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Do British people realize how lucky they are to have the BBC?

Backatcha Bandit said:
Yep. It's much worse.

That doesn't magically make the effluent the BBC pump out any better...

One of "worse" and "better" is being used in a sense with which I am unfamiliar.

As Bernie says: better to have a different bias available.

Wish I could get TF2 (France) and ZDF (Germany) here with their different biasses...
 
laptop said:
One of "worse" and "better" is being used in a sense with which I am unfamiliar.

As Bernie says: better to have a different bias available.

Wish I could get TF2 (France) and ZDF (Germany) here with their different biasses...

TF2 started out recent reporting on the student demos with a direct criticism of the CRS for "intervening selectively" in failing to protect the demonstrators from being mugged.

Now, TF2 has its bias. But can you imagine the BBC taking a similar opening editiorial line.

After Tebbit mauled them for putting a camera in Gadafys tent when the Americans bombed Tripoli the camera has always been firmly placed behind police or State lines...
 
stavros said:
Ooh, yes, but for me they don't show enough of the endless repeats of Friends and Will & Grace, and there should be more live coverage of ZZZZZZ list "celebrities" asleep, because they really warrant a terrestrial licence. :rolleyes:

totally fucking disgusting that

ch4 used to be the best channel by a mile, but because they were so succesful and filmfour took off, they stopped getting their shar of the license fee, so instead of being interesting they turned into a shite substitute for TheE!Channel or whatever

and now they are fucking cack, even more so because of the fact that they used to be good.
 
la ressistance said:
Are you mad ??? we have to pay money for it, if we want to or not.just so a bunch of over paid twats can have expensive lunches and decide how best to fuck up the schedules...............FUCK THE BBC!.......and i'm a BBC employee. :mad:
Right, and you don't pay approx 150% more for the commercial stations - where do you think the money for commercial broadcasting comes from, shareholder profits perhaps, director's bonus's, or how about from you, every time you go to the supermarket ?

No of course not, commercial tv is free, init.
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
Don't worry about it: we have BBC World, plus a million other channels.

bbc world is cack tho. they have ads on it which is one of the best things about the beeb
 
the whole bcc service is pretty shit hot tho. The music you get on the bbc is pretty much unmatched. The internet feeds from the radio keep me alive in China and they are constantly pushing new sounds (like Tayo being given a show on R1 supporting dubstep and 1xtra my favourite thing in the world) the website is great and the really have some excellent programming
 
Pugwall7 said:
the whole bcc service is pretty shit hot tho. The music you get on the bbc is pretty much unmatched. The internet feeds from the radio keep me alive in China and they are constantly pushing new sounds (like Tayo being given a show on R1 supporting dubstep and 1xtra my favourite thing in the world) the website is great and the really have some excellent programming

dunno, there are much better internet shows than 1Xtra
 
Ninjaboy said:
dunno, there are much better internet shows than 1Xtra


not if you like black music really. The whole spectrum of BBC's internet radio output means that you have so much good music at your fingertips. And its also reliable which id ont get with smaller internet radio stations.
 
stavros said:
Ooh, yes, but for me they don't show enough of the endless repeats of Friends and Will & Grace, and there should be more live coverage of ZZZZZZ list "celebrities" asleep, because they really warrant a terrestrial licence. :rolleyes:

You forgot The 100 Greatest '100 Greatest Shows presented by Jimmy Carr'.
 
The BBC is much more than 'The News' and for me its about knowing that it mostly attains and generally reaches a certain standard. Sure there are lots of duff programmes but there are also some excellent ones.

Plus the radio and to my mind radio 4 alone is almost worth the licence fee. I was listening to a programme about the life of an oak tree the other day, just a short little programme but very interesting and informative now who would take the time and money to make a programme like that? No one that is trying to sell air time thats for sure.

Other recent programmes that spring to mind are the Restorative programmes with Desmond Tutu on BBC2, Venice, Planet Earth of course and load of others...why what would we have done without all the watch with mother programmes as well? ;)
 
I don't have a tv, so I resent having to pay for ITV and Channel 4 every time I go to the shops - even Murdoch at least partially funds his channels directly (the monthly fee), ITV and C4 do it (a) entirely indirectly, and (b) so people who don't even have tv have to pay for their broadcasting.

