Do you have to be a c-nt to be right wing?

[isitme]

No they aren't, by definition.

That's like saying ' a lot of tall people are actually very short people'.

Slobbering out anti Left examples is entirely irrelevent to the OOP.

don't be daft

traditional conservatives believe in society and self improvement and things like that

I don't agree with their idea how to achieve society, but the anti society thing from thatcher is just as incompatible with conservativism as blairs anti society thing was incompatible with labour imo

 

[DotCommunist]

No. Lefties make me wanna be a lot more righty when they spout this idiotic bullshit.

It is a bit student grant ennit?

Save the damning judgements for pointless things like football ennit.

 

[Sadken]

It is a bit student grant ennit?

Save the damning judgements for pointless things like football ennit.

Dyooknowworrimean?

 

[DotCommunist]

don't be daft

traditional conservatives believe in society and self improvement and things like that

I don't agree with their idea how to achieve society, but the anti society thing from thatcher is just as incompatible with conservativism as blairs anti society thing was incompatible with labour imo

true

neo-liberalism serves only one master and it aint society.

 

[isitme]

Would that be the idea that making money though death and misery is bad.
Perhaps it's the one where I don't believe violence is a valid political tool or maybe because I refuse to accept bent biased stories at face value.
Maybe it's because I support the Palestinian people against the Israeli army being bastards.

Details please.

it's not your political views, it's more the attitudes that you have expressed towards people and life in general on here

I'm sure you are half joking, but either way you come across as a nasty cunt

 

[T & P]

To be honest I created the thread partly as a parody of untethered's thread about being racist/nazi etc for supporting the Palestinians.

Though I really fail to comprehend what it is with right wing people and Israel. If you changed the names of the perpetrators and victims to those of an imaginary country and asked 100 right wingers what they thought of the conflict, I suspect most of them would describe the acts of the perpetrator as a fucking atrocity. But when that perpetrator is Israel their fundamentalist and inexplicable blind support of its government throws their common decency and humanity out of the window, and they quite happily condone and even defend the most barbaric abuses imaginable.

Seriously, what is it with right wingers and Israel? I mean, I can understand the reasons behind an Israeli right winger supporting such actions. But British, American or any others?

The same with with certain other random issues, such as global warming for instance. Is there some kind of identikit chip that gets inserted into a right winger's brain that makes most of them support barbaric regimes or deny overwhelming scientific evidence regarding the climate to the point of looking like fucking flat earthers?

 

[untethered]

don't be daft

traditional conservatives believe in society and self improvement and things like that

I don't agree with their idea how to achieve society, but the anti society thing from thatcher is just as incompatible with conservativism as blairs anti society thing was incompatible with labour imo

Very true.

I think I'm going to have to start calling myself a traditionalist rather than a conservative so as not to be associated with a party which, while ostensibly I left, I consider more to have left me.

 

[Fruitloop]

To be honest I created the thread partly as a parody of untethered's thread about being racist/nazi etc for supporting the Palestinians.

Though I really fail to comprehend what it is with right wing people and Israel. If you changed the names of the perpetrators and victims to those of an imaginary country and asked 100 right wingers what they thought of the conflict, I suspect most of them would describe the acts of the perpetrator as a fucking atrocity. But when that perpetrator is Israel their fundamentalist and inexplicable blind support of its government throws their common decency and humanity out of the window, and they quite happily condone and even defend the most barbaric abuses imaginable.

Seriously, what is it with right wingers and Israel? I mean, I can understand the reasons behind an Israeli right winger supporting such actions. But British, American or any others?

The same with with certain other random issues, such as global warming for instance. Is there some kind of identikit chip that gets inserted into a right winger's brain that makes most of them support barbaric regimes or deny overwhelming scientific evidence regarding the climate to the point of looking like fucking flat earthers?

I think it's partly a U.S. disease that has got exported, that you choose between the more or less identical parties, and then that relieves you of the burden of thinking about any other issues because there's a republocrat answer for everything from climate change to gun control.

 

[untethered]

To be honest I created the thread partly as a parody of untethered's thread about being racist/nazi etc for supporting the Palestinians.

If you read more closely you'll see that thread was about supporting Hamas, not the "Palestinians".

 

[mentalchik]

No they aren't, by definition.

Er no i would take exception to that........


My much missed and beloved uncle (he was a grandad role to me)was what i would term 'an old fashioned tory' and had been all his life.........

He was certainly a lovely man, had made his own way in life, and was in no way a biogot, racist, homophobe etc etc.....

