Digital camera/pictures too dark

[GarfieldLeChat]

Cheers that was all I needed to know.

no i doubt it was, firstly you have recieved some excelent adivce here, you should try taking it with out getting huffy at people or snobish about your camera choice, or defnesive regarding it...

secondly try actually learning to use the piece of equipment you have to maximise it's potential, if you fail to do this then don't be suprised when your shots continue to be less than you want them to be...

finally when asking for help don't get the arse ache with people due to the lack of your own knowledge on a subject...

funny really you could do with learning that in other areas too...

 

[tobyjug]

As you'd already quoted this setting, I assumed you'd tried adjusting it to no effect (and I suspect others did the same). What was stopping you?

What was stopping me was the total lack of explanation in the manual which assumes prior knowledge of photography. It is also my wifes camera not mine. I have never owned a camera. I also have manual dexterity problems as part of my disability and as such I am reluctant to fiddle about with something as delicate as a digital camera.
I came into this forum to ask a question and I expected a helpful reply not a load of insulting shit. After a lot of shit I finally got an answer.

 

[atomik]

What was stopping me was the total lack of explanation in the manual which assumes prior knowledge of photography.

You say that as though it's unreasonable. It's not the job of a camera manufacturer to teach you about photography any more than it's the job of a car manufacturer to teach you how to drive. Would you complain if you bought a car and it didn't come with a manual explaining the purpose of gear changes?

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

What was stopping me was the total lack of explanation in the manual which assumes prior knowledge of photography. It is also my wifes camera not mine. I have never owned a camera. I also have manual dexterity problems as part of my disability and as such I am reluctant to fiddle about with something as delicate as a digital camera.
I came into this forum to ask a question and I expected a helpful reply not a load of insulting shit. After a lot of shit I finally got an answer.

ok firstly no one here is likely to know your personal situation if you are not capable of explaining we are not like to have some kind of physic ablitly to asses your particualr needs are we...

secondly your disablity has fuck all to do with the advice which has been given here and makes bugger all difference to your taking some shots and comparing the difference, the only cadence it would possibly have is if your dispbilty particularly prevent you from picking up the silver box sticking it near your eye and stopped you from presing the little button.....

so please for the love of all things reasonable don't use your fucking disablity as a badge of honour to display when you yourself neither explained yourself nor were reasonable when people tried to help you by asking speicfic questions it's insulting the wider disabled communtiy and it reduces you even further in peoples eyes for using such a creintious snivelling excuse...

wa wa i and arse but don't have a go cos i'm disabled ... the two are not connected and in no way relate, you think that becuase your disabled that excuses you from being reasonable ... WELL DO YOU....

as for the camera take the godam shots which will tell you about the conditions they are shot in then you can assess who to use your carmea which by it's design has limitations, how you can on oneside use the limitations of your disabltiy as an exucse because you are attempting to highlight that you are aware of them but cannot make yourself aware of the limitations of your camera is beyond rational thinking tbh...

 

[tobyjug]

You say that as though it's unreasonable. It's not the job of a camera manufacturer to teach you about photography any more than it's the job of a car manufacturer to teach you how to drive. Would you complain if you bought a car and it didn't come with a manual explaining the purpose of gear changes?

Given the sheer size of the CD manual I would have expected some explanation as to what any adjustment does and how to correct any faults with a picture.
The comparison with a car is not legitimate one, one cannot legally drive a car without having a licence.

 

[Corax]

What was stopping me was the total lack of explanation in the manual which assumes prior knowledge of photography. It is also my wifes camera not mine. I have never owned a camera. I also have manual dexterity problems as part of my disability and as such I am reluctant to fiddle about with something as delicate as a digital camera.
I came into this forum to ask a question and I expected a helpful reply not a load of insulting shit. After a lot of shit I finally got an answer.

You really are a frightful tit, aintcha?

Garf's already put it so well.


You're too fucking technically illiterate, stupid and/or lazy to read the manual or experiment yourself, and when Urban doesn't immediately leap to help you, you get a pinecone up your arse. My post was a civil and constructive one, but no, you have to get huffy.

