Do you like graphic novels? [link]

[sojourner]

Yeah I know what you mean, but they really are worth the effort if you find something amazing like Ware (soz, I'm a big fan! )
I used to work at Central Saint Martins and they had a massoove graphic novel section and I occasionally flicked through the stuff there...some of the illustrations in the books were shit...like really dark books with dodge illustrations obscuring the text and I was always like 'why the fuck would you put yourself through that??'

I got given one, called the rat, or something. it was mice, jewish mice, ww2 stuff...and the story was alright, but the pics really fucked me head up so i gave up on it

 

[fogbat]

I usually find myself reading the text and really only seeing the graphics enough to know what's going on. Usually find myself going back afterwards and appreciating the pretty pictures

 

[Madusa]

I usually find myself reading the text and really only seeing the graphics enough to know what's going on. Usually find myself going back afterwards and appreciating the pretty pictures

Thats the thing about graphs. you can appreciate them over and over if the illustrations are good.

What the fuck have they done to Tank Girl?

 

[quimcunx]

I look at the pics first and then read the text typically.

Maybe that's where I go wrong (she says like she spends all her spare time trying to appreciate graphic novels) I'm more a words person so look at them first then have to interrupt myself to interpret the picture, before getting to read the next bit, or forget to look at the pics and have to double back because I think I've missed some vital pictorial plot device. or summat.

 

[Madusa]

From fucking this:

To this fucking Beatrice Potter-esque shite

 

[zoooo]

WTF?
Why/Who/When have they done that?!!!

Yuck.

 

[quimcunx]

My flatmate has Watchmen and I've been recommended Promethea (?) and opinions on either?

 

[Madusa]

WTF?
Why/Who/When have they done that?!!!

Yuck.

I know!! Think this came out earlier this year. She's been 'updated' and awash with water fucking colour! Jeez! Cant they leave anything alone??

http://www.idwpublishing.com/titles/tankgirl.shtml

 

[quimcunx]

~The first pic is so much sassier. Was it to attract more girls?

 

[Madusa]

~The first pic is so much sassier. Was it to attract more girls?

Well the original guys behind Tank Girl got a ponce artist to do the new illustrations and let him 'run with it' and do whatever he fuckin felt like at the time

Basically

Seriously, Beatrice Potter could have made this 'edgier'.

 

[fogbat]

From fucking this:

To this fucking Beatrice Potter-esque shite

To be fair, the first pic isn't exactle representative of Tank Girl's early days, but fuck me, the second one's awful!

Is there some sort of context or is it really that bad?

 

[Madusa]

To be fair, the first pic isn't exactle representative of Tank Girl's early days, but fuck me, the second one's awful!

Is there some sort of context or is it really that bad?

yeah i know, but I love the first pic so thats why i chose it.

Read the link I provided!

 

[zoooo]

It was the front cover of one of the comics. I loved that pic.
Jamie Hewlett (is that right?) was just perfect.
His stuff then, (I don't know what the hell he's doing now, adverts?) was really inspiring. Loved it.

Okay, I've read the link now, I can see what they're saying - the way she dressed then is now commonplace, so they wanted to find a new way to make her look rebellious. But... Tank Girl in fucking court shoes? No.

 

[Madusa]

It was the front cover of one of the comics. I loved that pic.
Jamie Hewlett (is that right?) was just perfect.
His stuff then, (I don't know what the hell he's doing now, adverts?) was really inspiring. Loved it.

Thats the fella! Yeah me too. dunno what he's doing now, mind

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

is all the art like that or is that an insert?

 

[Part 2]

I'd recommend The Walking Dead. Fucking great series.

Once I get a laptop I'm going digital with my reading, loads of graphic novels and comics available on the torrents.

 

[Reno]

I got given one, called the rat, or something. it was mice, jewish mice, ww2 stuff...and the story was alright, but the pics really fucked me head up so i gave up on it

That's Maus by Art Spiegelman, which I think is one of the greatest accounts of Holocaust ever written. I love the art work too.

I mostly really like graphic novel which were written and drawn by the same person. I like comic books like Amy + Jordan by Mark Beyer, Persepolis by Marjane Satrapi, Good Bye Chunkie Rice by Graig Thompson and I Never Liked You and Yummy Fur by Chester Brown. Alan Moore is one of the few artisists I like who doesn't draw. From Hell and The League of Extraodinary Gentlemen are my favourites by him.

 

[fogbat]

My flatmate has Watchmen and I've been recommended Promethea (?) and opinions on either?

Watchmen is excellent - I bought it for my dad for christmas.

Not read Promethea, but it's Alan Moore again, so bound to be good.

 

[Madusa]

is all the art like that or is that an insert?

yup, it's all like that.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

humm..

feels a bit wierd to me

most stuff i read it's always done by the same artist team... there are bit of bonus art work from other artists and of course doujinshi but a compleate re-imagining is a little wierd...

i guess you do have AUs and the like

 

[Orang Utan]

I used to feel exactly the same way about graphic novels as Sojourner Apart from enjoying Maus, I'd sniffily ignored them for years as just comics. Then someone persuaded me to read Watchmen - I found it really boring and had the same problems processing images and text as Soj decribed. I read League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen and thought it was just a silly comic, so went back to my original opinion.Then I read Epilepsy by David B and was converted - his drawings are so beautiful. Now I'm giving From Hell a go. Don't really like the drawings though.
And FWIW, I read the text then look at the pic, unless it's some massive striking picture.

 

[dweller]

WATCHMEN is brilliant. probably the best graphic novel i've read. i found promethea pretty boring. it felt like i was being lectured to. a very weak plot leading you to yet more esoteric information alan moore feels you ought to know about.