Do you believe that there is "girls food" and "boys food"?

[gracious]

someone hasn't learned the difference between personal, anecdotal experience and empirical evidence.

i think what i said does count as empirical evidence. i worked there for several years and this pattern continued week in week out, i.e. over a sample of at least 500 meals with that pattern coming up far too often to be chance. it is at the very least empirical evidence of the difference in tastes in pizza between men and women over that menu in that part of south london.... and women prefer the gowletini, men prefer the american hot.

 

[gracious]

Which was to make a call out thread

what does that mean?

 

[DotCommunist]

As I have already stated. You could have stated your opinion in a few sentences, but you chose to back it up with subjective account, woolly view of anthropology and a claim to being 'un-PC'. The very fact that you consider a Political Correctness body against which you threw your post is what had my initial ire. You've bought a sodding lie, or accepted the term because it suits your own prejudice.

 

[DotCommunist]

i think what i said does count as empirical evidence. i worked there for several years and this pattern continued week in week out, i.e. over a sample of at least 500 meals with that pattern coming up far too often to be chance. it is at the very least empirical evidence of the difference in tastes in pizza between men and women over that menu in that part of south london.... and women prefer the gowletini, men prefer the american hot.

honestly, just go to a dictionary.

 

[gracious]

From the Miriam Webster online dictionary empirical evidence means: 1 : originating in or based on observation or experience <empirical data> 2 : relying on experience or observation alone often without due regard for system and theory <an empirical basis for the theory> 3 : capable of being verified or disproved by observation or experiment <empirical laws>

i always think its really funny when people on the internet get really angry over semantics.

 

[coccinelle]

As I have already stated. You could have stated your opinion in a few sentences, but you chose to back it up with subjective account, woolly view of anthropology and a claim to being 'un-PC'. The very fact that you consider a Political Correctness body against which you threw your post is what had my initial ire. You've bought a sodding lie, or accepted the term because it suits your own prejudice.

I think you are protesting far too much at a reasonable, inoffensive post and you seem to be angered because my post was subjective, when I admitted from the start that it was. From being 'offensive', now it becomes a 'sodding lie' from my own 'prejudice'. And you accuse me of being on a different planet!

 

[Badgers]

I am not keen on fish
Wife is less keen on lamb

This is not a hard and fast rule for everyone though!

 

[DotCommunist]

I think you are protesting far too much at a reasonable, inoffensive post and you seem to be angered because my post was subjective, when I admitted from the start that it was. From being 'offensive', now it becomes a 'sodding lie' from my own 'prejudice'. And you accuse me of being on a different planet!

you know what? I'm not going to repeat myself a dozen times for the benefit of a poster who cried 'boy' at the first sign of disagreement. Go forth and multiply.

 

[coccinelle]

you know what? I'm not going to repeat myself a dozen times for the benefit of a poster who cried 'boy' at the first sign of disagreement..

I believe it was in response to your first patronising post, viz

"I was facepalming when I read the words 'PC' and 'stereotypes'

*jean luc cannot express my dismay*

 

[DotCommunist]

and if that comment was not elucidated enough, then tough cause I have wasted a lot of skin off my fingers responding to an imbecile. Have the last word, go on.

 

[Agent Sparrow]

There has been a lot of scoffing (!) at male/female food stereotypes but I think stereotypes have a basis in reality. After all, cultural stereotypes usually arise from anecdotal consensus and, just because we live in a PC world where we are supposed to believe that everyone is exactly the same as everyone else, I don't think we should dismiss what we come to understand from our own personal experience,

Hmmm, stereotypes can have some basis in reality, but the most they can represent is a caricature of general trends, rather than how one group acts and how another is different. IME, people tend to generalise stereotypes way more than the real situation warrants. This is why they become potentially very damaging.

I think there might be a trend in which women tend to eat healthier and/or lower calorie food. And I suspect that is reflective of many wider gender socialisation issues, e.g. there being more pressure on women to be skinny and beautiful. And that certainly doesn't apply to all men and women - there's plenty of exceptions, and I suspect much more fundamental similarity than difference.

It's easy to laugh at the hunter/gatherer stereotype where men are seen as hunters of red meat and women are seen as gatherers of nuts, roots, berries, seafood etc but this is a model that probably has existed in almost all cultures for hundreds of thousands of years and which may have only been overwritten by our new social norms a matter of a few hundred years ago. Maybe after all that time, there are cultural differences written into our genes.

As has been mentioned, that's different roles in obtaining food, not different eating habits. I see no evidence which would support an idea of gender based genetic food preferences.

 

[DotCommunist]

i always think its really funny when people on the internet get really angry over semantics.

mirriam webster, lol. Try OED and try for 'empirical' as a word not the combined phrase

hth hand

 

[gracious]

like im going to pay for an online subscription to OED just to prove my point to you when clearly you arent even really interested in the question or what my observations add to the answer to it.

in fact, im not sure you're really interested in any question - capitalism, branding, what constitutes evidence, male female eating habits etc. your posts come across like all you are really interested in is trying to prove you are superior to everyone else here, you seem to put a lot of effort into doing that. in my experience self aggrandisement about intelligence is a sign of mediocrity. really clever people dont need to prove it to everyone, but are usually genuinely interested in lots of things and lots of different people's experiences and opinions.

 

[DotCommunist]

Bully for you chum, have a cup of tea and stfu then.

 

[Agent Sparrow]

Tbf DC has a point, personal observations don't count as empirical evidence (unless you are running a study yourself). For a start, with no official records, can you really trust your memory that much? Particularly considering that when people start looking for a trend, they are more likely to observe and remember evidence that supports it, and to disregard or forget evidence that doesn't. Cognitive dissonance, innit.

I wouldn't be surprised if there is more gender typed eating behaviour in men and women who are quite "masculine" and "feminine" in different ways. I also wouldn't be surprised that if my early supposition is correct, that women tend to eat healthier or lower calorie food, that it's also somewhat connected to why girls work harder at school these days.

 

[Badgers]

Girls - Peperami Original
Boys - Peperami Firestick

 

[becki1701]

*Dances around and sprinkles love.....and those little silver balls for decorating cakes that MUST go into the girls category*