Do I want to get Windows 10?

Discussion in 'computers, web and general tech' started by Stanley Edwards, Feb 11, 2016.



  1. yAH.

    25 vote(s)
  2. nAH.

    42 vote(s)
  1. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

  2. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

    It used to be that you bought a new computer and the manufacturer had filled it full of pre-installed shit and you reinstalled windows to get rid of it. Now it seems you have to spend a couple of hours getting rid of the shit that comes with windows itself.
  3. danny la rouge

    danny la rouge Warning: posts may cause vasovagal presyncope

    The latest Windows 10 update seems to have made Cortana a lot more intrusive. I'd been happy just ignoring it, but now it is actively annoying me. I've tried turning off everything I can find, but it's still there doing stuff. How do I get rid?
  4. dervish

    dervish if you flibble when you wibble, don't wobble

    What's it doing? I found all the pop-up and demands to use onedrive as annoying enough to get rid of it last time round, I was going to give creators update a go but not if they've managed to make cortana even more annoying.
  5. danny la rouge

    danny la rouge Warning: posts may cause vasovagal presyncope

    Well, for example notifications are popping up telling me things I might want to do based on things it thinks I like doing. I hate this sort of thing. I've turned off the notifications.But that's just a surface thing, right? It's still there doing its thing.

    There used to be a thing that allowed you to choose "stop getting to know me", this update seems to have removed that option. So now I want to get rid of it entirely, but can't see how to turn all off.
  6. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato T'agba ta ti de, a ma yo ogunja.

    I don't remember (which is bugger all use to you), but it can be done. I killed it when I got W10, and it's never come back.
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  7. danny la rouge

    danny la rouge Warning: posts may cause vasovagal presyncope

    Yeah, I've had 10 for ages. But this is a new update. Arrived yesterday.
  8. dervish

    dervish if you flibble when you wibble, don't wobble

    Hmmm, I think I'll stick with linux on my main machine then.
  9. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato T'agba ta ti de, a ma yo ogunja.

    Ah. Hasn't got to me then.
  10. danny la rouge

    danny la rouge Warning: posts may cause vasovagal presyncope

    My advice right now would be deny if you can.
  11. Stanley Edwards

    Stanley Edwards 1967 Maserati Mistral.

    My Win10 laptop has just started quitting suddenly. Insisting on a restart.

    Despite the spec's being well above what Microsoft recommend, I have never managed to successfully install an entire update. About 2 years old now, perhaps a bit more. Generally trouble free give, or take a few minor irritations, but now it just shutdowns for absolutely no reason.

    I will pay for a RAM upgrade. If that fails, I quit Windows forever.
  12. Saul Goodman

    Saul Goodman It's all good, man

    I doubt that's the case. There's always a reason.
  13. Lurdan

    Lurdan old wave

    I think Microsoft made it more difficult to kill Cortana after last years Anniversary update. This page dates from last July after the original opt out switch had been removed. Can't try it out myself because Cortana was dead to me before she'd even run once, but it looks ok

    Killing Cortana: How to disable Windows 10's info-hungry digital assistant - PC World

    Obviously you will lose some functionality
    danny la rouge and Lazy Llama like this.
  14. JimW

    JimW 支那暗杀团

    I read a couple of blogs that showed you how to disable Cortana but still keep the search functionality from post this 'creators update' but the method also involves editing the registry so not for everyone. Quick Google should find instructions if you do want to try.
  15. danny la rouge

    danny la rouge Warning: posts may cause vasovagal presyncope

    That looks just the job, cheers. The functionality I'll lose is stuff I don't like or want anyway.

  16. Gromit

    Gromit International Man of Misery

    Man Windows 10 runs like a slug on 4gb of ram.

    Bought new Laptop with Windows 10 installed.
    Spent a day stripping all the crap out of it (HP crap, trial this and that) and it was still slow with the bare bones.
    Cortana is now intrusively embedded.

    M$ need to learn to fuck off and let us choose our own software. Windows is a fucking operating system. Stick to being a fucking operating system.
    UnderAnOpenSky and classicdish like this.
  17. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

    Dunno what you guys are doing, but if your able to, do a clean install and start from scratch.

