does education have any indictation of intelligence?

[equationgirl]

sorry, u talk,ing to me? if you copy it i will

equationgirl - for what it is worth i think u are highly intelligent actually, i mean. everyone does, and anyone who wouldnt on here is stupid.... and i like your ideas that i have read over threads on urban a lot tbh.... just shoot me a few....if you have any on this subject, because i am moving more towards the pursuit of the 'idea'.....what do you reckon?

No, I was talking to Sam/phallocrat. So nevermind about that.

Thank you for the compliment about my intelligence, Cheesy, most kind of you To be honest, in my experience I find many people intimidated by intelligence so if anything I try and hide it sometimes. Not to the extent of appearing stupid, but not pushing my ideas forward and blathering on about how clever I am.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'pursuit of the idea'. Could you expand and clarify a little bit please?

I very much enjoyed the discussion I had with alderbaran about his magic carpet.

 

[scifisam]

Oh get over yourself...
I actually think cheesy has a decent topic for debate here just hasnt presented a coherent argument thanks to poor writing rather than because she has nothing to say- hence me asking who exactly she writes for.
So Im glad you understand it, good for you. Its a shame the topic hasnt yet had the airing it deserves- cheesy clearly has something to say.

As an aside how do you, personally view your claim of 'pure' intelligence. What is it exactly?

I agree with most of this post, but you admit that CP 'just hasn't presented a coherent argument thanks to poor writing.' And - since I'm presuming CP is what she says she is - that is bloody worrying. I know an awful lot of people who write for a living who, even consideration that, after work, they might want to let their guards down, demonstrate the ability to write in full sentences with ordinary punctuation even when they're not working.

Especially if they are responding to their own threads about other people's intelligence.

It would be helpful if they could demonstrate their own intelligence in such a thread.

You'd never trust an accountant who couldn't add up 2+2; why should you trust a journalist who doesn't know where an apostrophe should go?

It's not as if there are no other threads on the same topic.

 

[chainsaw cat]

No, I was talking to Sam/phallocrat. So nevermind about that.

Thank you for the compliment about my intelligence, Cheesy, most kind of you To be honest, in my experience I find many people intimidated by intelligence so if anything I try and hide it sometimes. Not to the extent of appearing stupid, but not pushing my ideas forward and blathering on about how clever I am.I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'pursuit of the idea'. Could you expand and clarify a little bit please?

I very much enjoyed the discussion I had with alderbaran about his magic carpet.

... you could have the same effect by wearing a push up bra and a low cut top. With this attire, you could bang on about the most esoteric scientific theory and no one would ever know....

 

[scifisam]

... you could have the same effect by wearing a push up bra and a low cut top. With this attire, you could bang on about the most esoteric scientific theory and no one would ever know....

If only Einstein had known this, his theories would have been accepted long before the Americans got the power over them!

 

[nosos]

equationgirl - for what it is worth i think u are highly intelligent actually, i mean. everyone does, and anyone who wouldnt on here is stupid.... and i like your ideas that i have read over threads on urban a lot tbh.... just shoot me a few....if you have any on this subject, because i am moving more towards the pursuit of the 'idea'.....what do you reckon?

The way you write sentences is just about the most irritating thing I've ever seen.

 

[LilMissHissyFit]

I agree with most of this post, but you admit that CP 'just hasn't presented a coherent argument thanks to poor writing.' And - since I'm presuming CP is what she says she is - that is bloody worrying. I know an awful lot of people who write for a living who, even consideration that, after work, they might want to let their guards down, demonstrate the ability to write in full sentences with ordinary punctuation even when they're not working.

Especially if they are responding to their own threads about other people's intelligence.

It would be helpful if they could demonstrate their own intelligence in such a thread.

You'd never trust an accountant who couldn't add up 2+2; why should you trust a journalist who doesn't know where an apostrophe should go?

It's not as if there are no other threads on the same topic.

I also agree with this... ( hence the sun comment-IIRC the sun is aimed at people with a tested reading age of 8- pretty low overall)

 

[Aldebaran]

I very much enjoyed the discussion I had with alderbaran about his magic carpet.

I'm finally loved!! or is it my Flying Carpet that is loved... mmm...this incertitude is killing me...

salaam.

 

[Aldebaran]

does education have any indication of intelligence?

You ask the wrong question.
Intellect is needed to assess the value of any education.

salaam.

 

[ViolentPanda]

The way you write sentences is just about the most irritating thing I've ever seen.

I believe it's of the style known as "stream of consciousness", maan.

 

[equationgirl]

Cheesy, it's true, your style of posting is very hard to follow. Could you please try to formulate your posts a little more clearly? I think you'd be taken more seriously if you did.

Alderbaran, I like the way your imagination works. Imagination is a much-overlooked fact of intelligence, in my opinion, and should be nurtured and encouraged more. Especially in the magic carpet arena. If there were more magic carpets perhaps the world would be a better place.

 

[Aldebaran]

Alderbaran, I like the way your imagination works.

me too It has a life of its own, really. I'm completely innocent.

Imagination is a much-overlooked fact of intelligence, in my opinion, and should be nurtured and encouraged more.

Without the sparks of imagination the world would be a static and hence very dull and liveless place.

Especially in the magic carpet arena. If there were more magic carpets perhaps the world would be a better place.

Defintely. For a start it would highly contribute to solving the CO2 problem would I find a partner for her, celebrate their marriage and watch on as the kids grow up to concur the skies. Hint: If you have shares in aviation, this is the sell-off moment. Carpets grow and mature fast when cared for with love.

salaam.

