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Does your cleaner do this...?

Oh yeah, we have had that one loads.........


I have also has someone say to me "why, you're actually quite intelligent aren't you "

The implication is that because you are doing a low-paid service job you must be stupid and a thief. The idea that you might be doing it because it's easy and you have no desire to scrabble up the ladder to get more money never enters some peoples heads
 
The implication is that because you are doing a low-paid service job you must be stupid and a thief. The idea that you might be doing it because it's easy and you have no desire to scrabble up the ladder to get more money never enters some peoples heads


Or that you might be doing it because circumstances left you with no other choices at the time and now although it's not the best paid it's better than minimum wage and you have a household to support it aint that easy to find something else !
 
When I was young my mum was employed part time as a cleaner in an extremely posh residential home for extremely posh (weekly food deliveries from Fortnum & Mason level of posh) elderly folk. The job was OK as it goes, but the pay was appalling, especially considering the high fees paid by residents. She was also employed at the parish vicarage, which I think she preferred and it paid better.

I struggle to use a hoover and sweep/mop floors these days, but I feel deeply uncomfortable about the idea of employing someone, besides which this place is an absolute tip and I wouldn't want to inflict it on anyone else. My mum offers to clean for me every time she comes round, I always say no, I feel very embarrassed that I find it difficult to do for myself.
 
Well, no - because most people are capable of cleaning their own house to a satisfactory standard but not everyone is capable of typing a letter that's fit to be sent out.

As to pulling pints, try walking behind the bar in your local pub and trying to do it yourself, and see what the landlord has to say! Same with the restaurant analogy - of course I am quite capable of fetching and carrying my own food, but if everyone did that it would be quite chaotic and it#s the choice of the restaurant owner as to how he runs his business. Some of course are self service.

What on Earth has the second paragraph got to do with anything? You're saying that you wouldn't be able to pull a pint because you wouldn't be allowed to, not because you couldn't open a can of beer and pull it for yourself. Of course, there's more to working behind a bar than that, but there's more to cleaning than that too.

Are you really saying that cleaning houses is something that nobody should do for money?
 
Can you please advice me on how to avoid this in the future because it has been happening for 2yrs and short of sacking her I am at a loss :confused:

You really shouldn't be dealing with the cleaner's dismissal yourself. Instruct the butler to sack the cleaner and recruit a replacement.
 
You really shouldn't be dealing with the cleaner's dismissal yourself. Instruct the butler to sack the cleaner and recruit a replacement.

Indeed. In reality, you should not even be directly acknowledging the existence of the hired help.
 
What on Earth has the second paragraph got to do with anything? You're saying that you wouldn't be able to pull a pint because you wouldn't be allowed to, not because you couldn't open a can of beer and pull it for yourself. Of course, there's more to working behind a bar than that, but there's more to cleaning than that too.

Are you really saying that cleaning houses is something that nobody should do for money?

I suggest you re-read my post in the context of the post it was in reply to.
 
I'm not quite sure what Geri's point is re the pint pulling and letter typing. Neither are exactly that hard to do, either. :confused:
 
Sometimes, I like to don a quaint little outfit, call myself Conswayla, imagine immigration officials bursting in at any moment and run around the flat with a duster saying "so sorry Mr EastEnder, me try harder, promise!"
My dick got hard at this thought.:D
 
I'm not quite sure what Geri's point is re the pint pulling and letter typing. Neither are exactly that hard to do, either. :confused:

I was responding to someone who compared employing a cleaner to allowing yourself to be served in a pub or empoying someone to do your typing.

Pulling pints isn't hard, I agree. But my point is that you wouldn't be allowed into a pub to pull your own pints, so by necessity someone has to be employed to do them for you.

It isn't necessary for most people to have to employ someone to come and clean their house - there is nothing to stop them doing it themselves.

Typing isn't as easy as you might think - most people can make themselves understood on the internet or type very short letters at work, but firms employ typists because they are faster and quicker than most people (and they don't want higher paid staff doing work they could pay other people to do for less).
 
I'm not quite sure what Geri's point is re the pint pulling and letter typing. Neither are exactly that hard to do, either. :confused:

I was responding to someone who compared employing a cleaner to allowing yourself to be served in a pub or employing someone to do your typing.

Pulling pints isn't hard, I agree. But my point is that you wouldn't be allowed into a pub to pull your own pints, so by necessity someone has to be employed to do them for you.

It isn't necessary for most people to have to employ someone to come and clean their house - there is nothing to stop them doing it themselves.

Typing isn't as easy as you might think - most people can make themselves understood on the internet or type very short letters at work, but firms employ typists because they are faster and quicker than most people (and they don't want higher paid staff doing work they could pay other people to do for less).
 
I was responding to someone who compared employing a cleaner to allowing yourself to be served in a pub or empoying someone to do your typing.

Pulling pints isn't hard, I agree. But my point is that you wouldn't be allowed into a pub to pull your own pints, so by necessity someone has to be employed to do them for you.

It isn't necessary for most people to have to employ someone to come and clean their house - there is nothing to stop them doing it themselves.

Typing isn't as easy as you might think - most people can make themselves understood on the internet or type very short letters at work, but firms employ typists because they are faster and quicker than most people (and they don't want higher paid staff doing work they could pay other people to do for less).

But you don't have to have someone pull a pint in order to have a beer. You don't have to be in a restaurant to have food. Most people these days are able to type their own letters. It's not really relevant that you wouldn't be allowed behind a bar or into the restaurant kitchen - those aren't necessary for you to have beer and food.

So how, exactly, is employing a cleaner different to paying other people to do work for you? Sorry, I'm really not sure what you're saying.
 
So how, exactly, is employing a cleaner different to paying other people to do work for you? Sorry, I'm really not sure what you're saying.

Because I only pay people do things I can't do for myself.

I can't really make it any clearer than that.
 
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