Do you stay off work when you have a manky cold

[xenon]

10 years stuck in the middle management rut- you soon learn who the pisstakers are..

There in lies the rub.

The great shat upon and spat upon. Not quite irrelvent enough to throw sickes, but not quite important enough to be indespenceible.

The top and the bottom will always bend the rules to their advantage.

Porr middle management.

 

[Blagsta]

If you're ill, stay at home. Work is not more important than your health and wellbeing. End of.

 

[Badgers]

I sure as hell will be staying home now. First sign of a sniffle = Flu

 

[J77]

FFS, have none of you people heard of the concept of "deadlines"?!?!?!?!

Deadlines?

Dude.

Your tie is a noose.

Fuck the man.

Peace, out.

 

[EastEnder]

Deadlines?

Dude.

Your tie is a noose.

Fuck the man.

Why?

I realise it's not terribly lefty or anarcho, but I take a bit of pride in my work. I'd rather try to do a good job, on time, than let things slide. Obviously if I'm too sick to work then fine, I'll take time off. Otherwise, I'd rather make the effort to get things done.

 

[J77]

Why?

I realise it's not terribly lefty or anarcho, but I take a bit of pride in my work. I'd rather try to do a good job, on time, than let things slide. Obviously if I'm too sick to work then fine, I'll take time off. Otherwise, I'd rather make the effort to get things done.

Yeah - I like my work too, and understand what you mean by when you come back you'll still have the same things to do but in a shorter time.

I was just trying to give a sarcy hippy comment

However, I don't think wanting to do your work is the issue here. Even if you do want to do your work, if you have a cold you should stay away. I tell this to my students when they come to see me with a cold - even though they have shown keeness in dragging themselves in, clutching tissues - I'd rather they stay away!

 

[LDR]

If you're ill, stay at home. Work is not more important than your health and wellbeing. End of.

Depends on what job you do. I personally believe the children I work with are more important than me with a cold.

I suppose it all comes down to what you mean by too ill to work really.

 

[marty21]

someone in my office is sick today, and now i have to go to an evening meeting

 

[LDR]

Can't you pull a sickie in the evening?

 

[spanglechick]

some jobs are different than others. i don't take time off for colds.

- someone will lose their free periods to cover for me - adding hours on to the ends of their days.

- the kids won't be able to cover the work they should have done - their covering of the syllabus will be compromised

- I won't get any of my non-teaching work done. Storing it up, hours per day off, til i return.

as it happens, i'm off work today - for a funeral. but i gave the advance notice so it should be a supply teacher covering, and i could set halfway relevant work, and take some marking home.

last term i went into work with a temperature of 103 - because i had to take the kids to the theatre after school - turned out to be tonsilitis. i took the next 2 days off (til the weekend). Ideally i'd have liked someone to offer to go instead of me, and i did ask, but no one was prepared to give up their evening, so i struggled through. some jobs are more responsible than others.

 

[Numbers]

And some people skate on thin ice for the mere fact they take an unacceptable ammount of time off.

 

[EastEnder]

some jobs are different than others. i don't take time off for colds.

Absolutely, there's a huge difference in dealing with stuff like colds depending on ones job. If I was bus driver I'd be more inclined to take time off - someone else would drive the bus, there'd be no real penalty for skipping a few days. Equally, if I was a fireman I'd take time off - can hardly be running into burning buildings with a Vicks inhaler stuck up your nose.

But in my current job, given it's a sedentary role, sat behind a PC all day, I can easily manage by dosing myself up with OTC remedies. And as long as I'm not too bad (in which case, obviously I'd stay at home), I can still get the work done, meet deadlines, avoid letting my colleagues down, etc.

 

[J77]

Absolutely, there's a huge difference in dealing with stuff like colds depending on ones job.

...but there's also a difference between different people in the same type of job.

I guess SC's a school teacher. I know teachers who would go in if they had the plague but others who wouldn't go in if they had hayfever.

There is a fine balance but, even if people are relying on you, if you have something which could spread - I'd still say, don't go in.

