districtline
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Donna Ferentes said:
or you could also say that "the circumstances of Mr de Menezes' assassination would not have taken place" without muslim extremism/terrorism.
Dismissing campaigns as "radical plots"
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or you could also say that "the circumstances of Mr de Menezes' assassination would not have taken place" without muslim extremism/terrorism.
Donna Ferentes
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You might indeed. Either way you'd be connecting an individual event to a wider issue and that seems perfectly reasonable to me.districtline said:
districtline
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Donna Ferentes said:
is that what the man's family does? or is it just a way for anti-war activists to exploit the man's death? most people seem to think the latter.
districtline
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laptop said:Most people who say "most people" are in a small minority
Sorry I accused you of sarcasm. I misoverestimated you.
there aren't exactly any mass demonstrations involved in this case. i wonder why...sarcasm? the thread developed.
Donna Ferentes said:
If a relative of mine was killed in similar circumstances, I'd want to know how and why they died, and I would want to ensure that whoever was responsible was held accountable. I wouldn't want a load of left-wingers getting involved to push their own agenda.
districtline
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STFC Loyal said:
exactly, the focus in this case should be on exactly what you mentioned, exploiting his death for an anti-war case just distracts attention away from what really matters here: the death of an innocent man.
Donna Ferentes
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So you might. And it's possible that the family here take a different view. Who the hell are you to tell them who should or should not be involved in their campaign?STFC Loyal said:
rebel warrior
Soca Warrior
Asad Rehman is
a) black
b) a Marxist
c) a Muslim
d) supports George Galloway
What a combination! All of the things the British establishment hate the most - all rolled into one person. That explains why Tories on here and Tories in the media are going mental about this.
Their vitriolic attacks and what Galloway calls 'putrid allegations' tell us more about them and their racism than the Jean Charles de Menezes family campaign for justice. In fact this is what the Establishment have done or tried to do with every justice case - so Imran Khan, who fought for justice for Steven Lawrence was an evil 'supporter of the Socialist Labour Party' etc etc.
Attacks like this have a long history - and show the Establishment is losing the argument about the police and Ian Blair. Lets move on people.
a) black
b) a Marxist
c) a Muslim
d) supports George Galloway
What a combination! All of the things the British establishment hate the most - all rolled into one person. That explains why Tories on here and Tories in the media are going mental about this.
Their vitriolic attacks and what Galloway calls 'putrid allegations' tell us more about them and their racism than the Jean Charles de Menezes family campaign for justice. In fact this is what the Establishment have done or tried to do with every justice case - so Imran Khan, who fought for justice for Steven Lawrence was an evil 'supporter of the Socialist Labour Party' etc etc.
Attacks like this have a long history - and show the Establishment is losing the argument about the police and Ian Blair. Lets move on people.
E) has shit politics
Donna Ferentes
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Quite. I don't believe he's ever managed to firebomb a single small shareholder.
districtline
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rebel warrior said:
has this person never read what marx wrote about religion?
das opium des volkes springs to mind.
Donna Ferentes
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"Confused" is right.
districtline
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Donna Ferentes said:
"Confused" is right.
being bitter again?
Donna Ferentes
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No, being sardonic.
districtline
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maybe you just don't understand the quote. it's german, you could use altavista.com to see the meaning in english.
or then again, someone supporting both reactionary islam and marxism at the same time may not be a contradiction to you.
or then again, someone supporting both reactionary islam and marxism at the same time may not be a contradiction to you.
Donna Ferentes said:
Why dont you go hang around outside the stock exchange and see if you can beg some change off your masters..... fool
But i have managed to do some pretty successful direct actions donna which im not going to discuss on line.
Donna Ferentes
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I think it's you missing a very obvious point, I'm afraid.districtline said:
districtline
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enlighten me, please.
Donna Ferentes
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Or "dominus illuminatio mea". Aha. Ahahaha.
districtline said:
We could question the states monopoly on violence and shoot one officer of the law for every person murdered by the state and ther lackeys.
Shoot to kill is not an issue its a fact and it must be confronted with force.
Donna Ferentes
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Anyway, enough of this levity. Your posting #43 makes a big deal of something which is entirely an assumption on your part.
Donna Ferentes said:
Medication time, medication time......
districtline
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Donna Ferentes said:
that his person hasn't read what marx wrote about religion? or that a "marxist" supports a reactionary religion?
Donna Ferentes
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That the gentleman is a religious believer.
districtline
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Donna Ferentes said:
i'm just glad he's not a marxist.
i might tae a sandwich down and catch a train from oop north its a shame it will be ecomic 'progress' that destroys it rather than anarchy 
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