He respected other peoples views and was nothing like the type being portrayed here......


generalisations and stereotypes are a bit shit no matter who is dishing them out !

 

[Dillinger4]

don't be daft

traditional conservatives believe in society and self improvement and things like that

I don't agree with their idea how to achieve society, but the anti society thing from thatcher is just as incompatible with conservativism as blairs anti society thing was incompatible with labour imo

You keep doing really good posts. Stop messing with my expectations of you.



Also: Quite.

 

[T & P]

If you read more closely you'll see that thread was about supporting Hamas, not the "Palestinians".

I read it closely, and seeing as I have not noticed myself any significant increase in support for Hamas in this country, I can only assume you see any demonstration of support for the people of Gaza as support for Hamas.

 

[isitme]

To be honest I created the thread partly as a parody of untethered's thread about being racist/nazi etc for supporting the Palestinians.

Though I really fail to comprehend what it is with right wing people and Israel. If you changed the names of the perpetrators and victims to those of an imaginary country and asked 100 right wingers what they thought of the conflict, I suspect most of them would describe the acts of the perpetrator as a fucking atrocity. But when that perpetrator is Israel their fundamentalist and inexplicable blind support of its government throws their common decency and humanity out of the window, and they quite happily condone and even defend the most barbaric abuses imaginable.

Seriously, what is it with right wingers and Israel? I mean, I can understand the reasons behind an Israeli right winger supporting such actions. But British, American or any others?

The same with with certain other random issues, such as global warming for instance. Is there some kind of identikit chip that gets inserted into a right winger's brain that makes most of them support barbaric regimes or deny overwhelming scientific evidence regarding the climate to the point of looking like fucking flat earthers?

the communist parties of west europe failed to condemn stalins atrocities and so on. and more recently, like i mentioned before, a lot of 'the left' got in bed with some fucking disgusting sharia law people over the iraq war. I've heard from a couple of people that they went on anti-Iraq marches and heard anti semitic chanting

people are just fucking thick. on both sides

 

[isitme]

You keep doing really good posts. Stop messing with my expectations of you.



Also: Quite.

i rule

 

[untethered]

I read it closely, and seeing as I have not noticed myself any significant increase in support for Hamas in this country, I can only assume you see any demonstration of support for the people of Gaza as support for Hamas.

Ah, so it was a baseless assumption.

I thought you were just being stupid.

 

[Dillinger4]

i rule

Your twistin my melon man.

 

[T & P]

Ah, so it was a baseless assumption.

I thought you were just being stupid.

Or maybe you were lying about support for Hamas increasing in this country.

Care to post some evidence of that?

 

[derf]

it's not your political views, it's more the attitudes that you have expressed towards people and life in general on here

I'm sure you are half joking, but either way you come across as a nasty cunt

Would that be supporting life over misery. A theme in most of my posts if you care to read them.
I do refuse to accept stories at face value especially when they come from a source that is biased to say the least.

I'm not a nasty cunt but just a misunderstood nice person. It says so on my strapline.
This is an 'orrible cunt

 

[untethered]

Or maybe you were lying about support for Hamas increasing in this country.

Care to post some evidence of that?

There seemed to be several thousand of them marching around London recently, smashing up coffee shops, battling with the police, etc.

"Peace march" my foot.

 

[isitme]

Would that be supporting life over misery. A theme in most of my posts if you care to read them.
I do refuse to accept stories at face value especially when they come from a source that is biased to say the least.

I'm not a nasty cunt but just a misunderstood nice person. It says so on my strapline.
This is an 'orrible cunt

you aren't misunderstood. you have expressed views and attitudes on here that I have understood perfectly, and you come across as a nasty piece of work to be honest

 

[T & P]

There seemed to be several thousand of them marching around London recently, smashing up coffee shops, battling with the police, etc.

See, I was right all along

 

[DownwardDog]

Given what practically all of them seem keen to support racist regimes, fascists, butchers, war criminals, ethnic cleansing, war crimes, land appropriation, pre-emptive wars, expansionism and imperialism amongst others, I fail to see how you could be a right winger without being an utter, grade A cunt.

Perhaps any resident U75 right winger could clarify.

It's the other way round. The journey to right wingery starts when you realise that most other people are cunts and, therefore, any action or philosophy other than ruthless self interest is inappropriate.

 

[T & P]

It's the other way round. The journey to right wingery starts when you realise that most other people are cunts and, therefore, any action or philosophy other than ruthless self interest is inappropriate.

But most other people are cunts because they already are right wingers.

 

[DotCommunist]

Would that be supporting life over misery. A theme in most of my posts if you care to read them.
I do refuse to accept stories at face value especially when they come from a source that is biased to say the least.

