do you still actually buy music??????

[editor]

i make music and i don't expect to support my family off it. music is something you do for love, if you get rich off it is cool, but the idea that i should support struggling artists by buying cds is utter fucking shite

No, you buy it because you like it. And if you buy it there's an increased chance that they'll be able to make another great record.

In your free download world, only rich dabblers will be able to make records.

No thanks.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

i make music and i don't expect to support my family off it. music is something you do for love, if you get rich off it is cool, but the idea that i should support struggling artists by buying cds is utter fucking shite

I love a good loaf of bread, and a good baker probably bakes it with pride, but I don't expect him to give it to me for free.

 

[pk]

That's never going to work then. Most bands make a loss on their tours, even more so if they don't live anywhere near a big city. I've done hundreds of gigs and very rarely made a bean - and certainly never enough to pay for the gear/rehearsal/recording time etc.

Depends on your approach - no disrespect but when you were gigging the technology available now to every bedroom musician for a few quid was totally out of reach to you - you had to pay engineers, studio time, tape operators, and all the rest of the receipts the record company presented you as deductable.

Things are way different now.

I would wager I have a far better equipped studio in terms of flexibility and creative space for £10,000 in my house today than the £300,000 facilities you were paying for by the hour back then.

 

[kakuma]

Don't forget, you were still in nappies when I was sampling the shit you're just discovering now, so show a little respect.

you definetely earned the biggest fucking cunt of the year award for that quote

you are such a fucking arrogant cunt when you are pissed, you go on like you invented the fucking amen or something, the fact that you are older than me and you played lots of parties doesn't really cut it, it's about your music, and the only stuff i've heard by you is just derivative drumnbass and derivative techno so don't talk down to me on account of your receeding hairline

 

[kakuma]

No, you buy it because you like it. And if you buy it there's an increased chance that they'll be able to make another great record.

In your free download world, only rich dabblers will be able to make records.

No thanks.

that's shite. i made an album for 300 pounds and got to keep the laptop afterwards.

 

[kakuma]

I love a good loaf of bread, and a good baker probably bakes it with pride, but I don't expect him to give it to me for free.

it must be well into 90% of people who make music who do it for free

 

[pk]

you definetely earned the biggest fucking cunt of the year award for that quote

you are such a fucking arrogant cunt when you are pissed, you go on like you invented the fucking amen or something, the fact that you are older than me and you played lots of parties doesn't really cut it, it's about your music, and the only stuff i've heard by you is just derivative drumnbass and derivative techno so don't talk down to me on account of your receeding hairline

I'll talk down to you because of your inability to talk anything but shit at this time of night.



Come back when you know what you're talking about - and when you've told me how your magic invisible mp3 players will work off a turntable without actually having, erm, y'know... mp3 players hooked into the mixer, and the turntables hooked into the USB, and the kneebone connected to the thighbone... etc.

It's all very well for a bedroom setup, but unless you've got your own rig no fucker is going to look at you twice with your Argos bag brimming with cables.

The fact I've played loads of parties is testament to the fact that when you turn up pissed off your head and talking shit about some software in the middle of a set no fucker is going to let you pull plugs in and out of the mixing desk whilst someone else is playing, even if you did know what you were doing.

 

[pk]

that's shite. i made an album for 300 pounds and got to keep the laptop afterwards.

How much did you SELL this "album" for though, eh?



I've heard your stuff.

I'm polite enough to say nothing rude about it so far.

 

[kakuma]

i look at it like football players, millions of people have a kickaround on sunday, but if you are the best player on the team you don't ask all your friends for a quid to play, you are just playing football cos you love playing football

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

it must be well into 90% of people who make music who do it for free

Where you getting your statistics?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

you are such a fucking arrogant cunt when you are pissed,

You're kind of a twat when you're drunk, too.

 

[pk]

i look at it like football players, millions of people have a kickaround on sunday, but if you are the best player on the team you don't ask all your friends for a quid to play, you are just playing football cos you love playing football

(((ninjaboy)))

Life in your world must be so simple.

Bless

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Plus, electronica can maybe get made in your bedroom, but it's not the only kind of music.

Some musicians still spend years learning to play instruments well, and write songs well, time that you spent going to school and learning a trade.

