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do you still actually buy music??????

pk said:
Your spelling fucks up when you're pissed and angry, it's very sweet. :D

I never said I'd never use mp3, I've used it far more than you I'm sure, I said I didn't think it was better than vinyl.

Seems you never mastered vinyl, or the basics of studio wiring, and you think having everything on computer means you don't have to learn the basics - good luck with that.

And for the record I am nowhere near 40, sorry to disappoint you.

Pray tell, what nightclubs are open amid the posh farmland up where you live - on a Wednesday night?

:D

The back room of an old man's pub doesn't count as "playing out" you know...

i was in town on wednesday, i spent fucking years learning vinyl, i can do that and it's still fun, but it's a bit annoying not having every sound you can get ahold of at your fingertips

but good luck with it...
 
pk said:
Yeah, it's real cozy. Like a hospital radio station, for example.
A small hospital. Maybe like a rehab unit or something.
For Bristle KRS to enjoy on his own.

I'm surprised you can manage to keep headphones on you're so pissed most nights.

different people playing music to each other cos they love it. absolutely fucking excellent, if you are bored of your music, listen to someone elses, that's why the internet is good
 
Ninjaboy said:
i was in town on wednesday, i spent fucking years learning vinyl, i can do that and it's still fun, but it's a bit annoying not having every sound you can get ahold of at your fingertips

but good luck with it...

I can have any sound I want blending into a vinyl set - but if the sampler crashes it's not the end of the world, I still have the turntables running and no shitty soundcard crashing the entire mix.

Are you getting the idea yet?

More is less.
 
pk said:
I can have any sound I want blending into a vinyl set - but if the sampler crashes it's not the end of the world, I still have the turntables running and no shitty soundcard crashing the entire mix.

Are you getting the idea yet?

More is less.

strange how little that happens
 
Ninjaboy said:
it is, thats why more people are using mp3

As a substitute for a walkman, yes.

As a main club system, no.

It's a gimmick, playing off laptops, especially in the DIY scene.

Vinyl is a safer bet... for now.

Less liable to break or get ruined when some pissed up Geordie twat spills a drink over the system.

:D
 
Nothing - I'm working.

Had a glass of Sangre de Toro earlier with a meal.

Oh and a cheeky little shot of Kaluha in my after dinner coffee.
 
pk said:
Strange how little you know.
;)

that doesnt work

i meant as in you claim that using mp3 to dj with is dodgy cos computers crash and i said it's strange how little it happens as in that i've seen lots of people play a set on their laptop and the puter hasn't crashed.
 
Ninjaboy said:
that doesnt work

i meant as in you claim that using mp3 to dj with is dodgy cos computers crash and i said it's strange how little it happens as in that i've seen lots of people play a set on their laptop and the puter hasn't crashed.

Oh I see. I thought you meant using mp3 as a sample station, for those effects and stuff.

I'm used to dark sweaty venues, with all kinds of squat juice dripping off the ceiling.

I'm not about to subject £2500 of pristine Apple laptop to that kind of punishment any time soon.

The vinyl, just give it a wipe with your sleeve when you're done, good as new.
 
Ninjaboy said:
romanian wine?

Spanish, from Catalunya.

If it was Romanian it would have to be the Murfatlar... alas, I'm all out of that one.
 
So the thread descends into a bunfight AND a row about mp3s, neither of which really relate to the OP.

Yeh, i still buy music - not as much as i download but then I download a lot.

Ninja - yeh, the 'business model' is changing, but nonetheless most of the music you like wouldn't have got made unless someone was getting paid and that isn't changing in a hurry. Why shouldn't people get paid for it?
 
Id buy it if I could afford it - when/if I ever get a decent wage again I will go back to blowing money on tunes for sure.

CD's are a rip of in Britain - thats for sure. 12" aint cheap either, but Id rather give my money to little independent producers anyhow - not that they'll see much of it.
 
pk said:
mp3 sounds shit when heavily amplified,
.
I know a pretty big DnB dj and he plays some mp3s, some vinyl - you can tell when its an mp3 though cos it sounds shit in comparison.
 
These days, I only buy CD's from bands I see live. If they're selling them at the gig, or I'm on their myspace later and like their tunes.
 
yes i still pay for music, generally. whether it be on vinyl, cd or download. if i can get a tune easily for 79p i'm not gonna try and spend ages looking for a copy that i can download for free. seems a bit tight to me. and i don't get this romantic notion that some people seem to have that "music should be free" - why should it? why should people who spend a lot of time and effort into producing something for others to enjoy not be able to try and make a living from it?

generally the only time i don't pay for music is from mixes that i download, but that can often lead to me buying particular tunes or stuff by a particular artist that i've heard on a mix. and if someone burns me a CD of stuff by someone that i've not heard before, if i like it i'll buy more.
 
milesy said:
why should people who spend a lot of time and effort into producing something for others to enjoy not be able to try and make a living from it?

also, if people can't make money from it, it'll be those who can afford to make it who can continue, not those who are best.

Ninj - you're talking from a fairly arrogant and narrow viewpoint as someone who pretty much just likes electronically generated music. Whilst these people still deserve to make a living out of it if they're any cop, different rules apply to a folk band, a rock band, a reggae band, an orchestra or a jazz outfit.

Cue your inevitable tiresome "yeh, but all that sucks and Kid Hideous pwns them all" childish response.
 
I download out of sheer necessity - in China with no way to pay online for stuff since I got rid of my credit card.

Will definitely buy again when I return to Britain. Downloading actually takes the fun out of music to some extent. When I buy a new CD, all my attention goes on that one CD. When I download 10 albums, it's just not the same.
 
I bought a few things in the legal way via iTunes a few months ago.

Turns out the files are restricted, and I only want mp3 files not protected AAC files that I can't convert without resampling.

So the legal way means less flexible music, not exactly a plus point.

And I've spent thousands on music so I'll feel no guilt getting it for free when I can.
 
pk said:
Depends on your approach - no disrespect but when you were gigging the technology available now to every bedroom musician for a few quid was totally out of reach to you - you had to pay engineers, studio time, tape operators, and all the rest of the receipts the record company presented you as deductable.

Things are way different now.
Recording costs are down (FYI, I was using high end drum sequencers years ago), but the costs of being on tour haven't changed much if you're a 'proper' live band.

You still need to transport around big drum kits, amps and equipment, you still have to pay a sound engineer/roadies, you still have to buy strings and sticks and you still have to find accommodation and pay for your petrol costs, food and al the other stuff that comes up when you're away from home.

The one thing that certainly hasn't gone up over the years is what bands are paid 'on the circuit' and the notion that bands are somehow going to be able to survive solely on tour earnings is way off the beam.
 
pk said:
I bought a few things in the legal way via iTunes a few months ago.

Turns out the files are restricted, and I only want mp3 files not protected AAC files that I can't convert without resampling.

So the legal way means less flexible music, not exactly a plus point
And then there's the prospect of people losing all their downloads when their hard drive melts down (as is inevitably will). I wonder what percentage of people properly back up their digital music?
 
I buy vinyl very occasionally these days, ditto CDs. I have yet to pay for a download (and anyway all of my MP3s are robbed of mates' hard drives).

Nice little bitchfest btw :D
 
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