Does anyone (or has anyone) ever voted UKIP or Veritas?

[goneforlunch]

Once again ...

I shall be pleased to answer your comments, but not unless you answer my question, clearly and unequivocally, about UKIP, the EU and xenophobia:

"The EU thinks xenophobes should be criminalised with amongst other things up to 2 years in prison. Should that apply to UKIP officials ... and members? We don't agree on policy but do you believe in the freedom of speech?

Should it? Do you?"

Last chance, Nino.

 

[nino_savatte]

Once again ...

I shall be pleased to answer your comments, but not unless you answer my question, clearly and unequivocally, about UKIP, the EU and xenophobia:

"The EU thinks xenophobes should be criminalised with amongst other things up to 2 years in prison. Should that apply to UKIP officials ... and members? We don't agree on policy but do you believe in the freedom of speech?

Should it? Do you?"

Last chance, Nino.

You continue to insist that I answer your questions and I believe that I have. I have made myself perfectly clear about how I see your party and their gross hypocrisy of sitting in the Euro Parliament when they are committed to its dissolution(a point well avoided by you).

As for your comment about the EU "criminalising xenophobes", how about posting up your source. Because from where I'm standing that remark has no basis in fact or reality...or perhaps you feel that it is acceptable to abuse people on the basis of their ethnicity, nationality or gender?

Your fingers are still in your ears btw.

 

[sleaterkinney]

As David Cameron put it, ukip members are "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly".

Adrian Lithgow, the UK Independence Party's communication boss resigned, was fined £60 and ordered to pay £400 compensation after drunkenly harassing a Yugoslavian rail worker at 3am in Victoria station. He called the Eastern European "a piece of shit", asked, "Have you got a work permit?" and then launched a hot pasty at nearby staff.


Ashok Viswanathan, of Operation Black Vote, said in 1999: "We know that a number of candidates who have stood for UKIP have British National Party links - there's no question there are links. Like this bloke: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1544527/Revealed-Ukip-official-gave-money-to-the-BNP.html

 

[nino_savatte]

As David Cameron put it, ukip members are "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly".

Adrian Lithgow, the UK Independence Party's communication boss resigned, was fined £60 and ordered to pay £400 compensation after drunkenly harassing a Yugoslavian rail worker at 3am in Victoria station. He called the Eastern European "a piece of shit", asked, "Have you got a work permit?" and then launched a hot pasty at nearby staff.


Ashok Viswanathan, of Operation Black Vote, said in 1999: "We know that a number of candidates who have stood for UKIP have British National Party links - there's no question there are links. Like this bloke: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1544527/Revealed-Ukip-official-gave-money-to-the-BNP.html

This is something that goneforlunch doesn't want to see. An example of cognitive dissonance perhaps?

 

[CyberRose]

CyberRose

I shall be very pleased to answer all the points and questions raised in your last post just as soon as you have answered some of my very obviously put questions from this thread:

If you want to ask questions about the Labour Party I suggest you start a thread on it. This thread is about UKIP so don't try and deflect attention away from that because you're having difficulty answering questions about it. Now get back to my last posts and address the points within it otherwise you'll just look like a liar...

 

[goneforlunch]

As David Cameron put it, ukip members are "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly".

Cameron says a lot of things which are crap, as is this. (He lashed out in this case after UKIP used the Freedom of Information Act to asked for details of Tory loans to be made available.) UKIP members love Cameron just as much as he loves us.

Adrian Lithgow, the UK Independence Party's communication boss resigned, was fined £60 and ordered to pay £400 compensation after drunkenly harassing a Yugoslavian rail worker at 3am in Victoria station. He called the Eastern European "a piece of shit", asked, "Have you got a work permit?" and then launched a hot pasty at nearby staff.

Lithgow was an employee of UKIP, he's now an ex-employee. No excuses ... his behaviour was sickening.

Ashok Viswanathan, of Operation Black Vote, said in 1999: "We know that a number of candidates who have stood for UKIP have British National Party links - there's no question there are links. Like this bloke:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1544527/Revealed-Ukip-official-gave-money-to-the-BNP.html

A handful of BNP infiltrators were ejected from the party sometime ago. The BNP's stated aim is now to eliminate the party after its overtures to work with UKIP were emphatically rejected. The two parties are very different, and they were fools to ever imagine they would be well-received. And Operation Black Vote? Its thinking sound at best mildly racist to me.

A former UKIP NEC member gave a BNP associate group a hundred quid donation over 6 years ago, and you want to condemn the party for it? OK, your call. UKIP has no racist policies, and racists are not welcome in the party. It is the only party in British politics that has in the main policies I can support, and it's good enough for me. Each to his or her own.

And "the House of Commons, held up as a beacon of democracy, has a 'dirty little secret', according to black MPs - its racism."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/13/race.houseofcommons

I've said before - racists exist in every party, and UKIP is no more affected by them than any other party (BNP apart of course).

 

[nino_savatte]

I've said before - racists exist in every party, and UKIP is no more affected by them than any other party (BNP apart of course).

Only, in the case of UKIP, it's couched in the language of anti-immigration.