best armed services in the world. The only weak link is the SA-80(A2)

Agree there, and off course no weapons system is as is and it is continually evolving. The jets may be old but they get new hardware and the abilty to carry better and more accurate weapons. Gone are the days of the JP233....

 

[Dr_Evil]

Agree there, and off course no weapons system is as is and it is continually evolving. The jets may be old but they get new hardware and the abilty to carry better and more accurate weapons. Gone are the days of the JP233....

Pefect example is the B52!

It was brought out in the late 50s and was scheduled to be withdrawn from service in the 80's but was recyled to carry the cruise missiles and as such has had it's lifespan extended to the 2020's!

Thats a bloody old plane!

 

[newharper]

why is that a reason to hate a country?

Safety

 

[sleaterkinney]

ahh, right. Thanks for the history lesson.

Why did he want the RAF wiped out? Just to piss us off or could it be to gain air superiority over the south east of england prior to an amphibious and airborne landing?

I stand corrected, I thought this was Hitler's opinion of the british:

"(Hitler spoke) with great admiration of the British Empire, of the necessity for its existence, and of the civilisation that Britain had brought into the world." Blumentritt

 

[Bob_the_lost]

Didn't mean he wasn't going to invade as well.

 

[winger247]

You don't get to party with the other kid's if you ain't got the toys, and the more and bigger toys you've got, the more parties you get invited to.