 

[rekil]

i look at it like football players, millions of people have a kickaround on sunday, but if you are the best player on the team you don't ask all your friends for a quid to play, you are just playing football cos you love playing football

We had to pay subs at my club, to cover petrol costs, ground maintenance, food etc.

 

[kakuma]

I'll talk down to you because of your inability to talk anything but shit at this time of night.



Come back when you know what you're talking about - and when you've told me how your magic invisible mp3 players will work off a turntable without actually having, erm, y'know... mp3 players hooked into the mixer, and the turntables hooked into the USB, and the kneebone connected to the thighbone... etc.

It's all very well for a bedroom setup, but unless you've got your own rig no fucker is going to look at you twice with your Argos bag brimming with cables.

The fact I've played loads of parties is testament to the fact that when you turn up pissed off your head and talking shit about some software in the middle of a set no fucker is going to let you pull plugs in and out of the mixing desk whilst someone else is playing, even if you did know what you were doing.

daft cunt

so now you are saying that vinyl is better than mp3 cos most clubs don't have mp3s enabled for the dj yet

and even without that you can still just hook up your laptop and use traktor

i bet you said the same thing about DJs using CD 3 years ago

 

[kakuma]

You're kind of a twat when you're drunk, too.

i know

specially on the internet

 

[pk]

I'm a classically trained musician with fifteen years of full time professional music production behind me, the day I take advice from ninja "look it's an invisible mp3 player!" boy is the day I hang up my headphones.



If he'd actually recorded a tune that didn't sound like it was done on a Sega Megadrive I might listen to what he had to say...

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

i know

specially on the internet

You're probably better in real life, where you'd run the risk of being beaten up if you said half this shit.

 

[kakuma]

I'm a classically trained musician with fifteen years of full time professional music production behind me, the day I take advice from ninja "look it's an invisible mp3 player!" boy is the day I hang up my headphones.



If he'd actually recorded a tune that didn't sound like it was done on a Sega Megadrive I might listen to what he had to say...

it kind of is time to hang em up as it goes

if you're going to insult my music all yours sounds like some dude with lots of stuff and no ideas making 3rd rate music to me

 

[rekil]

You're probably better in real life, where you'd run the risk of being beaten up if you said half this shit.

All musicians talk shite as a matter of course. It's one of the incontrovertible universal truths.

 

[pk]

daft cunt

so now you are saying that vinyl is better than mp3 cos most clubs don't have mp3s enabled for the dj yet

and even without that you can still just hook up your laptop and use traktor

i bet you said the same thing about DJs using CD 3 years ago

Daft cunt - when was the last time you played in a club?

You've NEVER played in a club have you, ever?

Admit it, you're pissed again, talking shit as usual.

And no, sweetheart, most clubs do NOT have a Final Scratch suite set up for you as you walk in. Sorry to burst your bubble.

And I have used Traktor, sure, you can just set up and go.

But when the computer crashes or your MP3's sound shit, what then?

Plus of course people actually like watching the vinyl stuff going on, the physical act of pulling a record from a sleeve is a lot more interesting than some tone-deaf nerd clicking a mouse over and over again.

I have, in my opinion, one of the best laptops money can buy for this stuff - and I wouldn't trust it to run Traktor in a sweaty overheated nightclub without the odd glitch.

Don't forget the power supply issues - if the power is cut for a split second in some dodgy venue you'd probably have to reboot the computer... with vinyl you just push, and GO!

Come back when you've been laughed out of a few clubs and admit to me you were living in some kind of dreamworld where everything worked just like it did in your bedroom.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

All musicians talk shite as a matter of course. It's one of the incontrovertible universal truths.

Are you saying that ninjab is a musician?

 

[kakuma]

You're probably better in real life, where you'd run the risk of being beaten up if you said half this shit.

let's face it, you're a bunch of internet geeks, if your life was ok you wouldn't be going on u75

you can say what you like,cos the worst possible thing that counld happen is that you would be excluded from the 'community' and if you wanted to wind a bunch of geeks up you would have to reregister

 

[rekil]

Are you saying that ninjab is a musician?

Yes he is. I don't like much electronic music so I can't comment on his stuff but fair play to him I say. I respect anyone who makes music. Well most people.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

let's face it, you're a bunch of internet geeks, if your life was ok you wouldn't be going on u75

you can say what you like,cos the worst possible thing that counld happen is that you would be excluded from the 'community' and if you wanted to wind a bunch of geeks up you would have to reregister

What do you mean, 'you'?

