Div 5/National League 2018/19

Discussion in 'football' started by orient slacker, Aug 2, 2018.

  1. orient slacker

    orient slacker Active Member

    Here we go again in Vanarama-Land, as it kicks off on Saturday.

    The teams and current odds on title-winners is here:

    National League Winner Betting Odds | Football

    Newly promoted Salford are the bookies favourites due to some eye-raising cash being splashed by the Class of 92 and their backer. Orient kick the season off up there with a lunchtime game on BT Sport, followed by a home game v similarly well-backed Ebbsfleet next Tuesday evening.

    We’ll hopefully be troubling the playoff spots this time round after an awkward last season when we effectively regrouped following 3 disastrous years ownership by Franco Becchetti. We’ve sold almost 4k of season tickets again, so along with Wrexham & relegated Chesterfield will be well supported at this level.

    But, as ever, it’s a tough league to call with its mixture of snooty ex-league teams moaning about 3G pitches , arriviste fulltimers doped by sugar daddies, well-managed non-league stalwarts and a rump of part-timers trying to hang on in there.
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  2. orient slacker

    orient slacker Active Member

    Orient get off to a statistician’s wet dream of a start: played two, two points, scored 2, conceded 2. But both were against fancied sides, and the draws were about right.

    4 teams off to a perfect 6 points start. Chesterfield also had a couple of challenging openers and came through. Early days, and everyone knows gaffer Martin Allen has a tendency to walk away as soon as he has a spat, but they could be the team to catch this season. I don’t expect relative pauper sides Halifax & Solihull Moors to be troubling the top spot too long. Gateshead - who lost loads of players in the close season & were only sold a week before the opener have surprised many by getting off to a flyer, including downing moneybags Salford last night.

    At the bottom, potless and pointless Daggers already look like they face a long, hard slog.
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  3. orient slacker

    orient slacker Active Member

    Virtually a quarter of the way into the season already, and after 11 matches Orient remain unbeaten and near the top, albeit with 5 draws in there. Put in-form Barnet to the sword in the 2nd half 3-1 yesterday after an even first 45.

    Up at table-topping Harrogate next week, who have got off to a flyer after promotion from the NLN, so one of the 2 remaining unbeaten records might give. Fan-owned Wrexham have started well too. Might this be the season their challenge to get back to the football league doesn’t peter out?

    Elsewhere, Chesterfield have hit the rocks after winning their first 3, moneybags Salford have got going finally and climbed the table, but the Kentish teams are either struggling or been inconsistent so far.

    Daggers have just found a new backer after the last one took his toys away in a huff following some beef with fans a year ago that gutted the club & threatened to kill them off, but they’ll do well to just steady the ship again and stay up this year.
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  4. orient slacker

    orient slacker Active Member

    20 games in and Orient go back to the top! Trouble is Salford & Wrexham are keeping pace, plus a surprising Solihull Moors aren’t far behind. The Wrexham gaffer is rumoured to be off to Shrewsbury, which might see a repeat of the disruption and falling away they experienced in last season’s run-in when their managerjumped ship. Our boss (Justin Edinburgh) seems to have ruled himself out of being enticed away to Wimbledon.

    Beyond the top 4 I can’t see any of the other clubs having ambitions beyond nabbing a playoff spot at best.

    We beat a plucky but limited Bromley side 3-1 yesterday. Sides like them that park the bus and work their socks off to disrupt us are sometimes our undoing, but a couple of great goals eventually saw us breach their defence and take control of the match.

    Elsewhere Chesterfield continue to bump along near the bottom - not won for 17 games now. Dover are propping the table up, which is a massive downturn from last season when they led the table at the same point.
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  5. belboid

    belboid TUC Off Your Knees

    Tragic to see Chesterfield doing so badly. They should never have built that new stadium, it's not done them any good.

    I wouldn't write off Harrogate or Fylde yet, either.
  6. orient slacker

    orient slacker Active Member

    And finally The Spireites bin off Martin Allen as gaffer. Surprised it didn’t happen sooner considering their dreadful run of only 1 win in the last 22 league games for the pre-season favourites, but a 4-0 pumping at home by Solihull Moors that’s dumped then back in the relegation places was the last straw.

    At the top, Orient were lacklustre & lost at improving Daggers on Boxing Day, whilst Wrexham spanked Salford 5-2 to cut the gap to 3 points with a game in hand.
  7. orient slacker

    orient slacker Active Member

    Splat! Orient lost 0-3 at home to promo rivals Salford on Saturday. The home stands were a sell out and we typically put in a dire performance. Wrexham also lost at home to bus-parking experts Dover. The top 3 were all inconsistent over Xmas/NY, but nobody else is making a move either - although Solihull are lurking still...
  8. belboid

    belboid TUC Off Your Knees

  9. orient slacker

    orient slacker Active Member

    Orient take a National League break this weekend from our recent indifferent form screwing up our auto-promotion hopes, for the quarter finals of the FA Trophy away to holders Brackley.

    The Trophy is down to 5 NL teams and 3 NL North sides. I’m not sure how seriously we’ll be taking it or whether we’ll continue the practice of resting most of our usual starting XI, but whoever we put out Brackley wont be pushovers.
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  10. orient slacker

    orient slacker Active Member

    The O’s march on in the Trophy after a 2-1 win at Brackley on Saturday. Reports were we were awful for an hour and lucky not to be at least 3 down, but the subs turned the game.

    So we’re still on the road to non-league finals day. The way things are going in E10, I wouldn’t put it past us to make 2 Wembley finals on consecutive weekends, and blow both of them. It’s the Orient way...

    Trophy semis are O’s v Telford and Fylde v Stockport or Maidstone.