'kin outragous.

IMO, in the digital age, direct financing has to be the future.
 
BBC Reveals Plans for Interactive Broadband TV Drama, "Wannabes"
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According to the Corporation, the series will use a mixture of streamed video, interactivity, animation and games to "encourage its Web viewers to become part of the club crowd." Among other things, the Wannabes characters will, the BBC says, "ask for advice on their relationships and life choices and award viewers a rating, depending on how much they value them as a friend."
Book: Fahrenheit 451, Ray Bradbury, 1953

Movie: Universal Pictures, 1966, starring Oskar Werner, Julie Christie and Cyril Cusack

SUMMARY: In a country of the future people who read and think for themselves are seen as a threat to society. Government supplies interactive television and mind-altering drugs to pacify citizens.
interactive tv scene transcript
 
I think the BBC is a great service, as people have said you do get some duff programes but their wildlife documentaries are the nuts, great comedies both past and present and all of you are forgetting question time, where else in the world are there programes that allow the public to question politicians? they certainly have nothing like that in America. The BBC website is also very good, particularly the news section where you have access to much more news than any of the telvised or radio broadcast news and also the radio service both internet broadcasts such as 1 xtra right up to all their national and local stations. Sure it's not perfect and isn't always unbias but it's a damn site more unbias then most other broadcast companies.

Yes I think we are quite lucky to have the BBC :)
 
Having slagged current Channel 4 upthread I will say that they do some good stuff too, such as this Friday when it's Green Wing followed by My Name Is Earl, and a good number of shows on More4. However, these are relatively few and always pail in publicity when compared to most of the populist tabloid Heat-reading stuff on C4. For example, why have they still not put the genius of Curb Your Enthusiasm on terrestrial? And why have the recent series of the excellent Sopranos and Six Feet Under been relegated to early hours on digital and moved about all over the place?
 
Ninjaboy said:
bbc world is cack tho. they have ads on it which is one of the best things about the beeb

In NA, our minds are conditioned to automatically tune out the commercials. It's as if they aren't even there.
 
stavros said:
why have they still not put the genius of Curb Your Enthusiasm on terrestrial?
No audience for it.
It would have to go on very late if it was broadcast on the core channel
 
I'd be seriously hacked off without Radio4 & Newsnight and there are still some superb dramas, documentaries and natural history programmes on BBC TV. The web site is probably the best there is.

Unfortunately there's an increasing amount of shit and the new charter review, as presented by Tessa "we're separated" Jowell talks an awful lot about "entertainment" i.e. further dumbing down and chasing ratings.

Ruling class maybe but I much prefer the partiarchal Reithian approach to the "lowest common denominator for morons with a 10sec attention span" that you get everywhere else.

But it's 5:27 and Eddie is on so why am I typing on here? :)
 
No audience for it.
It would have to go on very late if it was broadcast on the core channel
Is that not what would've been said about The Day Today, or further back Monty Python and The Young Ones? Very different to their predecessors but they proved hugely influential and legacy-leaving. Curb differs in that it's from a proven artist who co-engineered the most popular comedy in American TV history, and Larry has admitted that his thinking owes a lot to British comedians. And why, save perhaps for the Beloved Aunt episode, would it have to be on very late? They managed to put Brass Eye on at about 10.

Speaking of Curb, and I frequently do, the fact that it and other great American shows like the Sorpanos and Six Feet Under are made by HBO, a channel without ads, is evidence at how much being let off the advertisers' leashes can boost a show.
 
It got the f and c word used a lot in it, so would have to go on after 11 or even 12.
I think they should give it a chance too, but C4 can sometimes be a little too commercial minded (perhaps becuase of Andy Duncan's marketing background) when it should be fulfilling its remit to provide TV no other channel provides. Unfortunately it's caught between a rock and a hard place cos it relies on ads and therefore viewing figures.
 
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