Ninjaboy said:i bet some of the experimental stuff i listen to would be called jazz by jazz people![]()
Ninjaboy said:just a few reccomendations tho
i bet some of the experimental stuff i listen to would be called jazz by jazz people![]()
Ninjaboy said:checking them out....
poului said:They've all got colossal discographies so I can't speak for everything they've done, before you come back with "I heard one track and it was SHIT!" etc.

Ninjaboy said:but anyone who sez they are into jazz, i wouldnt trust em![]()

Ninjaboy said:see whats going on in jazz, people wibbling with instruments for 1 hour improvisations
music without corners etc![]()
marsalis isn't a wanker - he just know what he wants to do, and is pretty much peerless at it.poului said:Jazz is actually the most flexible musical term around, it's even more flexible than rock, and has an endless number of connotations, regardless of what wankers like Wynton Marsalis would like to have you believe.
killer b said:marsalis isn't a wanker - he just know what he wants to do, and is pretty much peerless at it.
killer b said:his big band is amazing...
killer b said:so he doesn't like yer atonal free-jazz? so what? .
why should he? if he feels (as i believe he does) that some of the ore experimental stuff damages the reputation and development of 'true' jazz, then he has every right to speak about it. just as you have every right to disagree with him... i don't see how that makes him a wanker though - as i say, he simply knows what he wants to do.poului said:well why doesn't he keep it to himself like everyone else?
killer b said:what's your view on django bates btw? (a completely unrelated question...)
Spinal Tap A-Z said:Jazz Odyssey: Written by Derek, this instrumental premiered at Themeland Amusement Park in Stockton, California, during the 1982 tour despite David's reluctance to "do a free-form jazz exploration in front of a festival crowd." As it turned out, only a sparse crowd was on hand to witness the rebirth of Tap sans Nigel. It may have been a good thing: Nigel is not a fan of jazz. "Jazz," he said in 1992," is just a series of mistakes without the 'oops.' " (LT) Nigel has also lambasted jazz guitarists for playing so soft. "I don't understand it. They use this bizarre tone on their guitars; it's like it's under a tub of water. It's like plup-plup-plup-plup-plup, like a little motor boat. But I think that's because they're old people, and they don't like the noise. And of course they play soft, so you can't hear them. Then they go, 'Yeah, I'm a great player.' 'Sure, mate. I've gotta take your word for it.' With me, I play loud. My manhood is right on the table. Examine it, pick it up, if you will." (GP) Derek: "Hopefully there's a bit of Jazz Odyssey in everything we play." (QM) Asked if the band would ever record Jazz Odyssey, Derek replied, "To record it, I think, would be to imprison a bird that must fly free." (WP)
Guess what's going on the jukebox tonight.Calva dosser said:I loathe the noise I consider it to be a potential disturbance to pure sounds, like cross-channel ferry diesels.

poului said:I'm not doing an akirajoel and saying "listen to this record and it'll all make sense".
Doesn't have to be though all the time though does it? Can be quiet, sad, troubled, etc. Also, statistically, quite likely to be shit at any one time, unless they're taking no risks.killer b said:i think a lot of people see jazz as too serious. it isn't - the improvisation in a quality jazz gig should be playful and entertaining
Same reason you might acquire a taste in anything else- after a certain amount of effort it becomes rewarding. How much effort will depend on lots of stuff...Yossarian said:I don't know why anybody would spend years deliberately trying to acquire a taste for jazz
Also, statistically, quite likely to be shit at any one time,
chooch said:Same reason you might acquire a taste in anything else- after a certain amount of effort it becomes rewarding. How much effort will depend on lots of stuff...
Yes.kyser_soze said:Is there a correlation with the length of beards/hair of the band in this analysis?
Ninjaboy said:so what interesting jazz music that should i listen to???