Pickman's model
sunset spires and twilight woods
i think you'll find you're wrong.Sub_bass said:
have you never heard of william iii and idly wondered why james ii fled the country?
Does your country require an armed force?
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have you never heard of william iii and idly wondered why james ii fled the country?
Pickman's model
sunset spires and twilight woods
because the last successful invasion was 317 years ago, when james ii was overthrown and william iii installed. unless you count the temporary occupation of a couple of small islands in the second world war as a "successful invasion". i'm only counting ones which changed the government of the country.guinnessdrinker said:
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
That just shows that we have a sucsessful armed forcesPickman's model said:
Pickman's model
sunset spires and twilight woods
why?Bob_the_lost said:
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
Pickman's model said:
Because all the invasions since have been unsucsessful? Napoleon Bonaparte for example may well have invaded Britain at some point if we hadn't helped spain. WHile he did get his arse kicked by the russian weather i don't think that without additional enemies it would have crippled his empire permanently
Bob_the_lost said:Bollocks, you know it too
That the argentine army was inferior to that of the UK is not in doubt. But that they are more dangerous than footie fans isn't. Footie fans don't typically have 7.62 machineguns, airsuport and a large navy.
Yeah, but those Argies would have fled when they saw 300 fat, bare chested cockneys running towards them lobbing patio chairs and pint glasses.
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
Quite possibly, tell ya what, let's disband the military and then see how long it takes another falklands situation to occur? One of the major factors that led to the invasion were the military build down in the area.mmmSkyscraper said:
Pingu
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Bob_the_lost said:
we did help spain, a little affair known as the peninsular wars where a certain Arthur Wellelsley honed his skills gained in india.
IIRC Napoleon also planned to invade britain but was unable to do so due to his navey being not as good as the royal navy
to quote Admiral Jervis's , "I do not say, my Lords, that the French will not come. I say only they will not come by sea"
anyhow
as you were
We don't need Las Malvinas anyway. I mean, what have they ever done for us?
Sub_bass
Irrelevant Thread-Killer.
Pickman's model said:
...I stand corrected. As far as kingswapping goes, that sort of shit happened all the time amongst the european nobility -even our present royal family is german ffs.
Still not five invasions though, is it?
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...The only thing i have ever idly wondered about with regards to the nobility is whether or not exile is too lenient for them...
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Necessary evil IMV.
'Tread softly and carry a big stick'
'Tread softly and carry a big stick'
sleaterkinney
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Did Hitler have plans for an invasion then? I think not....Gavin Bl said:
I voted for They're a necessary evil, but for defence only, not for the resource grabbing it is used for nowadays. Actually with the exceptions of the few times it's been attacked, that's all it's been used for, and we aren't likely to be attacked anytime soon.
mentalchik
"I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit."
Pickman's model
sunset spires and twilight woods
1572 - french land at scarboroughSub_bass said:...I stand corrected. As far as kingswapping goes, that sort of shit happened all the time amongst the european nobility -even our present royal family is german ffs.
Still not five invasions though, is it?
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...The only thing i have ever idly wondered about with regards to the nobility is whether or not exile is too lenient for them...
1588 - spanish armada
1688 - glorious revolution
1715 - the old pretender
1798 - french land at ballina
1940 - channel islands
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
Because hitler wanted to destroy Britians Air Force, there were no plans for an invasion however.Hollis said:
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Hollis said:Lichenstein ain't got an army either...
And I can provide a link.
Yeah, but Lichtenstein probably couldn't muster a fucking brigade of soldiers, let alone a three-forces army!!
So the planned operation Lionheart is in fact a myth created by teachers, history books and TV documentary makers and Hitler wiping out the RAF had nothing to do with removing any possible threat to an invasion force trying to cross the channel?
mentalchik
"I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit."
See the link i posted.....
"Hitler wanted Sea Lion to be over by mid-September. His naval chiefs believed that any invasion could not start until mid-September! Raeder supplied a list of reasons why the invasion could not go ahead before mid-September1940 (clearance of shipping lanes of mines, getting invasion barges ready etc) and he won the support of the army. Hitler ordered that as long as Germany controlled the sky, Operation Sea Lion would go start on September 15th 1940. Therefore, the invasion depended entirely on whether Göering's Luftwaffe could defeat the RAF. The failure of the Germans to defeat the RAF had to lead to the cancellation of Operation Sea Lion which was announced on September 17th 1940."
Seems the Battle Of Britain changed these plans!
"Hitler wanted Sea Lion to be over by mid-September. His naval chiefs believed that any invasion could not start until mid-September! Raeder supplied a list of reasons why the invasion could not go ahead before mid-September1940 (clearance of shipping lanes of mines, getting invasion barges ready etc) and he won the support of the army. Hitler ordered that as long as Germany controlled the sky, Operation Sea Lion would go start on September 15th 1940. Therefore, the invasion depended entirely on whether Göering's Luftwaffe could defeat the RAF. The failure of the Germans to defeat the RAF had to lead to the cancellation of Operation Sea Lion which was announced on September 17th 1940."
Seems the Battle Of Britain changed these plans!
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
fubert said:
I thought they spent their time guarding the pope don't they?
I vaguely remember reading this in 'Sum of All Fears' that centuries ago the Swiss Army were fearsome hard mercenaries and there was some kind of convention to stop them being hired and they were moved to the Vatican to look after il papa...I'd assume they have some form of full time army tho, cos otherwise why build the knives?
Sub_bass
Irrelevant Thread-Killer.
Pickman's model said:
...Sorry, i thought we were talking about successful invasions here (i.e. ones that ended up with permanent changes of government -or the land being physically occupied by an enemy force for longer than four years).
...and come on, the channel islands is a bit fucking spurious considering they aren't even part of mainland britain and were nearer occupied france...
...Oh yeah, and the armada sank...
...ballina was in ireland the last time i looked...
...The 'glorious revolution' was more like a coup detat than a bona-fide invasion considering the fact that william was initially welcomed with open arms...
...Oh yeah, and the old pretender:
...any more unsuccessful invasions of the uk? Or is that it?
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