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do you like jazz???

mmmm....nice


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just a few reccomendations tho

i bet some of the experimental stuff i listen to would be called jazz by jazz people :confused:
 
Ninjaboy said:
i bet some of the experimental stuff i listen to would be called jazz by jazz people :confused:



Cecil Taylor, Anthony Braxton, John Zorn..?

They're all definitely jazz IMO.

and fucking awesome too.
 
checking them out....

last jazz i heard was panicstepper and it was fucking appaling (one good song then an album of noise)
 
Ninjaboy said:
checking them out....


They've all got colossal discographies so I can't speak for everything they've done, before you come back with "I heard one track and it was SHIT!" etc.
 
Ninjaboy said:
see whats going on in jazz, people wibbling with instruments for 1 hour improvisations

music without corners etc :rolleyes:

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Niiice!
 
poului said:
Jazz is actually the most flexible musical term around, it's even more flexible than rock, and has an endless number of connotations, regardless of what wankers like Wynton Marsalis would like to have you believe.
marsalis isn't a wanker - he just know what he wants to do, and is pretty much peerless at it.

we went to the last night of his residency at the jazz cafe in 2003, and it was one of the finest, and most joyous, gigs i've ever been to.

i think a lot of people see jazz as too serious. it isn't - the improvisation in a quality jazz gig should be playful and entertaining, as well as musically interesting and enjoyable. it has been at all the good jazz gigs i've been to.
 
killer b said:
marsalis isn't a wanker - he just know what he wants to do, and is pretty much peerless at it.


what, at dusting up his museum exhibit of big band and then constantly making a point of putting down other more interesting musicians as not being "true jazz" etc?
 
his big band is amazing... so he doesn't like yer atonal free-jazz? so what? he does far more for jazz than many more 'interesting' musicians...
 
killer b said:
his big band is amazing...

having seen them at the RAH, I think we'll have to agree to disagree on that matter.

killer b said:
so he doesn't like yer atonal free-jazz? so what? .


well why doesn't he keep it to himself like everyone else?
 
well i've heard two songs and they just sound like more jazz to me :D

i have seen good jazz played livve and it rocked

but y'kna.....
 
poului said:
well why doesn't he keep it to himself like everyone else?
why should he? if he feels (as i believe he does) that some of the ore experimental stuff damages the reputation and development of 'true' jazz, then he has every right to speak about it. just as you have every right to disagree with him... i don't see how that makes him a wanker though - as i say, he simply knows what he wants to do.

what's your view on django bates btw? (a completely unrelated question...)
 
killer b said:
what's your view on django bates btw? (a completely unrelated question...)


haven't really heard enough of his stuff to make a judgement, seems interesting enough though.


and Marsalis is still a wanker.
 
Spinal Tap A-Z said:
Jazz Odyssey: Written by Derek, this instrumental premiered at Themeland Amusement Park in Stockton, California, during the 1982 tour despite David's reluctance to "do a free-form jazz exploration in front of a festival crowd." As it turned out, only a sparse crowd was on hand to witness the rebirth of Tap sans Nigel. It may have been a good thing: Nigel is not a fan of jazz. "Jazz," he said in 1992," is just a series of mistakes without the 'oops.' " (LT) Nigel has also lambasted jazz guitarists for playing so soft. "I don't understand it. They use this bizarre tone on their guitars; it's like it's under a tub of water. It's like plup-plup-plup-plup-plup, like a little motor boat. But I think that's because they're old people, and they don't like the noise. And of course they play soft, so you can't hear them. Then they go, 'Yeah, I'm a great player.' 'Sure, mate. I've gotta take your word for it.' With me, I play loud. My manhood is right on the table. Examine it, pick it up, if you will." (GP) Derek: "Hopefully there's a bit of Jazz Odyssey in everything we play." (QM) Asked if the band would ever record Jazz Odyssey, Derek replied, "To record it, I think, would be to imprison a bird that must fly free." (WP)

Tee hee hee...
 
Jazz doesn't do anything for me, never has - I can put up with trad jazz as background music but as soon as the live free-form jazz starts I'm looking for the exits.

I like the *idea* of jazz and I guess I'm glad it exists - must be an acquired taste, but with all the other good music out there I don't know why anybody would spend years deliberately trying to acquire a taste for jazz unless they were shipwrecked on Jazz Island.
 
The only thing better then listening to Jazz is performing it :cool:

Freestyle Jazz singing or be bopping fucking rawks I had an amazing singing teacher who used to perform at The Jazz Café if you can get the confidence and the feeling to perform it it’s great.

*I wanna do it again* :(
 
I see people are making the absurd assumption that Jazz is in someway 'music'.

This leads to endless confusion as to over whether it's good or bad.

I loathe the noise I consider it to be a potential disturbance to pure sounds, like cross-channel ferry diesels.

This is not to say jazz is 'bad'. I just don't know what it is. Much like partial differential calculus.
 
Calva dosser said:
I loathe the noise I consider it to be a potential disturbance to pure sounds, like cross-channel ferry diesels.
Guess what's going on the jukebox tonight. :p
 
killer b said:
i think a lot of people see jazz as too serious. it isn't - the improvisation in a quality jazz gig should be playful and entertaining
Doesn't have to be though all the time though does it? Can be quiet, sad, troubled, etc. Also, statistically, quite likely to be shit at any one time, unless they're taking no risks.
Yossarian said:
I don't know why anybody would spend years deliberately trying to acquire a taste for jazz
Same reason you might acquire a taste in anything else- after a certain amount of effort it becomes rewarding. How much effort will depend on lots of stuff...
 
chooch said:
Same reason you might acquire a taste in anything else- after a certain amount of effort it becomes rewarding. How much effort will depend on lots of stuff...


Yeah - but I find it makes a lot more sense to start with stuff that I like and get into stuff progressively from there, rather take stuff I think I should like and work backwards.
 
kyser_soze said:
Is there a correlation with the length of beards/hair of the band in this analysis?
Yes.

To a first approximation
Ps=J*b*n*e*t/c

where J is jazz constant (experimentally determined)
b is beard length
c is percentage of chin covered by beard
n is average no of necks on guitar
e is percentage of band playing with eyes closed
t is corduroy trouser factor
 
Ninjaboy said:
so what interesting jazz music that should i listen to???

Not everyone's cup of tea, but a few personal recommendations for 'interesting' jazz - all haunting and/or chill out stuff (won't appeal to the junglist!). Broken the links but all the below have free downloads or previews:

Jan Garbarek: with The Hilliard Ensemble - Officium. Chambermusic+jazz sax. Guess you'd need to like classical to appreciate it, def falls in the 'interesting' category though.
http: //www.musicolog.com/garbarek_about.asp (go to auditorium for tracks)

Barbara Thompson's Songs From The Centre of the Earth. Haunting sax recorded in a French monastery.
http: //www.artistdirect.com/nad/store/artist/album/0,,174889,00.html

Keiko Matsui - worth listening to some of the downloads available here:
http: //www.mp3.com/keiko-matsui/artists/6018/discography.html
 
i just listened to some cecil parker on polului recommendation and it is just fannying about

it's a fucking mess, i don't care how long they studied for :D
 
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