    The only Lenovo tool I install on my laptop is the one that auto updates drivers and firmware. Mainly because it's easier than manually downloading every driver after a fresh install.

    I run Win10 VMs on my laptop and give them 3GB of RAM and they work fine.

    Can't say i find Cortana being intrusive either, but maybe it remembers settings as I log in with my Microsoft account, which means when I blow away my laptop every so often a lot of my settings get restored without me having to do it manually.
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  18. xenon

    xenon Carne Por la Machina

    Trying to upgrade my Win7 laptop to Win10. Keep getting error 0x blah. Search that and Microsoft give you a whole page of crap with such useful suggestions as try uninstalling all non essential software. The usual shit with Windows errors. We don't know, try all these teadious disruptive things.. Try everything.

    If it doesn't work this time, staying on Win7. I'll probably want a new laptop come 2020 when security updates stop anyway.
  19. Riklet

    Riklet procrastinación

    So glad I never upgraded to Windows 10.

    Installing an SSD and dualbooting ubuntu have been far better uses of my time!
  20. Saul Goodman

    Saul Goodman It's all good, man

    I swore I'd stick with Windows 7 until I have no choice but to move, but I moved to Windows 10 earlier than I had anticipated. Why? Because it's better than Windows 7 (once you know how to use it.)
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  21. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    RE Cortana, ive never used it and feel against it based on fear but is it actually that bad a thing? Whats the case for/against? My barriers on resisting new technology are coming down - its a losing battle
  22. UnderAnOpenSky

    UnderAnOpenSky baseline neural therapy

    I like the idea, but thought it was a bit shit really. I've got a mouse & keyboard and twenty something years experience using them. Its always going to be hard for voice to beat that.

    I one bit of voice rec I've quite liked is the bit google have quietly added to Docs, would be be very handy if it was in G-Mail.
  23. Riklet

    Riklet procrastinación

    Privacy issues and data security are far more important to me than anything fancy Windows 10 can offer.

    What exactly does Windows 10 do so well that Windows7/Ubuntu cant even compete?
  24. Saul Goodman

    Saul Goodman It's all good, man

    I don't have any security issues. I'm fairly certain that nothing gets out without me knowing about it and giving it the OK.

    I don't think anyone is saying Windows 10 is the last word in OSes. I'm certainly not. I'm just saying I (finally) prefer it to W7. It does take a while to get it running the way you want it, but once it's sorted it's nice.

    I used to run Windows 7 and Ubuntu on dual boot, but since it's possible to run Linux from Windows 10, I find myself rarely rebooting to Ubuntu these days.
  25. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

    If security and privacy are your main concerns, you should be on Windows 10.

    Please activate the anti-ransomware protection in your Windows 10 Fall Creators Update PC. Ta

    etc etc etc
  26. panpete

    panpete Blokes name, birds body.

    Somewhere on google is some important info about protecting privacy before starting to use windows 10. I installed it without looking at this info, i dont have a link but if you google privacy and win 10 you will find it. Im back on windows 8.1 as i bought a pc off a mate and im glad i got my privacy back. Cortana can go and do one lol :)
  27. dervish

    dervish if you flibble when you wibble, don't wobble

    Only after you spend a significant amount of time turning off all the intrusive crap that is on by default.

    How to reclaim your privacy in Windows 10, piece by piece

    If you actually want a secure and private os there are many out there, (debian, Tails, Qubes etc) none of them are windows 10.
  28. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

    I assume all you people that do this, also do something similar on your phones?

    Not denying your second statement, the thread is mainly about Windows.
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  29. dervish

    dervish if you flibble when you wibble, don't wobble

    That's not the point, this thread is mainly about windows. You stated that you should use windows if security and privacy are your main concern. I'm not sure how you square that when you have to do some significant modifications (which 90% of users won't know about) to be able to have privacy on the operating system that you have paid for.

    Not to mention that security has never been windows' strength.
  30. UnderAnOpenSky

    UnderAnOpenSky baseline neural therapy

    I'll go through and do the suggestions just because, but I find it hard to get as bothered about it as I once would, seeing how much of my privacy I've sold to Google in the name of convince.

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