I'm not a nasty cunt but just a misunderstood nice person. It says so on my strapline.
This is an 'orrible cunt

I think there was once a good person in you derf, it shows occasionally on some subjects. But it is your morality that has turned you into a cunt. Somewhere along the line you stopped doing the entirely necessary re-evaluation of thought. Hence you slipped into cuntdom.
I get the impression you never really looked at issues in a wider context, never sought to explain to yourself the why. So you are in the truest sense a reactionary, you write your script of a Good and Moral man because you attack effect rather than cause.
You are morally repugnant to me, but i think there may be a shred of good in you. It is not beyond anyone to take on board solid information and alter their behavior/attitudes accordingly. I urge you to take a long hard look at yourself and rethink your thoroughly stinking attitudes.

 

[derf]

I think there was once a good person in you derf, it shows occasionally on some subjects. But it is your morality that has turned you into a cunt. Somewhere along the line you stopped doing the entirely necessary re-evaluation of thought. Hence you slipped into cuntdom.
I get the impression you never really looked at issues in a wider context, never sought to explain to yourself the why. So you are in the truest sense a reactionary, you write your script of a Good and Moral man because you attack effect rather than cause.
You are morally repugnant to me, but i think there may be a shred of good in you. It is not beyond anyone to take on board solid information and alter their behavior/attitudes accordingly. I urge you to take a long hard look at yourself and rethink your thoroughly stinking attitudes.

I'm sort of a doppelganger of Darth vador.
I was that pissed up bastard with morals that an alley cat would be ashamed of but as i grew older I realised that there was more to life than just having fun without giving a shit about anyone else as long as I could have a fast bike and a drink or ten with my equally fucked up mates.
I worked it out that people actually matter to me and things that do harm to people are bad news.
So I picked up morals somewhere on the line and stopped being a cunt. Is that so bad?
Having said that i now own a bike again and do like a blow out on it from time to time but don't blast off down the pub and get pissed any more.

You just have to consider the bright side. I have managed to work out that other people do matter and I would sooner defend them than those who would hurt them.
See I may not be such a cunt after all.
Now, like Vador, Anikin is still in there so I do have to be careful that I don't start shagging around and getting pissed again.
I may turn into an urban style nice person.

 

[isitme]

you really aren't like darth vader

i don't think the phrase 'get over yourself' has ever been more apt than you comparing yourself to darth vader cos you have dodgy views

 

[DotCommunist]

I'm sort of a doppelganger of Darth vador.
I was that pissed up bastard with morals that an alley cat would be ashamed of but as i grew older I realised that there was more to life than just having fun without giving a shit about anyone else as long as I could have a fast bike and a drink or ten with my equally fucked up mates.
I worked it out that people actually matter to me and things that do harm to people are bad news.
So I picked up morals somewhere on the line and stopped being a cunt. Is that so bad?
Having said that i now own a bike again and do like a blow out on it from time to time but don't blast off down the pub and get pissed any more.

You just have to consider the bright side. I have managed to work out that other people do matter and I would sooner defend them than those who would hurt them.
See I may not be such a cunt after all.
Now, like Vador, Anikin is still in there so I do have to be careful that I don't start shagging around and getting pissed again.
I may turn into an urban style nice person.

morality is not 'picked up' ffs, you really are a cunt if you cannot see the necessity of constant evaluation wrt ethical practise

 

[camouflage]

Given what practically all of them seem keen to support racist regimes, fascists, butchers, war criminals, ethnic cleansing, war crimes, land appropriation, pre-emptive wars, expansionism and imperialism amongst others, I fail to see how you could be a right winger without being an utter, grade A cunt.

Perhaps any resident U75 right winger could clarify.

Just the nature of antisocialism init.

 

[derf]

morality is not 'picked up' ffs, you really are a cunt if you cannot see the necessity of constant evaluation wrt ethical practise

We all evolve as we drag ourselves through life. My attitudes and opinions have changed from those you may expect from a pissed up biker with racist and homophobic attitudes to someone who no longer bothers with the booze and has decided that people are just people regardless of what they are or their personal ideas as to what is right for them.
The only caveat I would put on that is I object if their thing is harmful to others.
That explains my dislike of the drug trade and political violence.

 

[chainsaw cat]

don't be daft

traditional conservatives believe in society and self improvement and things like that

I don't agree with their idea how to achieve society, but the anti society thing from thatcher is just as incompatible with conservativism as blairs anti society thing was incompatible with labour imo

OP said 'right wing' not 'Conservative'.