 

[LDR]

I've just had my free flu jab today at school. I'm having a little wager with one of my colleagues on who will call in sick tomorrow with a reaction to the jab.

The fact that the elderly and infirm can take a jab without getting sick speaks volumes about the lazy arses who won't come in.

 

[EastEnder]

The fact that the elderly and infirm can take a jab without getting sick speaks volumes about the lazy arses who won't come in.

You'll be fine then.

 

[Hollis]

There in lies the rub.

The great shat upon and spat upon. Not quite irrelvent enough to throw sickes, but not quite important enough to be indespenceible.

The top and the bottom will always bend the rules to their advantage.

Porr middle management.

cheers mate.. its great someone else understands the unique position of middle management.

 

[Numbers]

Middle management here where I work get the worst deal from IT. they're the ones who think they're important and who fuck us off the most with their demands.


anyway, where'd wishface get to.. I wanna know why they were so abusive to me yesterday.

 

[Blagsta]

Depends on what job you do. I personally believe the children I work with are more important than me with a cold.

I suppose it all comes down to what you mean by too ill to work really.

If its a minor cold, I agree with you. If you feel like shit, then your own wellbeing is far more important. Its only a job. Its not life or death.

 

[Blagsta]

some jobs are different than others. i don't take time off for colds.

- someone will lose their free periods to cover for me - adding hours on to the ends of their days.

- the kids won't be able to cover the work they should have done - their covering of the syllabus will be compromised

- I won't get any of my non-teaching work done. Storing it up, hours per day off, til i return.

as it happens, i'm off work today - for a funeral. but i gave the advance notice so it should be a supply teacher covering, and i could set halfway relevant work, and take some marking home.

last term i went into work with a temperature of 103 - because i had to take the kids to the theatre after school - turned out to be tonsilitis. i took the next 2 days off (til the weekend). Ideally i'd have liked someone to offer to go instead of me, and i did ask, but no one was prepared to give up their evening, so i struggled through. some jobs are more responsible than others.

Sorry, but management should have contingency plans for people being off sick, that don't include others losing out. People get sick, management need to deal with it. Its not your responsibility.

 

[spanglechick]

Sorry, but management should have contingency plans for people being off sick, that don't include others losing out. People get sick, management need to deal with it. Its not your responsibility.

but since they don't have contingency plans - and the alternative is that the trip is cancelled and either the kids lose all their money, or the school has to divert money it hasn't got to refunds - me saying it's management's responsibity is pointless.

it doesn't solve the problem. what solves the problem is me sitting in a west end theatre with a fever. i survived. then i took time off sick.

 

[LDR]

Well surprise, surprise. The teacher who I bet wouldn't be in today after the flu jab, isn't in work today. Apparently, she has the flu. She was completely fine yesterday.

I can't help but be cynical about this.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

I don't get paid if I take the day off sick, so if I have a cold I have to go in.

 

[Numbers]

I'm curious about wishface's absence from the thread, especially having shown such venom earlier on.

 

[EastEnder]

Probably off on a sickie......

 

[oddworld]

Well surprise, surprise. The teacher who I bet wouldn't be in today after the flu jab, isn't in work today. Apparently, she has the flu. She was completely fine yesterday.

I can't help but be cynical about this.

((( flu'y teacher )))

 

[Blagsta]

but since they don't have contingency plans - and the alternative is that the trip is cancelled and either the kids lose all their money, or the school has to divert money it hasn't got to refunds - me saying it's management's responsibity is pointless.

it doesn't solve the problem. what solves the problem is me sitting in a west end theatre with a fever. i survived. then i took time off sick.

Problem is that with people like you always going in when you feel ill, the management will never get their act together. You're shooting yourself in the foot.

 

[Loki]

NEWSFLASH: BUGS ARE EVERYWHERE. YOU CANNOT AVOID THEM.

... and especially prevalent when people in full flush of cold / flu (vector: air, there's a hint!) are insisting on commuting with healthy people in crowded trains and buses, and then spreading the lurgi to their colleagues at work.

Stay at home! What's more important, some lousy deadline or the well-being of people around you?