You might be x years old, but you're a fucking child on this evidence. Grow the fuck up, you're getting tedious.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Given the sheer size of the CD manual I would have expected some explanation as to what any adjustment does and how to correct any faults with a picture.
The comparison with a car is not legitimate one, one cannot legally drive a car without having a licence.

you can buy a cr with out a licence though can't you....

why not stop your defencsice wank and your rude stance and also your insulting ooohh don't blame me for beign irate i'm a cripple defence act accept you over reacted to reasonable enquireies and take the bloody advice... for once in you life on these boards... jesus

 

[tobyjug]

you can buy a cr with out a licence though can't you....

why not stop your defencsice wank and your rude stance and also your insulting ooohh don't blame me for beign irate i'm a cripple defence act accept you over reacted to reasonable enquireies and take the bloody advice... for once in you life on these boards... jesus

I asked a perfectly legitimate simple question and got a load of shit. This is not what I expect in a specialist forum.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

I asked a perfectly legitimate simple question and got a load of shit. This is not what I expect in a specialist forum.

the shit you got was entirely of your own making there's absoultly nothing wrong with what has been suggested nor with the adivce given except you have choosen to take it as a slur on your camera choice...

YOU ARE THE ONE WITH THE ATTITUDE PROBLEM not the people who have responded to you... your actions your reactions your problem...

 

[Corax]

Lesson one: If everyone reacts to you the same way, it's you, not them.

(nice'un Garf. )

 

[tobyjug]

Lesson one: If everyone reacts to you the same way, it's you, not them.

(nice'un Garf. )

I only get such reactions from a small group of arrogant bastards on U75. I never have any problems elsewhere.

 

[alef]

Anyone for a glass of iced tea?

tobyjug, let us know if your pictures are coming out ok now.

 

[tobyjug]

Anyone for a glass of iced tea?

tobyjug, let us know if your pictures are coming out ok now.

I won't bother given some of the unhelpful showers of shit in here. Keep your forum to yourselves and don't help novices.

 

[alef]

I won't bother given some of the unhelpful showers of shit in here. Keep your forum to yourselves and don't help novices.

Whoa, don't make the mistake of lumping an entire crowd based on just a few members. Most people replying were offering you help. squelch is a bit hard to understand, but from what I can make out was trying to help you out. No comments on Garf or Corax.

Maybe this thread will just end up binned? Shame, usually this forum is fairly free of this kind of crap.

 

[Corax]

I never have any problems elsewhere.

Amongst your group of petite-bourgeoisie freemason self-righteous friends you mean? No, I''m sure they just bitch about what a nob you are behind your back instead.


And that reply to alef is COMPETELY out of order. He has (as ever) been nothing but polite and helpful. You twat.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

I only get such reactions from a small group of arrogant bastards on U75. I never have any problems elsewhere.

i might venture that you don't readly dismiss peoples advice which you have asked for out of hand in real life and thus you don't get the same reaction... then with out your reactive conceit you don't seek to actively alienate those whom you have asked help from and thus you don't get responses afterward which antagonise you by questioning your motiveation....

see if YOU are reasonable with people they are reasonable with you... can you see where you fucked up yet, you don't think that in people asking you what your camera was or advisign you of it's limitations and how to over come them were helpful then don't fucking ask...

we are not your idiot in a box advice forum ... I'm sure no one has any problem helping any one out regrading how to get better pictures in here, in fact i know it... what anyone one who is even half reasonable will have an issue with is being derided or sneered at or totally ignored when they proffer the help which has been asked for only to have it slapped away by your own actions...

your conciet is unbeleivable ...

regreatably i have met you type far to often, to quick to moan, full of self importance, have no understanding of the thing they are attempting to master and refuse point blank to listen to anyone else because they are speaking out of turn... you wanted help you got help a simple thank you and an apology for being a moody arse would suffice...

 

[Corax]

No comments on Garf or Corax.

Oh come on man...

This post:

As you'd already quoted this setting, I assumed you'd tried adjusting it to no effect (and I suspect others did the same). What was stopping you?

Play around with it Toby. You can't break it by changing settings, and you'll almost certainly discover a "reset to default" option somewhere if you bugger them up too much and can't work out what you've done.

Just play with it and snap away, it doesn't cost anything, you can delete the photos if they're crap. You'll almost certainly get better snaps like this, and you might even enjoy it, y'know?

Received this reply:

What was stopping me was the total lack of explanation in the manual which assumes prior knowledge of photography. It is also my wifes camera not mine. I have never owned a camera. I also have manual dexterity problems as part of my disability and as such I am reluctant to fiddle about with something as delicate as a digital camera.
I came into this forum to ask a question and I expected a helpful reply not a load of insulting shit. After a lot of shit I finally got an answer.

?

 

[sparkling]

<coughs politely> excuse me people but I'd like a digital camera but have little money and little technical sense. Any advice on which fool proof camera might suit me?

I've just got into bird watching and on ebay have seen binocular cameras...does anyone know if these are anygood?