Better make that 'we'.

I may be an internet geek, but at least I get laid regularly.

Is there a geek hierarchy?

 

[pk]

let's face it, you're a bunch of internet geeks, if your life was ok you wouldn't be going on u75

you can say what you like,cos the worst possible thing that counld happen is that you would be excluded from the 'community' and if you wanted to wind a bunch of geeks up you would have to reregister

No mate.

The worst possible thing would be to invest time and effort into a website that only two people use with any regularity.



I reckon you should leave it tonight, you're clearly tired and emotional and I don't really hate your music, you're learning and you have passion for it which is more than most.

But what must be frustrating for you is knowing that I am absolutely right.

 

[kakuma]

Daft cunt - when was the last time you played in a club?

You've NEVER played in a club have you, ever?

Admit it, you're pissed again, talking shit as usual.

And no, sweetheart, most clubs do NOT have a Final Scratch suite set up for you as you walk in. Sorry to burst your bubble.

And I have used Traktor, sure, you can just set up and go.

But when the computer crashes or your MP3's sound shit, what then?

Plus of course people actually like watching the vinyl stuff going on, the physical act of pulling a record from a sleeve is a lot more interesting than some tone-deaf nerd clicking a mouse over and over again.

I have, in my opinion, one of the best laptops money can buy for this stuff - and I wouldn't trust it to run Traktor in a sweaty overheated nightclub without the odd glitch.

Don't forget the power supply issues - if the power is cut for a split second in some dodgy venue you'd probably have to reboot the computer... with vinyl you just push, and GO!

Come back when you've been laughed out of a few clubs and admit to me you were living in some kind of dreamworld where everything worked just like it did in your bedroom.

last time i played out was wednesday

tbh i can't be arsed to play with you, it's not exCTLY interesting is it? yor opinion is that you would never use mp3, but it doesn't really matter since you are about 40.

 

[kakuma]

No mate.

The worst possible thing would be to invest time and effort into a website that only two people use with any regularity.



I reckon you should leave it tonight, you're clearly tired and emotional and I don't really hate your music, you're learning and you have passion for it which is more than most.

But what must be frustrating for you is knowing that I am absolutely right.

do you mean only 2 people use my website?
we have a fucking wicked radio station with about 50 shows on it, and it's a nice little community. it's not as busy as here, but on the other hand that means we don't have to deal with psycho behaviour....

i'm not that pissed, i just think your talking bollocks. it's not that difficult to wire a club up so you can play mp3 as well as vinyl, dunno why they haven't done it, but it's on;y a matter of time, i wouldn't have agreed a few years ago, but now i don't see why anyone would be using vinyl

 

[pk]

last time i played out was wednesday

tbh i can't be arsed to play with you, it's not exCTLY interesting is it? yor opinion is that you would never use mp3, but it doesn't really matter since you are about 40.

Your spelling fucks up when you're pissed and angry, it's very sweet.

I never said I'd never use mp3, I've used it far more than you I'm sure, I said I didn't think it was better than vinyl.

Seems you never mastered vinyl, or the basics of studio wiring, and you think having everything on computer means you don't have to learn the basics - good luck with that.

And for the record I am nowhere near 40, sorry to disappoint you.

Pray tell, what nightclubs are open amid the posh farmland up where you live - on a Wednesday night?



The back room of an old man's pub doesn't count as "playing out" you know...

 

[pk]

do you mean only 2 people use my website?
we have a fucking wicked radio station with about 50 shows on it, and it's a nice little community. it's not as busy as here, but on the other hand that means we don't have to deal with psycho behaviour....

Yeah, it's real cozy. Like a hospital radio station, for example.
A small hospital. Maybe like a rehab unit or something.
For Bristle KRS to enjoy on his own.

I'm surprised you can manage to keep headphones on you're so pissed most nights.

i'm not that pissed, i just think your talking bollocks. it's not that difficult to wire a club up so you can play mp3 as well as vinyl, dunno why they haven't done it, but it's on;y a matter of time, i wouldn't have agreed a few years ago, but now i don't see why anyone would be using vinyl

Ask yourself why they haven't done it - and re-read my posts if you want the answers.

Nighty night - hope the hangover's not too nasty - drink plenty of water before you go to bed, yeah?