 

[equationgirl]

Aldebaran, how do I find and acquire such a carpet?

 

[Aldebaran]

You go to the first souk nearby and try to seduce one. (That is the first step. Then you must make it love you.)

salaam.

 

[LilMissHissyFit]

I read that as "and then I must make love to you"

 

[equationgirl]

You have a dutty mind

Do not sully the purity of the magic carpets.

 

[LilMissHissyFit]

It was late

 

[weltweit]

"Does education have any indication of intelligence?"

No, not imho, education just indicates education, no more no less, an individual can be very bright but not have a great deal of education and conversely an individual can have had a lot of education but still be quite dim.

 

[gracious]

most really intelligent people i know love to learn, and are good at learning, so yes i would say that if you took a room full of 50 people with phds and another room with 50 people that left school at 16, you would find more "intelligent" people in the phd room than in the school leavers room, by any definition of intelligence.

not to say that you wouldnt find intelligent people in both rooms, and not to say that the innate talent which we associate with intelligence grows in response to education, just really that in my humble, intelligent people are fascinated to understand the world and will therefore go in for either education or drugs.

 

[xenon]

^
That I would suggest, is because intelegent peple are more curious and keen to learn about things. Hence many intelegent people will obviously go down the route of accademic study. Others will of course learn in their own informal way, which is still gaining education.

Also there is that kind of academicly inclined person, who seems to be able to soak up information but displays a startleing lack of applied intelegence. Maybe that's a big cliche though. hmm.

 

[equationgirl]

If you've any experience of working in academia, you would realise that that statement is correct, xenon_2.

 

[Cheesypoof]

hey there, will try and make the sentences with less whittering, more coherence. i find it hard to filter my thoughts i suppose, and focus too much on symbols and emblems than narratives in my spare time....workwise tis v.different, and my style is very colourful and ideas focussed, not accomplished and sophisticated. I dont have great control of writing per se, but I can find news and spot the angles and paint imaginative pictures with them - thats why i get away with it.

 

[LilMissHissyFit]

^
That I would suggest, is because intelegent peple are more curious and keen to learn about things. Hence many intelegent people will obviously go down the route of accademic study. Others will of course learn in their own informal way, which is still gaining education.

Also there is that kind of academically inclined person, who seems to be able to soak up information but displays a startling lack of applied intelligence. Maybe that's a big cliche though. hmm.

That has always been my take on things- the most 'schooled' people Ive encountered have often been the least capable in practical ways or independent reasoning/thoughts and even common sense.

 

[equationgirl]

hey there, will try and make the sentences with less whittering, more coherence. i find it hard to filter my thoughts i suppose, and focus too much on symbols and emblems than narratives in my spare time....workwise tis v.different, and my style is very colourful and ideas focussed, not accomplished and sophisticated. I dont have great control of writing per se, but I can find news and spot the angles and paint imaginative pictures with them - thats why i get away with it.

Cool, cheers for making the effort, cheesypoof, appreciated

 

[Cheesypoof]

Cool, cheers for making the effort, cheesypoof, appreciated

you're welcome! I try pretty hard and i am told i am pretty good at headlines too - i headlined a piece 'Good morning Vietnam!' the other day in an article about Polish politics, because the person i interviewed kept talking about his business ventures moving to Vietnam, and the possibilities for the future there - thats a bit bonkers but typical of the kind of daft 'vision' i spin on my stories.

there are different types of journalists i think, and i am not the 'classical writer' type, but more the 'daft madcap with the odd imaginative story' type.

i did another story the other week which i headlined 'The drones they throng' - a Syd Barrett quote from his song 'Octopus' - and I painted the picture of the market like drones flying to the queen. It was a bit silly but my subs loved it - my ideas dont always work but thats the kind of way i see things, and attempt to present them with my work....again, as i say, i am extremely aware of my limitations but my imagination is pretty okay some of the time, which is why i can get away with it.

hope this makes some sense - i know i rarely do!

 

[equationgirl]

No, that makes sense cheesy.

 

[xenon]

If you've any experience of working in academia, you would realise that that statement is correct, xenon_2.

Heh.
My uni experience was through stutdying fine art and being surrounded by peple with that kind of artistic intelegence, (seriously wanting for a better term). It wasn't a full on academic course, in that you didn't have to reproduce written essays very often. Rather just try and cohearantly justify what you've created.

hard to judge intelegence in that field. The stupid individuals were easier to spot though.

 

[Cheesypoof]

No, that makes sense cheesy.

thanks! i think you bring out a good side of me

you asked me about what i meant by the 'pursuit of ideas' thing i mentioned earlier - good question. I think I am in this eternal pursuit of trying to filter my ideas and find something new, which i can present coherently. Its a good mission though, to search for answers all the time. I am facinated by people who are very good at maths actually....i am pretty sure that if a person is mathematical they can express themselves very logically with words to be honest. Thats a very underrated precept IMO.

 

[equationgirl]

Well, I do try. But working in the land that logic avoids is very taxing on the sanity sometimes.

I find that being good at maths makes me less tolerant to the grey areas of the world, because i'm so used to everything being either black or white (ie right or wrong, mathematically).

Long may your good side stay out, cheesy.

 

[118118]

intelligence is the abiliity to memorize, spot relations and solve problems with speed and originality. apparently.

best seen as "what intelligence tests test".

 

[LilMissHissyFit]

which, as most of us will admit.. doesnt cover what intelligence(s) is/are