    In the Vase, it’s Northwich Vics v Chertsey and Canterbury City v Cray Valley. Unusual for no Northern League teams not to feature.
  11. mx wcfc

    mx wcfc Well-Known Member

    I'd love to see you lot back in the league, after you were so badly fucked over. Had some good days down there with Reading. First ground I ever watched a game at with a beer (never was allowed at Elm Park). Best of luck in the Trophy and the league. Bugger Salford. :thumbs:
  12. orient slacker

    orient slacker Active Member

    Good weekend for Orient. Completed 3rd win on the bounce dispatching promo rivals Wrexham again (with a deflected shot in a cagey game) to go back top. Solihull lost. Fylde drew. Wahoo!

    Salford beat Moors to record their own 3 wins in a row after a rotten sequence saw them drop away, but they’re 5th, have played a game more than most, and it’ll require all the other top teams to implode for them to clamber back to 1st. Below them there’s only Harrogate, potless Gateshead, Eastleigh and crumbling Sutton with realistic playoff aspirations. 10 games to go for most of us.

    The bottom 4 is looking settled. Braintree, Maidstone, Aldershot - plus Havant & Waterloo, who might have a chance of escaping the drop but form suggests not. All Southern teams, which would require some regional rejigging at step 2.
  13. belboid

    belboid TUC Off Your Knees

    RIP North Ferrriby United

    Okay, they're weren't National League any more, but they were two seasons ago! A brilliant club to visit, getting to the away end involved wandering down a muddy track looking like it was heading to a school playing field. For a game away to Chester, they once took just two fans along with them. But, still.....on the occasions when they did have fans, they were always loud and amusing.

    Wound up for the sake of seven grand. A damned shame.

    Sad day as 2015 FA Trophy winners North Ferriby United are wound up
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  14. orient slacker

    orient slacker Active Member

    Orient haven’t played a NL game the for almost a fortnight, having successfully negotiated a Trophy semi instead to ensure our season will end at Wembley in the FAT final (along with Super-Kevin-Lisbie of Cray Valley Paper Mills who will feature in the Vase!). And due to other contenders screwing up, we’re still top of the League and now have games in hand too. Odds on to finish first now, but this is Orient we’re talking about and we have plenty of experience of not getting over the line.

    A big game Tuesday night at home to Fylde (who we’ll also face in that FAT final). Don’t lose and that’s them virtually out of the race for the auto-promo spot.

    Having not been League Champions since 1970 (Div 3), and never ever being finalists in a Wembley Cup Final, this season could end up being one to remember. For the right reasons, for once. Maybe this non-league malarky isn’t so bad after all...
  15. steeplejack

    steeplejack Reluctant Hardliner

    Dress rehearsals for cup finals (Orient-Fylde) are almost always damp squibs so I go for a dreary 1-1 draw. Fylde needed to dig deep to squeak past a very good Stockport side.

    I saw Orient during the Christmas time flat spot drawing 0-0 down at Dover and they didn't look championship material then...good to see them picking up strongly in the second half of the season.
  16. orient slacker

    orient slacker Active Member

    We actually dispatched Fylde quite impressively....

    ...But that was 4 games ago, and the wheels have come off at Orient since then. 2 points from the last 9 against mid-table opposition has seen us squander our advantage, and now Solihull and - ugh - Salford are right back in it for the race to top spot. Even Wrexham still have a chance of pipping us. We came back from 0-2 down at home to the Shaymen today, including a last gasp equalizer, but we’re not on top form and the games are running out. Crucial home game on Tues night v play-off hopefuls Eastleigh. If we don’t win that we’ll be hoping for others to cock up.
  17. The39thStep

    The39thStep Well-Known Member

    I honestly though that after dominating Fylde away in the first leg that Stockport would get to the final . Good news in the league is that they are neck and neck with Chorley although they let a 2 goal advantage slip into an away draw today .
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  18. agricola

    agricola a genuine importer of owls

    the meibion do not forget, or forgive
  19. steeplejack

    steeplejack Reluctant Hardliner

    Winning the league surely the priority. Absolutely huge game next weekend at Chorley.
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  20. orient slacker

    orient slacker Active Member

    Orient virtually home & hosed in the National League! Salford slipping up at home on Monday (thank you, Fylde) and us holding out at Solihull in an awful match means we have a 3 point cushion and a 5 goal difference advantage going into the final game. It will take a head-in-hands calamity of epic proportions for us to throw this away now...And we have the Trophy final to come as well.

    Having only being League Champions twice in our history, and never having won a proper national Cup final, this season in non-league has turned out pretty well for us, especially after the disastrous few years under Becchetti ownership. Still, champagne on ice until it’s confirmed for certain on Saturday at home to relegated Braintree.

    Down in NL North, pleased to see Stockport regain top spot after Chorley got beat on Monday. Hope they finish the job this weekend. They are far to big a club to be down at level 6 any longer, really.

    NL South is covered by the Hamlet sub-forum, but well done Torquay on bouncing back (and Hamlet for surviving both their on & off the pitch issues this year).
  21. JimW

    JimW 支那暗杀团

    Congrats! Just have this horrible vision of you going down 2-0 after a silly sending off then Salford's expensively assembled front line running riot.
  22. JimW

    JimW 支那暗杀团

    Salford couldn't get past Pools so well done champions Orient.
  23. orient slacker

    orient slacker Active Member

    Wrexham blow up in the playoffs again - did everything but score, woodwork twice, off the line twice, keeper made some good saves and a disallowed goal then concede an absolute worldie at the other end. Their fans must be starting to think they’ll never get back to the Football League.
  24. belboid

    belboid TUC Off Your Knees

    Salford v Fylde then. The latter will be getting used to Wembley by then.

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