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Dirty Pretty Things last night

:D :D :D

my sentiments exactly. the feathers shall not be ruffled in the slightest. It was the squaking of spanglechick and the rest of the coven that turned it into a bitchfest.

and i dont need a 'corporate whore' to start throwing in their tuppenceworth.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
Cheesypoof said:
and i dont need a 'corporate whore' to start throwing in their tuppenceworth.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

and I don't need a fictional puffed corn snack food item giving me opinions on stuff then bandying around playground insults like a ill-developed 8 year-old, but if you insist upon doing it on a public space, then you're gonna have to take a little differing opinion.

:)
 
Cheesypoof said:
the most fantastic moment on this thread is where Dubdiversion repeatedly bleats about me being a 'fraud.'

what a classic.:D :D


well, you are a fraud. You don't add up - if it's not your imminent demise through drug abuse, it's you having the most fantastic sex ever, or being a music journalist based on all the writing style of a sub-literate 11 year old.

I think you're full of shit, to be honest.
 
Cheesypoof said:
Well the Albion from my understanding is an old name for England, an England that celebrates the beautiful things about this country such as its gentry, romantic poetry, music and the countryside.

so what you are basically saying is that doherty is a cooler(?) version of John Major: "the country of long shadows on county [cricket] grounds, warm beer, invincible green suburbs, dog lovers and old maids bicycling to Holy Communion through the morning mist."
 
you know as much as cheeypoof is annoying and wrong and I think the libertines are shit, the way some people constantly bait cheesypoof in this and other threads is not exactly what you would call nice.

it looks like a load of big kids ganging up on one kid who is doing something different, just for their own entertainment.
 
hektik said:
so what you are basically saying is that doherty is a cooler(?) version of John Major: "the country of long shadows on county [cricket] grounds, warm beer, invincible green suburbs, dog lovers and old maids bicycling to Holy Communion through the morning mist."

its more of an appreciation of England and its rich cultural attributes, a sense of national pride for your country. An England inspired by Blake and the Kinks, village greens, knights and Monty Python - a vision of paradise that never quite materialised.

Basically a slap in the face to the cynics - see above sourpusses for examples x
 
Cheesypoof said:
its more of an appreciation of England and its rich cultural attributes, a sense of national pride for your country. An England inspired by Blake and the Kinks, village greens, knights and Monty Python - a vision of paradise that never quite materialised.

Basically a slap in the face to the cynics - see above sourpusses for examples x

Why are they cynics for not buying into that very limited attempt at a summing up of England?
 
Cheesypoof said:
its not summing it up, it is celebrating some of the things that are good.

what is your perception?


but with all your talk of heading towards Albion, you seem to be suggesting it's an endpoint towards which we should be working. Or have i got that wrong?
 
Dubversion said:
but with all your talk of heading towards Albion, you seem to be suggesting it's an endpoint towards which we should be working. Or have i got that wrong?

It isnt an endpoint and you are not wrong to make the assumption. I think the notion of Albion is more of an idyll they wanted to remind people of because it sometimes gets forgotten. There really isnt enough of a sense of national pride in this country, and I am saying that as an Irish person who has been living here for 7 years, I notice a lack of it. There is much to celebrate.;)
 
Cheesypoof said:
It isnt an endpoint and you are not wrong to make the assumption. I think the notion of Albion is more of an idyll they wanted to remind people of because it sometimes gets forgotten. There really isnt enough of a sense of national pride in this country, and I am saying that as an Irish person who has been living here for 7 years, I notice it. There is much to celebrate.;)


all a little dodgy, no? halcyon days of olde england, when it was all safe and nice and...

hmmm.
 
Spion said:
of what, exactly? That's a pretty broad question

What is your perception of the things that are good about England? I have told you what i reckon.

Dubversion - the view is indeed idealist and romantic and similar to the England loved by Blake and Keats and Coleridge, it's not wrong.
 
Dubversion said:
all a little dodgy, no? halcyon days of olde england, when it was all safe and nice and...

hmmm.

not necessarily dodgy really - just the world view of some poshie who's into old poetry. I'd find it hard to find musicians - or anyone else for that matter - who sum up my view of this country, nor would I really want to. (M E Smith comes close but crikey, who could live to that as a world view?)
 
Dubversion said:
all a little dodgy, no? halcyon days of olde england, when it was all safe and nice and...

hmmm.


I think you've put your finger on what it is I don't like about this Lazytines/Babyshandy/Drippy Potty Things franchise(cheap, but so am I :D )
Its essentially conservative music for conservative people dressed up in
radical chic (and a highly dubious version of radical at that)
What I find depressing about them is the complete lack of imagination and adventurism there AT ALL. Nothing new, nothing different.
While Petie D etc may have grabbed hold of the whole Albion schtick from Blake, they represent a complete failure to grasp Blakes worldview, that it was Imagination that is the engine that drives revolution, not violence, and certainly not nostalgia
 
brahaminda said:
I think you've put your finger on what it is I don't like about this Lazytines/Babyshandy/Drippy Potty Things franchise(cheap, but so am I :D )
Its essentially conservative music for conservative people dressed up in
radical chic (and a highly dubious version of radical at that)
What I find depressing about them is the complete lack of imagination and adventurism there AT ALL. Nothing new, nothing different.
While Petie D etc may have grabbed hold of the whole Albion schtick from Blake, they represent a complete failure to grasp Blakes worldview, that it was Imagination that is the engine that drives revolution, not violence, and certainly not nostalgia


excellent post!!! :)
 
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