<you can carry on with your row after this if you want>

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

<coughs politely> excuse me people but I'd like a digital camera but have little money and little technical sense. Any advice on which fool proof camera might suit me?

I've just got into bird watching and on ebay have seen binocular cameras...does anyone know if these are anygood?


<you can carry on with your row after this if you want>

what would you like to use it for ?

day shots night shots inside out side people animals print web etc what are your needs from the camera ?

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

No comments on Garf or Corax.

dude i was merely commenting that yet again toby has gotten the arse with people sturing up shit in a forum over nothing .... his continuoous bad tempered cnatackerious manner is not needed when asking for help, and gettign the arseache with people who are helping you is nto really the way to get more help...

 

[sparkling]

what would you like to use it for ?

day shots night shots inside out side people animals print web etc what are your needs from the camera ?

Nothing too brilliant really...I suppose happy family type shots but like I said I've recently got into bird watching and would like to be able to take some wildlife pics although I think thats more a long term aim.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Nothing too brilliant really...I suppose happy family type shots but like I said I've recently got into bird watching and would like to be able to take some wildlife pics although I think thats more a long term aim.

ok np what's your budget are you looking for new or just an ebay bargin type thing ?

 

[Corax]

Ey-up sparkles!

<coughs politely> excuse me people but I'd like a digital camera but have little money

The prices range massively - what kind of budget are you looking at?

I can only comment on my basic olympus point'n'shoot. Very user friendly and consistent (when on the highest resolution*), but very little in the way of manual control. Something in their range might suit.

*Toby, check your camera is set up on the highest resolution, it'll improve the picture quality of your shots no end. Or don't bother and just throw your toys out the pram again, I'm not bothered.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

sparkling are you still in london this seems like a good deal and should do much of what you want but it's a today only type thing

http://www.gumtree.com/london/89/2542989.html

in fect if you goto gumtrees camera section then you'll find lots of cheap digital cameras there the 300d at 340 is a bargin considering i spent £500 on mine but that's a proper digital slr http://www.gumtree.com/london/digital-cameras-for-sale_93_1.html

 

[Corax]

Nothing too brilliant really...I suppose happy family type shots but like I said I've recently got into bird watching and would like to be able to take some wildlife pics although I think thats more a long term aim.

Forget one like mine then. The digital zoom is pointless as all it really does is crop & expand the image, with no compensation in terms of resolution.

You need something with a decent optical zoom. Most cameras have this nowadays though, so it depends how close you want to get.

 

[sparkling]

Thanks Garf and Corax No am not in London and am off out in a mo to visit some bird sanctury in Hertfordshire.

I suppose because I really am a beginner I was thinking of around a £100 but am really not sure what that might get me or indeed what I need.
I've tried looking briefly at Corax's thread but it all looks very techny and you have to know what it all means. I need some help with the basics, Squelch's ideas on just taking photo's of anything but over and over again till you understand what your camera can do and how you can control it sort of appealed to me...it made sense so its sort of inspired me to have a go hence my request for advice.

So there you are a complete novice. Should I start a thread for photography for idiots do you think?

 

[jeff_leigh]

I've tried looking briefly at Corax's thread but it all looks very techny and you have to know what it all means. I need some help with the basics, Squelch's ideas on just taking photo's of anything but over and over again till you understand what your camera can do and how you can control it sort of appealed to me...it made sense so its sort of inspired me to have a go hence my request for advice.

So there you are a complete novice. Should I start a thread for photography for idiots do you think?

try this place has a good buying guide and learn section also the forums are more specialised http://www.dpreview.com/

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

thing is for a ton your not going to get much in fact your not going to get anything at all really which will give you good shots... and you'll fast be limited by it's capabilties as yours improve...

go for say one of the ones advertised on gumtree for example and you get second hand but better bang for your bucks you want an optical zoom you want as amny mega pixels as you can afford with as good a ccd as it can get theccd is the sensor which replaces the film the biger this is the better quaility the shot will be the higher the mega pixel rate the less bitty (it's called grain )the sharper the content will be.

 

[Corax]

Should I start a thread for photography for idiots do you think?

I'll join.

Honestly hun, I only picked up my camera a couple of weeks ago. I've learnt a lot from alef's "Submit a photo" thread. Have a look if you haven't already.

Cam suggestion...

...but bear in mind I don't know a lot about it, so I'd wait for others' comments...

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

no optical zoom it's better to buy summit you can grow into that summit which just suits your needs as you'll find you have more to snap or shoot once you get the thing than you first invisaged